Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhat do you want them to be called?
There's no room for disagreement. I paraphrased a quote and you called it pointless because you didn't see the point. That doesn't mean there wasn't one. There was one, and whether you like that or not, it means it wasn't pointLESS.Just move on.
-AC
Originally posted by BlackC@
Everyone knows what the emo image is, so I wont go in to that.I think it's ridiculous. Having teenage depression does not make you emo. I know people that wear tight, black pants, are suicidal and cut themselves and HATE emo music. They love bands like Black Sabbath, Metallica, Led Zepplin, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, etc. That does not make them emo.
It's stupid. I have yet to meet someone that is actually emo.
One of my friends got a new hair cut, he died it dark brown and got it parted with an angled fringe. One of our friends teased him for being emo. Having a hair style does not make him emo.
YOUR ARE ONLY EMO IF YOU LISTEN TO EMO MUSIC!!!!
To me, emo is not a look, it's a music GENRE.
This whole "Emo people are whiney teenagers that listen to Simple Plan, wear black clothes, eye liner, ***** about how bad their lives are while cutting themselves" is such a ridiculous image.
I'm so tired of hearing about it.Not once have I ever come across a so called 'emo' teenager.
People who whine about Emo's are Emo.
Originally posted by Ronny
That needs to die.
Was it a lie? No. They're everywhere.
I take pride in the fact that noone will find anyone like me anywhere. Even if I walk into a room full of people with my same interests, I won't look or act like any of them.
If you can be shoved into a group of look-alikes, you're a plauge.
Originally posted by Valharu
Hmm. Not as clever as you think. The first bites always the best. 🍺
I'm more clever than you think, Valharu. You fail to provide a relevant retort to my statement, except for that irrelevant and petty response you just handed my from out of your arse.
Originally posted by grey fox
People who whine about Emo's are Emo.
Ridiculous lie.
Originally posted by Epsilon Zero
An entity that does not appreciate life deserves the punishment of it's opposite; Death. If you cut yourself, or have the intention or wish to die, you deserve death itself. Saying that Emo kids that cut themselves don't deserve to die is foolish; It's the only thing they deserve.
Yeah, you sound madly appreciative of life.
-AC
Originally posted by Epsilon Zero
An entity that does not appreciate life deserves the punishment of it's opposite; Death. If you cut yourself, or have the intention or wish to die, you deserve death itself. Saying that Emo kids that cut themselves don't deserve to die is foolish; It's the only thing they deserve.
Generally people Cut themselves as a result of some sort of Mental Sickness. Now, by your reasoning, being sick is now Punishable by death...
Yes, be sure to give me a call the next time you come down with a Sickness. The Flu Perhaps? And I'll be sure to stop by with a .45 Semi-Auto.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauriwhy do they NEED a label? Why not just ignore them? It's people's rabid necessity to label that puts them in the same catagory.
-AC
The need to Label others is Human Nature. You can argue as vehemently as you like against it, but it really wont change much. Believe what you wish, but somewhere deep down, even you Stereotype others to some degree.
Originally posted by barbarossa
The need to Label others is Human Nature. You can argue as vehemently as you like against it, but it really wont change much. Believe what you wish, but somewhere deep down, even you Stereotype others to some degree.
Every real, credible (For lack of a better word) stereotype comes from truth, somewhere.
As I've proven many times, this label is not one of those. Therefore it's pointless.
Anyway, my point with saying what you quoted was simple; You don't need to label them. If you gain an impression by what they look like, fine, but there's no need to actually label them. If anything, call them scenesters, because they are adhering to a "scene". No need to go labelling or trying to specify the scene and getting it wrong.
-AC
Originally posted by barbarossa
Generally people Cut themselves as a result of some sort of Mental Sickness. Now, by your reasoning, being sick is now Punishable by death...Yes, be sure to give me a call the next time you come down with a Sickness. The Flu Perhaps? And I'll be sure to stop by with a .45 Semi-Auto.
The need to Label others is Human Nature. You can argue as vehemently as you like against it, but it really wont change much. Believe what you wish, but somewhere deep down, even you Stereotype others to some degree.
So, you're saying that most people have a reasonable sickness? Can you show me where you get this statistic that generally people that cut themselves have a mental problem? And for those who do not deserve death for they do not appreciate life. It's truly that simple.
Originally posted by Epsilon ZeroThat's beside the point. Isn't the fact that they mutilate their own bodies and then hide it from everybody an indication that something isn't right with them, mentally?
Yes, because pulling things out of your arse doesn't generally make people believe that you're correct, nor does it hold water.
I've gathered that people cut for the same reason others get drunk, or smoke pot. They want to take their minds off the other stresses in their lives for a little bit, physical pain replaces the emotional pain, then eventually it becomes habitual. To claim it's exclusive to kids who blindly follow a falsely labeled music genre is just plain silly.
Me? I just shrug my shoulders at threads like this and say "what the ****". They're kids, and we've all been there, following a trend thanks in part to a band. That's pop culture. We've also had bad days, ran away from home, or thought we were unloved and took it out on ourselves somehow. That's just how it goes. Granted, cutting is some mutation of self-pity, and how it evolved, I'll never know, but it is a mental illness, indeed.
Anyway, I think anyone who's ever participated in these threads has gotten a crash course in Emo 101 from AC. Just listen to what he's said and move on. Don't get bent out of shape because you find him abrasive. I'd be the same way if my explanations were neglected time and time again. It's as simple as this. "Emo" is just another bastardized fad that kids follow. It's misconstrued, misused, and for the misguided.
Thankfully, being the musical elitist that I am, with a roster of maybe 10-15 bands I listen to on a regular basis, and totally disgusted with today's metal scene, I don't have this problem. My interactivity with the meatheaded metal community is nil. I like what I like. I can be bopping to Full Blown Chaos in my car, wearing American Eagle clothes and not give a shit what anyone thinks of me.
I'm me. I'm out for me. I listen to what I like and dress how I tell myself to. How many other people can say that for themselves?
Originally posted by Epsilon Zero
An entity that does not appreciate life deserves the punishment of it's opposite; Death. If you cut yourself, or have the intention or wish to die, you deserve death itself. Saying that Emo kids that cut themselves don't deserve to die is foolish; It's the only thing they deserve.
My friend was cutting because she was really suffering, and it was a way for her to handle her pain, and maybe she was unconsciously or consciously doing it as a way to get attention from people she didn't feel cared about her. What she needed was support, and help.. she didn't "deserve" to die. People go through shit, and have pain.. and some people handle it in a way that isn't helpful to their bodies, and as a way of escape. I think having compassion for people who do this, and giving them support is really important.
Originally posted by C-Dic
I'm me. I'm out for me. I listen to what I like and dress how I tell myself to. How many other people can say that for themselves?
I cant say i've ever been swayed by trends or fads. I dont listen to a band because thier popular or wear a trendy line of clothes. I, like Cine just said, listen to what i like, and wear what i like.