allow me to draft up a likely scenario
(the trio walk to palpatine's office with grevous holding the others in handcuffs)
GG: i have the prisoners my chancellor
DS: great
GG: shall i execute them?
DS: no! Ill do it myself! (puts hands forth for force choke)
GG: now! (pulls out blaster and fires a shot to distract siddious)
( qui gon and obi wan un handcuff themselves with thier sabers)
(they jump into a triangle around siddious)
DS: no, you will die!!! (attempts force lighting and gets it absorbed by kenobi's saber)
(qui-gon leads a miserably failed first attack whereupon after the short duel, siddious shocks him into the wall like he did yoda)
(grevous duels hin and destroys siddious's saber then destroys siddous)
( kenobi force pushes him out the window before the intergalactic FBI arrive)
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Exactly, Grievous would pwn Suidious if he can't use the Force. Sidious could barely handle Yoda, imagine Grievous.
Uhmm, Yoda is better with Sabers then GG, as is Sidious.
But in this fight, Sidious against the trio, Sidious wins, Grievous is no threat at all, he has no defence to Force attacks, before anyone says, he dodged Force attacks before, he only dodged Force Push, he cant dodge Crush, Choke... and this is Sidious, the strongest Sith Lord ever, not an average Jedi, Grievous is used to fighting. Then its Sidious against Kenobi and Jinn. Dooku got rid of Kenobi, while fending of Anakin, so Sidious, who is stronger then Dooku and Jinn, who is weaker then Anakin, will have no problem, defeating the remaining duo, but mostly because of his Force powers.
Let's see Dooku could not defeat Yoda multiple times in saber combat. Dooku trains Grievous and it is clear he has more skill than Grievous> Dooku tells Greivous not to face Yoda. And Yoda and Sidious stalemated in the saber portion of their duelSo remind me how Grievous>Sidious in sabers
Individually they all would lose Qui-gon is outclassed here by a very big margin and what is to stop Sidious from killing him in seconds like he did to 3 of the jedi sent to kill him,Grievous has no force defence toa crush or choke,Sidious is better than him in saber combat and Yoda tells Kenobi he is no match for the emperor. Plus it has been about like 13 years since Sidious last touched the light saber. Sidious takes this.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
In a saber duel, sure Sidious has more skill but w/o the force he would be overwhelmed. Greivous is to fast.
So you are saying without the force to aid him in a duel even a pure lightsaber duel he would lose. Because than any force use would probably lose because they all use the force in a duel even without them using any attacks like choke,lightning,etc. In pure saber duels the force is used for speed and strength(and maybe acrobatics) nothing else. So Sidious is still better a saber duelist than Grievous.