Heaven/Afterlife, what's the point?

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
Do we get super Angel powers when we die?

If Angel powers are rot, mold, and an increasing number of fluid filled holes....and pushing up daisies...

yes.

that's not for me to know in this lifetime.

if you can never know...how do you know there is something to know.

Originally posted by Alliance
If Angel powers are rot, mold, and an increasing number of fluid filled holes....and pushing up daisies...

yes.

Don't forget being a delicious worm-feast!

Yums.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You got my side crackin'. You should do stand up. No you shouldn't. And ya'll thought ole' JesusIsAlive didn't have a sense of humor.

On a side note, how old are you really?

Interesting Question.

Originally posted by Alliance
if you can never know...how do you know there is something to know.

how do you know there is nothing to know?

Why do you magically assume that there is?

It is likely that there is nothing to know. Extraordinary things don't happen. Do you assume that I'm some eccentric billionare, or some schmuck with a computer?

Originally posted by Regret
If you believe in a Heaven/Afterlife what's the point of it?

What's purpose does your existence serve there?

Originally posted by Regret
Lol, JIA I am not interested in whether or not I am saved. I don't believe that anyone that focuses on being saved is saved. That is for the proud, self-indulgent, self-obsessed, selfish people to care about. All I care about is trying to help other people be better people.

Then You're a really smart and really kind hearted person.

Originally posted by Regret
My answer is that I don't know. I believe I live in a manner that is good and in keeping with the teachings of Christ. I may be, but I wouldn't make the judgement, that is Christ's call, me making it would probably lead to pride and inaction. I'd probably come across as a self-righteous bag of crap if I claimed it.

Atleast you're not a hypocrit...

Originally posted by Regret
Besides I'm actually a radioactive opossum that somehow learned to type and converted to Mormonism.

😆

Originally posted by Regret
And my being saved isn't why I started this thread, it was curiosity about what others think.

JIA may condemn your "curiosity" but I admire it. I think any Afterlife would have just as much point as the life we have now...what's the point to existing in the first place?

Maybe there doesn't have to be a point...whether our afterlife includes Heaven, Hell, reincarnation, Nirvana, Hades, dreamworld, or whatever...if they exist, then we don't really have the choice in the matter of where we end up....we don't send our souls anywhere...we don't even know if we have souls.

The only thing I can base on religious logic is that we choose what we do and how we live in this life, and then a superior force determines where we go afterward...i dont beleive you could ever voluntarily send yourself anywhere when we truly have no power over it.

What makes the most sense to me is Reincarnation...energy cannot be destroyed, so i doubt that we become nothing when we die...at the same time, i dont buy "Heaven and Hell" since there have been other mythologies with those ideas way before the mainstream religions...

I just hope that wherever I end up, I'm there with the people I love...and that i also get to meet new people.

What upsets me about Reincarnation is the possibility that in the next life, you may not see your current family members again...like you have to start all over or something. 🙁

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You got my side crackin'. You should do stand up. No you shouldn't. And ya'll thought ole' JesusIsAlive didn't have a sense of humor.

That's not true. I think you are the most hilarious person on these forums ✅

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Then You're a really smart and really kind hearted person.

Atleast you're not a hypocrit...

😆

JIA may condemn your "curiosity" but I admire it.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I think any Afterlife would have just as much point as the life we have now...what's the point to existing in the first place?

I agree totally with this concept. I believe that an afterlife has the same purpose/point that this life does.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Maybe there doesn't have to be a point...whether our afterlife includes Heaven, Hell, reincarnation, Nirvana, Hades, dreamworld, or whatever...if they exist, then we don't really have the choice in the matter of where we end up....we don't send our souls anywhere...we don't even know if we have souls.

The only thing I can base on religious logic is that we choose what we do and how we live in this life, and then a superior force determines where we go afterward...i dont beleive you could ever voluntarily send yourself anywhere when we truly have no power over it.

What makes the most sense to me is Reincarnation...energy cannot be destroyed, so i doubt that we become nothing when we die...at the same time, i dont buy "Heaven and Hell" since there have been other mythologies with those ideas way before the mainstream religions...

I just hope that wherever I end up, I'm there with the people I love...and that i also get to meet new people.

What upsets me about Reincarnation is the possibility that in the next life, you may not see your current family members again...like you have to start all over or something. 🙁

That makes sense.

I do not like the idea of reincarnation, myself. The reason I dislike it is that I do not remember any previous lives. Without memory being continued, there is nothing to be gained from reincarnating imo.

What IF reincarnation is true?.......how would that change you life?

Originally posted by debbiejo
What IF reincarnation is true?.......how would that change you life?

It depends on which type of reincarnation. If it is the Hindi view I would better my life and try to make it to a level of reincarnation closer to Brahman. I am unsure as to the aspects of other versions. If we merely reincarnate, then I wouldn't change anything, there is no point, unless of course memory continues from incarnation to incarnation.

Well we all know know through science that energy (which is what we are made of through go) cannot be destroyed............and we do know that hell is not a real place..............(much documentation on it), then what is our choice?..................we go back as the bible said the spirit returns to where it came from which is from the Source of it all.

Originally posted by Regret
I know what I believe.

I also know various other people's beliefs. Among Christians the idea of afterlife/Heaven is not cut and dry, let alone people that are not Christian.

Here are some things that turn me off of some people's Heaven:

1 I will not go to some heaven where the point is to only sing praises to God. I don't respect that God enough to do it.

2 I will not go to a heaven where you sit around doing nothing, but be in bliss. Can you say boring.

3 I will not go to an afterlife where repetition of this life occurs. Eventually the whole point would become a way to end one boredom for another.

I would rather hell to many Christian's perspective on heaven, your description may be one of those. I am curious as to various individuals takes on it, as I am curious if there are perspectives that sound interesting.

blah blah blah...yeah, you hate God. We get the point.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
blah blah blah...yeah, you hate God. We get the point.

No, I do not respect the God of the Heaven I mentioned in my post that was quoted. That Heaven is not a place I would like to be, it does not follow that I hate that God, I would merely prefer Hell to that type of Heaven.

Originally posted by Regret
Thanks.

Just saying it like it is... 😉

Originally posted by Regret
I agree totally with this concept. I believe that an afterlife has the same purpose/point that this life does.

Yes...it would either have the same point that this life does, Or have no point at all like this life may not....

Originally posted by Regret
That makes sense.

I'm glad you think so. 🙂

Originally posted by Regret
I do not like the idea of reincarnation, myself. The reason I dislike it is that I do not remember any previous lives. Without memory being continued, there is nothing to be gained from reincarnating imo.

I sort of beleive that if Reincarnation is indeed true, then much of what we learn stays with us from one life to another.

Do you ever beleive that Morality can be intuitive, and not just subjective or taught ? If so, it may be possible that the morals you hold true to yourself, that did not spawn from your religion, could come from lessons you may have learned in a previous life.

I think if Reincarnation is true, then we are not supposed to remember our past lives, because then we could not focus on this one...we would be too caught up with what we didn't finish in our past lives....u know...broken heart, failed relationships, dead relatives, etc.

But if Reincarnation is true, then what I don't like about it is you may not see your current mother, father, lover, etc. in the next life, and that's heartbreaking. 🙁

If energy cannot be destroyed, then where do we go?