Thanos /w/ IG v.s. Anti-Monitor

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Better feats of the AM... Anyone?

Originally posted by Raoul
i haven't read that issue since it came out, so i honestly don't remember...

Yeah, haven't read it in a while. Like twice ever.

Been attempting to finish classes, and gather all of Taskmaster's appearances up. Of which my luck is not doing so hot.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah, haven't read it in a while. Like twice ever.

Been attempting to finish classes, and gather all of Taskmaster's appearances up. Of which my luck is not doing so hot.

lack of issues? or just a lot to go through?

Originally posted by Raoul
lack of issues? or just a lot to go through?

He's got enough issues, they're just hard to find. Especially the earlier Avengers ones.

Got all of his newer stuff ('97-present.)

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Nobody walked away everyone that was touched by it died,if I remember correctly he got intterupted by the guardians blasting his face.

So it was an extended effort on his part to sustain the wave then? Well then it kinda supports the idea that he couldn't have created the original AM wave on his own since he wasn't present at any of the destroyed universes during COIE and was running round doing other things during the arc.

And if what Eny says here is true...

Originally posted by Enyalus
I think the Guardians busted his armor up pretty good first. And the AM Wave was very, very slow. And a few people survived it, IIRC. Not many...2?

Then we definitely shouldn't assume that it's the same type of AM Wave that was originally used because the first one moved FAST and took down the various universes before any kind of actual defense could be raised.

Originally posted by Enyalus
He's got enough issues, they're just hard to find. Especially the earlier Avengers ones.

Got all of his newer stuff ('97-present.)

if i can help in any way, let me know.

He has to convert the raw positive matter into anti-matter which in his vastly diminished state probably takes some effort and getting blasted by a bunch of skyfathers tends to interfere with your efforts,it being slow and everything can be attributed to him again being absolutely nothing compared to his Crisis levels of power,he destroyed pariahs world without tech and being a different universe at the time.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
He has to convert the raw positive matter into anti-matter which in his vastly diminished state probably takes some effort and getting blasted by a bunch of skyfathers tends to interfere with your efforts,it being slow and everything can be attributed to him again being absolutely nothing compared to his Crisis levels of power,he destroyed pariahs world without tech and being a different universe at the time.

Yeah your excuses for him MIGHT be true, but all of it is completely unproven. And NONE of your excuses changes the fact that the Antimatter Wave that destroyed most of the DC multiverse during COIE was the result of tech rather than AM's own personal power. There's been actual proof posted to support what I'm saying, there's no proof(at least that's been posted) to support the notion that he created the original AM Wave using his own power. None.

As for Pariah and his universe...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Did it ever specifically say that Antimonitor used only his own power to create the Antimatter Wave that destroyed Pariah's universe? If not, it doesn't contradict the scan I posted.

Also didn't Pariah himself use tech that allowed AM to destroy his universe or did AM just take the thing out with a wave of his hand from his own universe with no help from Pariah?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The IG has no multiversal feats. Stopping the UN from shooting a single target does not make it multiversal. Nor does one declaration from Thanos with no proof.
The scans have been posted and you have no choice but to accept it.
Originally posted by Nestical
i bet if a dc character said it, it would be good as gold.what a dueche 😆
😂
Originally posted by tsscls
In Coie, AM caused the destruction of many different alterante universes. If we tranfer this to the Marvel omniverse/multiverse, then he would have destroyed many different versions of Thanos/w the IG. Pre-crisis DC had many different characters that had that crazy level of power that the IG had, and if you multiply that by a near infinite # of universes. then AM wins this hands down. He beat the PC Spectre amped by all the crazy PC DC magic users. That alone tells you he could take out Thanos.
What does his battle tell us anything that has to do with Thanos? That he can take the Spectre's best. This has nothing to do with Thanos. His powers are limitless, can warp reality, etc. He can make Am's tech obsolete, etc.

Thanos wins this ten of ten.

No AM in CoIE Destroys Thanos with his IG 10/10.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Did it ever specifically say that Antimonitor used only his own power to create the Antimatter Wave that destroyed Pariah's universe? If not, it doesn't contradict the scan I posted.

Also didn't Pariah himself use tech that allowed AM to destroy his universe or did AM just take the thing out with a wave of his hand from his own universe with no help from Pariah?

Pariah thought he used tech to inadvertently release the Anti-Monitor, leading to the destruction of his universe and others. This turned out to be false.

To my recollection, we never see Anti-Monitor release an anti-matter wave from his own being during Crisis on Infinite Earths. His reliance on machines in various capacities is well-documented, which includes your scan. But we did see Anti-Monitor create a city-sized anti-matter wall in Sinestro Corps War. On the other hand, some of the universes he destroyed, he wasn't even present in. So can he project anti-matter waves into universes? Without instrumentation, I don't think so. For that reason and others, I believe it's exceptionally arguable that Anti-Monitor used machines to accelerate or amplify his anti-matter creation abilities to the point of destroying universes before they could react.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah, but we never saw AM himself emit the original Antimatter Wave either. They may never actually showed where the wave came from, but the scan I posted definitely indicates it was the result of tech.
As I said before, even when we see AM's tech, all it's ever shown doing is releasing Shadown Demons (even if an anti-matter wave in that universe is already present.)

And remember that anti-matter feeds off of positive-matter. (ie.) the more positive-matter the wave destroys/absorbs, the more powerful it becomes - meaning there could have only been one wave.

again the feats of the AM alone that puts him above the IG?

Originally posted by Galan007
As I said before, even when we see AM's tech, all it's ever shown doing is releasing Shadown Demons (even if an anti-matter wave in that universe is already present.)

And remember that anti-matter feeds off of positive-matter. (ie.) the more positive-matter the wave destroys/absorbs, the more powerful it becomes - meaning there could have only been one wave.

Its my opinion that Anti-Monitor released waves on each universe.

Originally posted by ares834
No AM in CoIE Destroys Thanos with his IG 10/10.
How?