The New Official "What do you look like" Thread

Originally posted by dadudemon
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Being offended by words from strangers always seemed weird to me. It's like people are going way out of their way to get offended.

I can understand being offended by words of friends, close coworkers*, family members, and loved ones. That's because you desire respect and acceptance from those people (usually). But strangers on the internet? That's just weird to get offended by them.

Make as many offensive jokes as you want. I don't care.

*People at my last job used to make fun of my religion all the time and we had good laughs about it. So I guess that's not true for everyone. 🙂

Edit - The modern equivalent of physically assaulting someone for saying words you didn't like is getting offended. Yesterday's punch in the face is today's, "Wah? Well! That's offensive! How dare you!" To me, the Political Correctness people feel the same to me as overly macho people that used to punch people for saying things they didn't like: I get the same vibe. Feels territorial, insecure, etc.

See, that's the issue, you are just looking at it from your perspective. You are fine with it, so **** everyone else.

Why intentionally take the risk of upsetting people, feels sorta like the thing Jesus wouldn't have done.

I just find it weird when straight white males take it upon themselves to be offended for everybody in the world. I'm pretty sure SWMs are more likely to be offended than those the joke is about. Probably all that white male guilt built up from all that oppression business that goes on.

I have never been offended by a joke. I think I got my ****ed up humour from Daniel tosh

Originally posted by Scribble
I just find it weird when straight white males take it upon themselves to be offended for everybody in the world. I'm pretty sure SWMs are more likely to be offended than those the joke is about. Probably all that white male guilt built up from all that oppression business that goes on.

See, now I have to reiterate again for the second time. I've not been offended, I've been saying that it is well known that it does upset some people, so why take the risk, when we could also just try to be better people (not because others want us to be, but because we want to be)

Originally posted by Bardock42
See, now I have to reiterate again for the second time. I've not been offended, I've been saying that it is well known that it does upset some people, so why take the risk, when we could also just try to be better people (not because others want us to be, but because we want to be)

Now would all butt hurt people please go to the exit on the left

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's nice for you that you are not offended.

You are aware that it does upset other people though, right? And you lose virtually nothing by just not making a joke about it, so why even do it? I mean, I've been there, I was one of those "how dare society tell me what to say!!!" people, but that's not really what it is about, it's about choosing to censor oneself to make other people a tiny bit less miserable.

No one's actually stopping anyone from saying anything and no one's a cool rebel by making extreme and hurtful jokes, really, even though it's nice to feel that way.

Originally posted by Spawningpool
Because this is the goddamn internet and it's the worlds most ****ed up place

There's a reason why I'm not addressing this to you. It's pretty obvious you are currently a lost cause. Genesis-soldier on the other hand seems like a smart guy who does try to be a good person, so trying to convince him of what I consider a better approach seems at least possible.

I don't think censoring oneself is the best way of making ourselves better people. I treat all people with respect, I think that's far more important, really.

Originally posted by Scribble
I like all your assumptions that I feel "cool" making distasteful jokes. Pretty funny. Don't know if you've noticed from up on that horse that I don't really make jokes like that. I'm just saying that I disagree with marginalising someone because you, the unoppressed, is offended because someone might get offended. It's... silly, really. But you know, if it makes you feel like you're making a difference, keep at it and good work.

Yikes, hit a nerve.

It wasn't addressed at you specifically though, but the mindset of many who do make these jokes.

Originally posted by Scribble
I don't think censoring oneself is the best way of making ourselves better people. I treat all people with respect, I think that's far more important, really.

I would agree that it's not the most important or best way, but respect on one's own terms may not be what others consider respect. A lot of very disrespectful people think they are respectful.

Originally posted by Bardock42
See, that's the issue, you are just looking at it from your perspective. You are fine with it, so **** everyone else.

It feels like you're applying my perspective to everyone else when my perspective is not everyone else's. I can have an opinion on other opinions but that opinion is my opinion, clearly not theirs. I can't help how I feel about people who get grossly offended by words from strangers on the internet. That's just how I feel. To me, it feels odd, uncomfortable, and those people kind of creep me out a bit. Like...why do they get so upset over things like that? Mental illness?

Perhaps. You made a good case for why a mother, who just lost a child, may get upset. And she would have every right to suffer from one or more mental illnesses.

Just the same as you believe it is okay for people to get offended by words from a stranger, it is okay for me to think that is weird. You have to apply your kindness and acceptance to all people, not just those that overtly agree with you.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why intentionally take the risk of upsetting people?

What if a person is not intentionally taking the risk of upsetting people and, instead, intentionally trying to make people laugh at absurd dark humor?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yikes, hit a nerve.

It wasn't addressed at you specifically though, but the mindset of many who do make these jokes.

To paraphrase my overall point: you're coming across as a pompous arse right now. I respect you, B, and agree with you often. But you're coming across as a holier than though liberal stereotype at the moment.

Originally posted by Bardock42
There's a reason why I'm not addressing this to you. It's pretty obvious you are currently a lost cause. Genesis-soldier on the other hand seems like a smart guy who does try to be a good person, so trying to convince him of what I consider a better approach seems at least possible.

Originally posted by Scribble
To paraphrase my overall point: you're coming across as a pompous arse right now. I respect you, B, and agree with you often. But you're coming across as a holier than though liberal stereotype at the moment.

That's a good summary. But Bardock42 stops just short of being an annoying Social Justice Warrior. Notice that he never once said to stop, but only suggested it may not be a good idea. 🙂

And he probably thinks, "You're coming off as an insensitive assh*le who thinks the world should bow down to your right to say whatever the f*ck you want, whenever you want."

Originally posted by dadudemon
It feels like you're applying my perspective to everyone else when my perspective is not everyone else's. I can have an opinion on other opinions but that opinion is my opinion, clearly not theirs. I can't help how I feel about people who get grossly offended by words from strangers on the internet. That's just how I feel. To me, it feels odd, uncomfortable, and those people kind of creep me out a bit. Like...why do they get so upset over things like that? Mental illness?

Perhaps. You made a good case for why a mother, who just lost a child, may get upset. And she would have every right to suffer from one or more mental illnesses.

Just the same as you believe it is okay for people to get offended by words from a stranger, it is okay for me to think that is weird. You have to apply your kindness and acceptance to all people, not just those that overtly agree with you.

I don't think that's the case, I feel like I can draw the line the same way basically anyone else draws a line. And while I feel bad for you that you are creeped out by people who get upset at things, I value the feelings of those in grief or somehow oppressed more in this consideration.

Originally posted by dadudemon

What if a person is not intentionally taking the risk of upsetting people and, instead, intentionally trying to make people laugh at absurd dark humor?

Then they are not aware that they may be upsetting people and it is good to point it out to them so they can make an informed decision. Because if they are aware of it, then they are intentionally taking the risk.

Lol I guess the GDF is getting boring.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't think that's the case, I feel like I can draw the line the same way basically anyone else draws a line. And while I feel bad for you that you are creeped out by people who get upset at things, I value the feelings of those in grief or somehow oppressed more in this consideration.

That's an odd way to word my perspective. My perspective is better worded as thus, "I get an uncomfortable/creepy vibe from people that go out of their way to get angry, upset, and/or offended by strangers on the internet."

Originally posted by Bardock42
Then they are not aware that they may be upsetting people and it is good to point it out to them so they can make an informed decision. Because if they are aware of it, then they are intentionally taking the risk.

They can be aware of it but not make that consideration when deciding to make the joke. Drawing attention to the notion that someone would get offended by a low-brow joke, is the stuff of captain obvious legends. It wouldn't be a low-brow joke if no one could get upset by it. But not everyone on the internet is a 45 year old, ultra conservative, Christian. That type of person may not even post on KMC much less in the Members Picture Thread.

Originally posted by Scribble
No, you didn't hit a nerve, don't pat yourself on the back just yet good sir. I find it impossible to get genuinely annoyed by stuff people say on the Internet.

To paraphrase my overall point: you're coming across as a pompous arse right now. I respect you, B, and agree with you often. But you're coming across as a holier than though liberal stereotype at the moment.

That's good, I get annoyed at things on the internet all the time, usually politics.

And very well, I suppose I can't help that, but I don't think I am better than anyone, I struggle with being a better person for myself just like everyone else.

At any rate, an argument could be made that everyone who argues to convince someone else of their opinion, must think that, at the very least, they are better regarding the topic of discussion, no?

Originally posted by Stringer
Lol I guess the GDF is getting boring.

Yup. Full of people complaining about everyone else's political opinions.