Heaven/Afterlife, what's the point?

If you believe in a Heaven/Afterlife what's the point of it?

What's purpose does your existence serve there?

there is no point. Its nothing.

Originally posted by Regret
If you believe in a Heaven/Afterlife what's the point of it?

What's purpose does your existence serve there?

You mean you don't know bruddah? The Word (i.e., Bible) says that in the presence of the Lord is "fullness of joy." The apostle Paul said that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord...which is far better. In other words we were created to walk with God and have fellowship with Him, not live on earth while He lives in Heaven. God will create a new earth but this time God's throne will be headquartered "here" on earth so that He can be close to His sons and daughters. I can't wait!

I cant wait either. Actually, could you leave now and send me a postcard from hell?

Originally posted by Alliance
I cant wait either. Actually, could you leave now and send me a postcard from hell?

Yes, I was wondering if JIA was giving us a suicide threat. 😱

I plead the 5th...and....yes, I'm a US citizen on US soil.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You mean you don't know bruddah? The Word (i.e., Bible) says that in the presence of the Lord is "fullness of joy." The apostle Paul said that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord...which is far better. In other words we were created to walk with God and have fellowship with Him, not live on earth while He lives in Heaven. God will create a new earth but this time God's throne will be headquartered "here" on earth so that He can be close to His sons and daughters. I can't wait!

I know what I believe.

I also know various other people's beliefs. Among Christians the idea of afterlife/Heaven is not cut and dry, let alone people that are not Christian.

Here are some things that turn me off of some people's Heaven:

1 I will not go to some heaven where the point is to only sing praises to God. I don't respect that God enough to do it.

2 I will not go to a heaven where you sit around doing nothing, but be in bliss. Can you say boring.

3 I will not go to an afterlife where repetition of this life occurs. Eventually the whole point would become a way to end one boredom for another.

I would rather hell to many Christian's perspective on heaven, your description may be one of those. I am curious as to various individuals takes on it, as I am curious if there are perspectives that sound interesting.

Originally posted by Regret
I know what I believe.

I also know various other people's beliefs. Among Christians the idea of afterlife/Heaven is not cut and dry, let alone people that are not Christian.

Here are some things that turn me off of some people's Heaven:

1 I will not go to some heaven where the point is to only sing praises to God. I don't respect that God enough to do it.

2 I will not go to a heaven where you sit around doing nothing, but be in bliss. Can you say boring.

3 I will not go to an afterlife where repetition of this life occurs. Eventually the whole point would become a way to end one boredom for another.

I would rather hell to many Christian's perspective on heaven, your description may be one of those. I am curious as to various individuals takes on it, as I am curious if there are perspectives that sound interesting.

Regret, are you saved? If so, why do you believe that you are?

Please don't tell him.

Just say that you are actually a radioative opossum that somehow learned to type and converted to mormonism.

Or just tell him that you're a born again Mormon.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Regret, are you saved? If so, why do you believe that you are?

Lol, JIA I am not interested in whether or not I am saved. I don't believe that anyone that focuses on being saved is saved. That is for the proud, self-indulgent, self-obsessed, selfish people to care about. All I care about is trying to help other people be better people.

My answer is that I don't know. I believe I live in a manner that is good and in keeping with the teachings of Christ. I may be, but I wouldn't make the judgement, that is Christ's call, me making it would probably lead to pride and inaction. I'd probably come across as a self-righteous bag of crap if I claimed it.

Besides I'm actually a radioactive opossum that somehow learned to type and converted to Mormonism.

And my being saved isn't why I started this thread, it was curiosity about what others think.

Originally posted by Regret
Lol, JIA I am not interested in whether or not I am saved. I don't believe that anyone that focuses on saving themselves is saved. That is for the proud, self-indulgent, self-obsessed, selfish people to care about. All I care about is trying to help other people be better people.

My answer is that I don't know. I believe I live in a manner that is good and in keeping with the teachings of Christ. I may be, but I wouldn't make the judgement, that is Christ's call, me making it would probably lead to pride and inaction. I'd probably come across as a self-righteous bag of crap if I claimed it.

Besides I'm actually a radioactive opossum that somehow learned to type and converted to Mormonism.

And my being saved isn't why I started this thread, it was curiosity about what others think.

That is not what they Bible says. The Bible says that you (me, and anyone else that wants to get in on the action) can know.

Read:

1 John 5:13
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

Did you catch that? He said that you may know that you have eternal life (i.e., salvation). You don't have to wonder about aimlessly or in a desultory manner about your salvation if you are truly trusting in Jesus and not your religion or some tradition. You are a Church of Latter Day Saints adherent correct?

I never said anything about you or anyone else saving themselves. You couldn't save yourself if you wanted to that is why God the Father sent Jesus.

😆

I thought to myself..."damn, Regret didn't take any of my stupid ideas and actually used logical ones."

and then i went "HAH!...Oh wait, he didn't."

But good call. I'd like to se how he responds. I'm sure I'll be dissappointed.

{edit} yup. Dissappointing.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I never said anything about you or anyone else saving themselves. You couldn't save yourself if you wanted to that is why God the Father sent Jesus.

Lol, I didn't say anything about me saving myself either.

I edited and fixed my typo in the earlier post

Originally posted by Regret
Lol, I didn't say anything about me saving myself either.

I edited and fixed my typo in the earlier post

Aiiight.

Regret, you managed to shut him up?

Can we get this man a drink? 🍺

😛
cheers

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You mean you don't know bruddah? The Word (i.e., Bible) says that in the presence of the Lord is "fullness of joy." The apostle Paul said that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord...which is far better. In other words we were created to walk with God and have fellowship with Him, not live on earth while He lives in Heaven. God will create a new earth but this time God's throne will be headquartered "here" on earth so that He can be close to His sons and daughters. I can't wait!

do you have to be "walking with God" at the time when he creates this "new earth" in order to get a good spot by the river or wherever

given that christianity doesn't warrant reincarnation then you wont be getting out of heaven anyway...God will just leave you there...take that in the face dead christians

essentially god will wait for everyone to die...wait til heaven is jam packed full of people and think "**** this for a laugh...it's gettin a bit crowded in here...i'm off"

😆

Then he'll vacation to Florida and have margaritias with the athiests.

Originally posted by jaden101
do you have to be "walking with God" at the time when he creates this "new earth" in order to get a good spot by the river or wherever

given that christianity doesn't warrant reincarnation then you wont be getting out of heaven anyway...God will just leave you there...take that in the face dead christians

essentially god will wait for everyone to die...wait til heaven is jam packed full of people and think "**** this for a laugh...it's gettin a bit crowded in here...i'm off"

😆

You got my side crackin'. You should do stand up. No you shouldn't. And ya'll thought ole' JesusIsAlive didn't have a sense of humor.