Superman Vrs Silver Surfer

Started by MJOILNIR16 pages

Originally posted by Jesse7
Doesn't change the fact that in recent comics which have say over older comics (because it shows their current status), that Thor was ko'ed by Supes with 3 hits, that and Supes wable to stalemate Thors Mjolnir energy blast with heat vision.

If you read back and look, I never said it did, and RKT was more recent than that crossover for that matter. I was only pointing out that comics have highs and lows. I dont argue over comics 😉

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Superman absorbed the concentrated god killing anti sun of mageddon in one try.

Apparently he can absorb when he wants to as well.

If anyone ever tries to use the SS absorbing a red sun as a feat against supes again, this is the supes feat that clearly outclasses it.

P.S. It also shows that as Avalon said, "Supes can absorb when he wants to" on a grander scale then SS when he absorbed the red sun.

Kudos Avalon 🙂

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
If you read back and look, I never said it did, and RKT was more recent than that crossover for that matter. I was only pointing out that comics have highs and lows. I dont argue over comics 😉

Except RKT doesn't exist anymore going by Civil war which is more recent then Ragnarok.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Except RKT doesn't exist anymore going by Civil war which is more recent then Ragnarok.

thats debatable if thats the original Thor or just Donald Blake with Thors powers. RTK said he was going into the sleep. Im not convinced thats classic Thor.

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Originally posted by Jesse7
Except Supes can't drain or take energy from Supes body, because of not only his bio field but also because Supes on panel showings of that doesn't work for years now 😄

K-nite blast? I suppose If Surfer did it for days it would have an effect on Supes eventually, seeing as being on a ship made of K-nite, constantly I might add in a prolonged fight did little to Supes and he still won his fight.

O and by the way SS doesn't have to want to go h2h, SS can try to stay away and blast all he wants, but going by comic showings and not by fan speculation, SS doesn't have this praised speed to keep away from supes that some like to think he has. SS like it or not is going to be forced into h2h by Supes, and for the record SS durability is lowers then Thor's going by comic showings for the last 20 years.

As avalon has said before, "the KMC surfer doesn't exist in comics" its fan made.


Jesse, you seem to be forgetting something important, thread rules state-NO SPEED. So debating over who's faster is pretty pointless. So Surfer WOULD have to let Supes get close enough for h2h, because his ON PANEL energy feats WAAAAAAAAAY outclass Supes beloved heat vision. So K-nite and redsun aside, he could just stand back and blast Supes all day and night if that's what it took, and Supes wouldn't be able to get close enough to land a punch.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Jesse, you seem to be forgetting something important, thread rules state-NO SPEED. So debating over who's faster is pretty pointless. So Surfer WOULD have to let Supes get close enough for h2h, because his ON PANEL energy feats WAAAAAAAAAY outclass Supes beloved heat vision. So K-nite and redsun aside, he could just stand back and blast Supes all day and night if that's what it took, and Supes wouldn't be able to get close enough to land a punch.

no speed means no speed for either, ss can blast but well hes doing that Supes makes his way to SS and pummels him, it works both ways darth 😄.

Secondly SS way outclasses Supes beloved heat vision? O really? Going by feats thats not true, absorbing a red sun? Avalon provided the feat that outclasses it, cosmic blast blowing up planets? Supes can use heatvision to incinerate/blow up planets. Thors mjolnir energy blast have stalemated and bested Silver Surfers energy blast multiple times, and Supes heat vision stalemated Thors energy blast, you do the math.

K-nite radiatio hurt supes? please as already stated multiple times that doesn't work.
SS absorb Supes energy? His bio-field protects him from that sort of thing as shown time and time again in supes comics.

Originally posted by Jesse7
no speed means no speed for either, ss can blast but well hes doing that Supes makes his way to SS and pummels him, it works both ways darth 😄.

Secondly SS way outclasses Supes beloved heat vision? O really? Going by feats thats not true, absorbing a red sun? Avalon provided the feat that outclasses it, cosmic blast blowing up planets? Supes can use heatvision to incinerate/blow up planets. Thors mjolnir energy blast have stalemated and bested Silver Surfers energy blast multiple times, and Supes heat vision stalemated Thors energy blast, you do the math.

K-nite radiatio hurt supes? please as already stated multiple times that doesn't work.
SS absorb Supes energy? His bio-field protects him from that sort of thing as shown time and time again in supes comics.


How is Supes going to get close enough if Surfer Starts blasting right out of the gate? Unless they start the fight within arms reach of each other, HE'S NOT GOING TO GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO TOUCH SURFER. And Supes heatvision drains his energy reserve, so even IF(and that's a BIG if), he was able to amp it up enough to match the intensity of Surfers blast, HE would tire out, while Surfer wouldn't.

And unless you have a scan handy of Supes coming into contact with redsun radiation and it having no effect what so ever on him, that has happend since JLA/AVENGERS, you really can't say that it doesn't.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And unless you have a scan handy of Supes coming into contact with redsun radiation and it having no effect what so ever on him, that has happend since JLA/AVENGERS, you really can't say that it doesn't.

Ill check on that

Originally posted by darthgoober
How is Supes going to get close enough if Surfer Starts blasting right out of the gate? Unless they start the fight within arms reach of each other, HE'S NOT GOING TO GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO TOUCH SURFER. And Supes heatvision drains his energy reserve, so even IF(and that's a BIG if), he was able to amp it up enough to match the intensity of Surfers blast, HE would tire out, while Surfer wouldn't.

Secondly no, just no, Do you think supes energy reserve is a energizer battery? Please now your just downplaying supes, Supes has shown that even without yellow sun he can go a loooooooong way in combat, and with yellow sun energy constantly around them in this fight, hes going to be fine, Supes needs an energy boosT? He absorbs a sun or a star, as Avalon provided the example of him doing so on a MUCH larger scale then when SS absorbed a red sun.

SS is gonna be blasting supes right? and SS has no super speed, this is going to be slowing SS down, well supes on the other hand is going to sprint/fly right up to SS unbothered (even with no super speed he will still be faster then SS because unlike SS who is devoting some of his time and energy to blasting, Supes will be spriting/flying straight up to SS)

This thread makes my head hurt. 🙁

Originally posted by Jesse7
Secondly no, just no, Do you think supes energy reserve is a energizer battery? Please now your just downplaying supes, Supes has shown that even without yellow sun he can go a loooooooong way in combat, and with yellow sun energy constantly around them in this fight, hes going to be fine, Supes needs an energy boosT? He absorbs a sun or a star, as Avalon provided the example of him doing so on a MUCH larger scale then when SS absorbed a red sun.

SS is gonna be blasting supes right? and SS has no super speed, this is going to be slowing SS down, well supes on the other hand is going to sprint/fly right up to SS unbothered (even with no super speed he will still be faster then SS because unlike SS who is devoting some of his time and energy to blasting, Supes will be spriting/flying straight up to SS)


How exacty is Supes going to Sprint/Fly right up to Surfer while he's getting blasted? Now your just being silly.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Secondly no, just no, Do you think supes energy reserve is a energizer battery? Please now your just downplaying supes, Supes has shown that even without yellow sun he can go a loooooooong way in combat, and with yellow sun energy constantly around them in this fight, hes going to be fine, Supes needs an energy boosT? He absorbs a sun or a star, as Avalon provided the example of him doing so on a MUCH larger scale then when SS absorbed a red sun.

SS is gonna be blasting supes right? and SS has no super speed, this is going to be slowing SS down, well supes on the other hand is going to sprint/fly right up to SS unbothered (even with no super speed he will still be faster then SS because unlike SS who is devoting some of his time and energy to blasting, Supes will be spriting/flying straight up to SS)

Once again Avalon pointed out one absorption feat and SS has the one I told you about and many others, Superman's one feat of absorbing doesn't overcome the MANY MANY feats SS has for absorbing various energies and manipulating them🙂 Thanks

Recent Action comics show Supes being vulnerable to dumpining powers.
lost all his powers, shows his vulnerable to energy/matter manipulation..
SS matter manipulation should work on Supes.. Also SS absorbs souls, shows when he was Blackbody Surfer and since he compied this configuration win he remade himself.. I dont see why he still cant do it...
So he absorbs Supes soul😄... Farfetch i know but its in his abilities... Who needs a soul gem.. lol

I just realized, there are people who say that energy absorption doesn't work on Superman, but they are forgetting 1 very important thing- Parasite. 😄

that's true, but doesn't his ability work differently to that of a cosmic weilder?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I just realized, there are people who say that energy absorption doesn't work on Superman, but they are forgetting 1 very important thing- Parasite. 😄

Parasite can absorb anyone, Surfer included.

Surfers power was absorbed not too long ago.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Parasite can absorb anyone, Surfer included.

Surfers power was absorbed not too long ago.


I'm aware of of all of that, I was just pointing out because Jesse likes to act like absorption NEVER works on Superman. Since it obviously does at least sometimes, it can't be completely dismissed.