Once again with the A>B>C logic... Anmd Rugal didn't usemuch of his Orochi power mind you, otherwise he would have self detonated then and there...
the way i see it:
getting charblasted miles high and far and surviving without a scratch>>surving a blast but being badly injured and losing right arm>>falling from a building and dying.
Hachi clearly shows more endurance there and since it was a little bit of Orochi POWER that saved Omega Rugal from the blast then old thongman is clearly stronger than Rugal since he used his own power and endurance to survive it all.
O.Rugal is clearly stronger than Geese. Why? Geese was pwned by single Terry in one-on-one match. Rugal was able to take on an entire cast of KoF95 (including Terry) and was still winning.
~The Invincible Sado-sama
Originally posted by Sado22
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my highness likes A>B>C logic as long as it makes sense.
according to "unreliable" Lantis (and other sources mind you), Rugal became Omega Rugal at the point when he used the Orochi power to survive the blast. so technically speaking he became Omega Rugal but was still unable to survive the blast in one piece.
Hachi on the other hand survived a blast that was a lot bigger (emperor actually thought it was a nuke for the longest time) and though he was smacked miles away and literally sky high (you clearly see him above the clouds) he survived in one piece and even returns a few days later in Tekken5. Geese, even as a got-my-@ss-handed-to-me godtier was still killed off from the fall from Geese tower in FFRB.
Geese tower isn't above clouds now is it, darko?
He wasn't using the whole lot... thats my point, you said he had to go all outto survive that explosion, I contested that. The only thing Rugal lost was a hand, and he remained concious cognitive and capable, unlike the comatosed Heihachi who layed buried for 3 weeks... Not a few days... And no Sado, Heihachi was coered from head to toe in cratches and bruises... I made no mention of Geese... And how do you know Geese is actually dead?, or for that matter died from the fall... Remember,Geese hitsomething much harder than dirt. or he couldhave hit something else, like apassing vehicle orlanded awkwardly... There'sanumberofpossabilities that are simply unconfirmed.
Originally posted by Sado22
the way i see it:
getting charblasted miles high and far and surviving without a scratch>>surving a blast but being badly injured and losing right arm>>falling from a building and dying.
Hachi clearly shows more endurance there and since it was a little bit of Orochi POWER that saved Omega Rugal from the blast then old thongman is clearly stronger than Rugal since he used his own power and endurance to survive it all.
Barely, he wascomatosedunderground for 3 weeks... stop overhyping.
Originally posted by Sado22
O.Rugal is clearly stronger than Geese. Why? Geese was pwned by single Terry in one-on-one match. Rugal was able to take on an entire cast of KoF95 (including Terry) and was still winning.~The Invincible Sado-sama
I didn't contest this......
heh, your keyboard is still f'ed up huh? 😄
He wasn't using the whole lot... thats my point, you said he had to go all outto survive that explosion, I contested that. The only thing Rugal lost was a hand, and he remained concious cognitive and capable, unlike the comatosed Heihachi who layed buried for 3 weeks... Not a few days... And no Sado, Heihachi was coered from head to toe in cratches and bruises... I made no mention of Geese... And how do you know Geese is actually dead?, or for that matter died from the fall... Remember,Geese hitsomething much harder than dirt. or he couldhave hit something else, like apassing vehicle orlanded awkwardly... There'sanumberofpossabilities that are simply unconfirmed
Rugal wasn't conscious at all. He was badly wounded and even lost his whole hand. SNK never actually saws whether or not he was unconscious or not but good guess is since that explosion pwned him badly and blew off his hand......yeah he was out too.
Heihachi was covered in dust. there was not a trace of blood on him. Neither was there any blood on him when he was asstossed by Kazy off the cliff. don't believe me?
Tekken5DR intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avdYdsA_BkM
Tekken5 hachi resurrection: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n79SQhgYsZI
tekken 2 intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVFnXKpiH5M
so...see any blood? only thing covering Hachi is dirt. period.
Barely, he wascomatosedunderground for 3 weeks... stop overhyping.
I didn't contest this......
~The Invincible Sado-sama
Originally posted by Sado22
Rugal wasn't conscious at all. He was badly wounded and even lost his whole hand. SNK never actually saws whether or not he was unconscious or not but good guess is since that explosion pwned him badly and blew off his hand......yeah he was out too.
He ONLY lost his hand, he wasalready injured from the fight with Kusanagi & co. And nowhere doesit say that he was unconcious.
Originally posted by Sado22
Heihachi was covered in dust. there was not a trace of blood on him. Neither was there any blood on him when he was asstossed by Kazy off the cliff. don't believe me?Tekken5DR intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avdYdsA_BkM
Tekken5 hachi resurrection: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n79SQhgYsZI
tekken 2 intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVFnXKpiH5M
so...see any blood? only thing covering Hachi is dirt. period.
Sorry, the X shaped scar was caused from Kaz tossing him off the cliff. And since he was burried for 3 weeks, we don't really know if he was bleeding or not, but I can assure you it wasn't just dirt,it was also burns
Originally posted by Sado22
still in one piece. and your talking like Rugal wasn't.
also hachi would later mock that explosion and call it puny. Rugal could never say that cuz he lost his whole right forearm to it. tells a lot.
Accept it.
Thats bullshit, the black noah explosion was way bigger, mostly because an Aircraft Carrier requires... a little something called a nuclear reactor to function, whereas a Jack has no hope of carrying that much fission material, even the Kamikaze ones
He ONLY lost his hand, he wasalready injured from the fight with Kusanagi & co. And nowhere doesit say that he was unconcious.
Sorry, the X shaped scar was caused from Kaz tossing him off the cliff. And since he was burried for 3 weeks, we don't really know if he was bleeding or not, but I can assure you it wasn't just dirt,it was also burns
Thats bullshit, the black noah explosion was way bigger, mostly because an Aircraft Carrier requires... a little something called a nuclear reactor to function, whereas a Jack has no hope of carrying that much fission material, even the Kamikaze ones
~The Invincible Sado-sama
Originally posted by Sado22
like i said, SNK never said he was laid out. but its a safe bet that he did since his whole right forearm was ripped to shreds. since you like to get all technical over a videogame, how about blood less and the whole trauma of having something blow in your face and watch your whole arm get blown off. and he suffered from other injuries too.
No he didn't, the only other injury he ever sustained was his eye, and that was from Goenitz, plus it's asure bet that he remained concious, otherwise he would have drowned, the only reason he lost his hand was because he didn't use his Orochi powers to their fullest extent, it was the first time he ever used them.
Originally posted by Sado22
hachi had that scar even in Tekken1. so no....
he had a whole explosion blow him sky high so cut him some slack. and we are talking only of blood...not burns. Rugal must have been fried too. AGAIN he blew his whole arm off so i'm guessing he got done at least rare or medium if not well done.
No he didn't... they first appeared in Tekken 2, after Kaz dropped him... And again, Rugal wasn't blown away by the Blacknoah blast, he withstood the shockwave and thats a damn good feat considering he never used the Orochi power before.
Originally posted by Sado22
and who said the whole carrier blew up entirely. Honmaru on the other hand was.~The Invincible Sado-sama
Watch the animation Sado, the whole ship went up, there wasn't enough peices left to sink...
No he didn't, the only other injury he ever sustained was his eye, and that was from Goenitz, plus it's asure bet that he remained concious, otherwise he would have drowned, the only reason he lost his hand was because he didn't use his Orochi powers to their fullest extent, it was the first time he ever used them.
No he didn't... they first appeared in Tekken 2, after Kaz dropped him... And again, Rugal wasn't blown away by the Blacknoah blast, he withstood the shockwave and thats a damn good feat considering he never used the Orochi power before.
Watch the animation Sado, the whole ship went up, there wasn't enough peices left to sink...
see this is the shot given to us of the blast. its sinking and the blast doesn't seem too big either. and before you start...its the same damn thing all over again.
so as we see:
-the blast isn't that big
-Omega Rugal couldn't stand it, lost an arm to it.
-may or may not have been laid out though once again if he lost a whole forearm to it, safe bet is he was (but i'll play along).
besides, i think most people are missing the point here. Rugal would have been vaporized at any rate with such a tinyass explosion as opposed to the honmaru blast. So at any rate, Heihachi>>Rugal.
Rugal alone was trouncing team japan, so safe bet is Heihachi would do worse.
SHORIYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~The invincible Sado-sama
Originally posted by Sado22
it goes either way darko. we can't say. the only thing we can do is speculate whether a man who had his whole arm blown off would remain conscious or unconscious. to me if a man got his whole arm blown off he is likely to be unconscious rather than conscious but who is to say.
Actually, there is a really sensibleandlogical reason why I know Rugal remained concious throughout that ordeal, if he was KOed, he would not have survived, he wouldhave drowned, therefore,logic dictates that he remained conscious.
Originally posted by Sado22
all we see in KoF94 is flames in the middle of the ocean. In KoF98 we are actually shown the SAME blacknoah brought back up and burnt like hell since its a dreammatch. at the end of it, he performs the same blast again. this time they give us a shot of the blacknoah. looks like someone is wrong:see this is the shot given to us of the blast. its sinking and the blast doesn't seem too big either. and before you start...its the same damn thing all over again.
so as we see:
-the blast isn't that big
-Omega Rugal couldn't stand it, lost an arm to it.
-may or may not have been laid out though once again if he lost a whole forearm to it, safe bet is he was (but i'll play along).besides, i think most people are missing the point here. Rugal would have been vaporized at any rate with such a tinyass explosion as opposed to the honmaru blast. So at any rate, Heihachi>>Rugal.
Rugal alone was trouncing team japan, so safe bet is Heihachi would do worse.SHORIYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~The invincible Sado-sama
Your using the Dreammatch to determine canon now? sorry Sado, thats not cool, BTW,the last frameof the Noah going upeven then was a huge blast that vaped the ship.
Your using the Dreammatch to determine canon now? sorry Sado, thats not cool, BTW,the last frameof the Noah going upeven then was a huge blast that vaped the ship
~THE Sado-sama
Originally posted by Sado22
the screen just faded to white because it was all over.
then why did the picture switch after the white out to the helicopter flying towards the sunset?
Come on dude, you know as well as I do, that if the ship's reactor was breached, the whole thing (Plus a considerable area around it) would have gone up in nuclear flames...
Point is Heihachi's more durable than Rugal. He wouldn't lose an arm in a massive explosion and not a hair for that matter. If an explosion such as the Black Noah one can vaporize Rugal, then Heihachi would pwn him. End of discussion.
With that considered, there's no way in hell Geese would beat Heihachi. Geese dies from a fall and Heihachi was blasted miles away and above clouds at the same time, and then hit a tombstone. All that did was make him unconscious with barely any scratches on his body. Afterwards, he rises to fight in the King of Iron Fist tournament 5, and beats the sh*t out of almost the entire Tekken cast.
Also DZ, you don't mean to tell me Geese would have a chance against Devil do you?
Originally posted by Xenogears
Point is Heihachi's more durable than Rugal. He wouldn't lose an arm in a massive explosion and not a hair for that matter. If an explosion such as the Black Noah one can vaporize Rugal, then Heihachi would pwn him. End of discussion.With that considered, there's no way in hell Geese would beat Heihachi. Geese dies from a fall and Heihachi was blasted miles away and above clouds at the same time, and then hit a tombstone. All that did was make him unconscious with barely any scratches on his body. Afterwards, he rises to fight in the King of Iron Fist tournament 5, and beats the sh*t out of almost the entire Tekken cast.
Also DZ, you don't mean to tell me Geese would have a chance against Devil do you?
😑 WTF is wrong with you? Where do you get Heihachi being more durable than Rugal from that? Rugal survived a nuclear explosion after fighting a terrific battle. Heihachi survived a couple of falls, a volcano, and some jack robots.
Rugal was not vaporized, he only lost his hand and part of his forearm. Geese died after a huge battle against Terry, who would also murder Heihachi.
Geese would have a good shot at beating Devil. I'm not sure if he could do it, since they are closely matched.
Where did Heihachi beat almost the entire Tekken 5 cast? Show me that one.
And if you think beating the Tekken cast is comparable to beating the KOF 95's roster, you are tripping. 😆
then why did the picture switch after the white out to the helicopter flying towards the sunset?
i'm talking of the one in KoF98 and i don't recall sunset and what not.
Point is Heihachi's more durable than Rugal. He wouldn't lose an arm in a massive explosion and not a hair for that matter. If an explosion such as the Black Noah one can vaporize Rugal, then Heihachi would pwn him. End of discussion.
With that considered, there's no way in hell Geese would beat Heihachi. Geese dies from a fall and Heihachi was blasted miles away and above clouds at the same time, and then hit a tombstone. All that did was make him unconscious with barely any scratches on his body. Afterwards, he rises to fight in the King of Iron Fist tournament 5, and beats the sh*t out of almost the entire Tekken cast.
Also DZ, you don't mean to tell me Geese would have a chance against Devil do you?
~The invincible Sado-sama