Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh, for that matter, I guess Surfer wouldn't even need K-nite or redsun radiation, since 1 of his blast is WAAAAAY more powerful than an exploding gas station, and we know that Supes can't handle that big of a blast. 😆
By the way in case you aren't up to date with Supes, hes near immune to K-nite now, IC#7 for example, and when supes fought Lex Luthor on a ship made of K-nite.
Secondly Red-sunradiation? Maybe you haven't kept up to date on that either but that doesn't instantly effect him nor does it hurt him as much as you seem to think, supes has been showing more and more immunity to his previous weaknesses.
Absorb the energy out of Superman? Who is to say SS can even do such a thing, SS body is very powerful and has a shield around it 24/7, the only thing that bypasses this shield (some times) is magic on a high level, and SS doesn't have that. It is justas hypothetical to say that SS wouldn't be able to energy manipulate, transmute, or drain Supes , then it is it to say that SS could, because going by showings supes has resisted and shown to be able to overcome these types of attacks again and again.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Toymans worse. 😂 Besides, last time I checked, Supes didn't carry a knife, and he wasn't able to fire off bolts of lightning.Oh, and for the record, Supes didn't knock Thor out with just one punch, there was an exchange of blows before that happened.
Supes doesn't need a knife, he just picks up a rock off the ground and turns it into a knife with his heat vision, o and if a regular thunderbolt nearly killed SS (bolts of lightning are heat by the way) then Supes heatvision which can heat up and incinerate planets (which he has done before) would instantly anihilate SS 😄
Originally posted by Jesse7
Supes doesn't need a knife, he just picks up a rock off the ground and turns it into a knife with his heat vision, o and if a regular thunderbolt nearly killed SS (bolts of lightning are heat by the way) then Supes heatvision which can heat up and incinerate planets (which he has done before) would instantly anihilate SS 😄
Bolts of lightning are more then just heat but yeah, SS has also absorbed a red sun so are you saying heat is a factor now?
SS has absorbed an entire Red Sun thats alot more energy then Superman is storing in his body that's not alot at all actually in comparison.
He's still not completely immune. And on case your not up to date on Surfer, he just got a power upgrade, so he's more powerful than before. I'm not saying that a single blast WOULD take Supes out, but repeated blast of high intesity K-nite and redsun radiation WOULD.For that matter, Surfer could change Supes own costume to kryptonite.(and about Supes shield, you forgot to mention Doomday's bones penetrating it, so don't try to act like it's ONLY vulnerable to magic)
And I did notice that you tried to avoid the whole one punch to KO Thor thing.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Supes doesn't need a knife, he just picks up a rock off the ground and turns it into a knife with his heat vision, o and if a regular thunderbolt nearly killed SS (bolts of lightning are heat by the way) then Supes heatvision which can heat up and incinerate planets (which he has done before) would instantly anihilate SS 😄
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well Thor walked right through that planet incinerating planet to get to Supes, so it must be overrated. And Surfer is prettymuch immune to heat(you know flying through stars and stuff). But his blast are still more powerful than an exploding gas station, which KO'd Supes before.
I guess Thors charged Mjolnir blast and throw is overrated since he hit supes dead on in the face, and then supes got right back up 😄
And Supes heatvision is hotter then lightning which ko'ed and nearly killed SS.
P.S. Your right it wasn't one hit from supes that ko'ed Thor, it was 3 😆
Originally posted by Jesse7
I guess Thors charged Mjolnir blast and throw is overrated since he hit supes dead on in the face, and then supes got right back up 😄And Supes heatvision is hotter then lightning which ko'ed and nearly killed SS.
P.S. Your right it wasn't one hit from supes that ko'ed Thor, it was 3 😆
You do know that in JLAVengers, Thor threw the hammer, took Superman out the game for a bit, took on WW and MM, and then came back to Superman?? All by his lonesome?
Originally posted by darthgoober
He's still not completely immune. And on case your not up to date on Surfer, he just got a power upgrade, so he's more powerful than before. I'm not saying that a single blast WOULD take Supes out, but repeated blast of high intesity K-nite and redsun radiation WOULD.For that matter, Surfer could change Supes own costume to kryptonite.(and about Supes shield, you forgot to mention Doomday's bones penetrating it, so don't try to act like it's ONLY vulnerable to magic)And I did notice that you tried to avoid the whole one punch to KO Thor thing.
Haha I'm aware of SS upgrades yet by feats he hasn't shown anything greater then before, SS can blast Supes with K-nite Radiation all he wants but as shown in comics fighting on a ship made of pure K-nite for a prolonged period of time did little to nothing to Supes, so SS can blast away all he wants 😄. Secondly do you think well SS is using his time to blast him with k-nite radiation that supes is just going to stand there, Supes is going to be pummeling SS and KO him which is very likely and hypothetical to say because Supes in a cannon xover of marvel/dc ko'ed thor in 3 hits (your right it wasn't one).
Surfer Charge Supes costume? Supes shield covers him, his costume and anything directly nearly his body. Well I guess your right doomsdays bones did pierce Supes body that one time, but then again a regular knife pierced and nearly killed SS want to take that into the debate? 😆
Originally posted by UniOmni
You do know that in JLAVengers, Thor threw the hammer, took Superman out the game for a bit, took on WW and MM, and then came back to Superman?? All by his lonesome?
Did you know in that WW and two others fought and defeated Surtur? All by their lonesome? I would say they were a bit tired.
P.S. your right thors hammer charged hammer throw did take supes out of the picture just for a bit, wasn't long at all, well Supes on the other hand in 3 hits ko'ed Thor.
P.S.S. wasn't one hit that ko'ed Thor, but rather was 3 😄
Originally posted by Jesse7
I guess Thors charged Mjolnir blast and throw is overrated since he hit supes dead on in the face, and then supes got right back up 😄And Supes heatvision is hotter then lightning which ko'ed and nearly killed SS.
P.S. Your right it wasn't one hit from supes that ko'ed Thor, it was 3 😆
Originally posted by Jesse7
Haha I'm aware of SS upgrades yet by feats he hasn't shown anything greater then before, SS can blast Supes with K-nite Radiation all he wants but as shown in comics fighting on a ship made of pure K-nite for a prolonged period of time did little to nothing to Supes, so SS can blast away all he wants 😄. Secondly do you think well SS is using his time to blast him with k-nite radiation that supes is just going to stand there, Supes is going to be pummeling SS and KO him which is very likely and hypothetical to say because Supes in a cannon xover of marvel/dc ko'ed thor in 3 hits (your right it wasn't one).Surfer Charge Supes costume? Supes shield covers him, his costume and anything directly nearly his body. Well I guess your right doomsdays bones did pierce Supes body that one time, but then again a regular knife pierced and nearly killed SS want to take that into the debate? 😆
Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thor has also put that same charged Mjolnir thru a celestials face and out the back of his head.. Highs and lows...Comics are filled with them.
Actually that was a godblast combined with throwing Mjolnir as the energy conduit as well as wrapping Mjolnir with the belt of strength.
Yeah it did crack Exitars outer shell, but then Exitar instantly repaired himself.
P.S. Mjolnir along with the belt was completely destroyed, but Exitar was nice enough to restore it for him.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually that was a godblast combined with throwing Mjolnir as the energy conduit as well as wrapping Mjolnir with the belt of strength.Yeah it did crack Exitars outer shell, but then Exitar instantly repaired himself, and that was exitars giant dome he craked in that story that shattered Mjolnir.
He also took several direct hits from celestials in that book and survived.
P.S. Mjolnir along with the belt was completely destroyed, but Exitar was nice enough to restore it for him.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I have no problem with Supes getting up from a shot from Thor, I actually give Supes the majority over Thor, I've just noticed you going around trying to claim that Supes could KO Thor with one shot, so I thought I'd correct you(I know it HAD to be an oversight, it's not like your biased for Supes or anything). And Surfers blast have a lot more force behind them then an exploding gas station, which KO'd Superman. 😄Thor isn't Surfer. And Surfers not likely to be stupid enough to go h2h with Supes when he doesn't have to. He'll just fly around, absorbing energy from Supes own body, change it to redsun radiation or K-nite, and blast Supes with it. This won't take Supes out right off, but everytime he does it,Supes will get a little bit weaker. After a bit, Supes is going down.
Except Supes can't drain or take energy from Supes body, because of not only his bio field but also because Supes on panel showings of that doesn't work for years now 😄
K-nite blast? I suppose If Surfer did it for days it would have an effect on Supes eventually, seeing as being on a ship made of K-nite, constantly I might add in a prolonged fight did little to Supes and he still won his fight.
O and by the way SS doesn't have to want to go h2h, SS can try to stay away and blast all he wants, but going by comic showings and not by fan speculation, SS doesn't have this praised speed to keep away from supes that some like to think he has. SS like it or not is going to be forced into h2h by Supes, and for the record SS durability is lowers then Thor's going by comic showings for the last 20 years.
As avalon has said before, "the KMC surfer doesn't exist in comics" its fan made.
Originally posted by Soleran
Bolts of lightning are more then just heat but yeah, SS has also absorbed a red sun so are you saying heat is a factor now?SS has absorbed an entire Red Sun thats alot more energy then Superman is storing in his body that's not alot at all actually in comparison.
Superman absorbed the concentrated god killing anti sun of mageddon in one try.
Apparently he can absorb when he wants to as well.
Originally posted by MJOILNIR
He actually took several direct blasts from celestials in that book and survived as well, though of course he didnt win.
Doesn't change the fact that in recent comics which have say over older comics (because it shows their current status), that Thor was ko'ed by Supes with 3 hits, that and Supes wable to stalemate Thors Mjolnir energy blast with heat vision.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Doesn't change the fact that in recent comics which have say over older comics (because it shows their current status), that Thor was ko'ed by Supes with 3 hits, that and Supes wable to stalemate Thors Mjolnir energy blast with heat vision.