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In the Jedi world, the form known as Juyo (numbered VII) was an oddity for millennia. Considered by many masters to be an incomplete form, it was later utilised by Jedi Master Mace Windu, who used it to create his Vaapad fighting style. The most challenging and demanding of all forms, Form VII requires intense focus, high levels of skill, and mastery of other forms. [21]
In KOTOR 2, which takes place about 4,000 years before the Clone Wars, the Jedi Exile could learn Form VII Juyo from Master Kavar if the Exile was a Guardian, Weapon Master, or Marauder. This shows that Form VII was already an effective form for millennia before Mace Windu completed it with Vaapad. In KOTOR II, Juyo is portrayed as a powerful but precarious form that sacrifices defense against both weapons and the Force in return for greater dexterity and strength of attack. Every blow from a master of Form VII Juyo threatened to be a life-ending critical strike.
Form VII Vaapad is without question the rarest form, with only two Jedi ever truly mastering Vaapad: Mace Windu and his Padawan, Depa Billaba. Sora Bulq, (who instructed Quinlan Vos in a few of the form's basics, although he never fully mastered Vaapad) was acknowledged by Mace Windu as knowing "almost as much as him". As stated in Star Wars Insider, Darth Maul was also trained in the Juyo Form.
However, Vaapad borders on the edge of using the dark side, as it channels one's anger and darkness into the attack— it may be related to Japanese shinkengata [11]. Only Windu's mastery and concentration of the light side prevents him from succumbing, which is why Vaapad is rarely practiced and very dangerous. The only two other known practitioners of Vaapad, Sora Bulq and Depa Billaba, both fell to the dark side of the Force, unable to maintain control over their emotions. [22]
Vaapad goes beyond being a fighting style as it becomes a state of mind and a power. The state of mind requires that a user of Vaapad be allowed to enjoy the fight and be given over to the thrill of battle and the thrill of victory.
The power of Vaapad is simple: it is a channel for one's inner darkness; and it is a reflecting device. With strict control, a person's own emotions and inner darkness can be changed into a weapon of the light. Vaapad is able to take the hatred, anger and rage of the opponent and reflect it back at him. In his fight with Palpatine, Mace Windu used Palpatine's own speed and hatred against him, reflecting it back against the Sith Lord and using it as his own power. Vaapad is at once a form of lightsaber combat, a state of mind, and an actual tangible power. To use it required great mastery, discipline and, above all else, purity of heart and spirit. Vaapad users are intense, focused, and introverted; there are even signs of pent-up hostility in them.
Intrepid, somewhat direct movements are used in combination with very advanced techniques involving Force-powered jumps and motions. Form VII does not appear as fancy as Form IV, but the technical details of it use very open movements resulting in a very unpredictable battle style. The staccato swings and flow of the form make it seem as if the attacks are not linked—but in reality, it is merely confusing the opponent. The sword techniques of this art are very practical, using "battlefield" philosophy: kill, move on. [7]
Form VII demands the emotional and physical intensity of Form V, but it much more effectively controls it. If mastered, Form VII results in extraordinary power.
Only through the learning of several other forms could a Jedi begin to understand Form VII, being the most demanding combat style. It involved so much physical combat ability that its training brings a Jedi very close to the Dark Side of the Force. To master Form VII, a Jedi had to employ bold movements and be more kinetic than in any other form. Form VII employed the use of overwhelming power directed through unconnected, precise movements that kept an opponent continually off-guard.
In the novel Shatterpoint, Mace Windu indicated that part of Depa Billaba's Vaapad blade work has even surpassed Mace Windu himself and the Vaapad he created and used.
Vaapad is believed to have been lost with the death of Mace Windu, as no records exist of its instruction after the end of the Clone Wars and the start of Luke Skywalker. The entirety of the form itself is believed to have died with Palpatine.
Known practitioners of Form VII: Vaapad: Mace Windu, Sora Bulq, Depa Billaba, Quinlan Vos (partial); Juyo: Darth Maul, Palpatine/Darth Sidious, Kavar.
HERE IS WHAT I CALLED THE FORM TRIANGLES, I AM NOT SURE IF TIS IS CORRECT SO DON'T BLAZE ME I AM!!!! I AM ONLY ASSUMING THAT IT WORKS LIKE THIS!!!!
Shien>Makashi
Makashi>Soresu
Soresu>Shien
I call this this the Shien, Makashi, Soresu Triangle. Though I may be wrong about it.
Juyo >,=,< Ataru
Shii-Cho is okay with all forms I guess.
Niman < everything
Fast > Slow
Strong > Fast
Strong < Slow
I called this the Fast-Strong-Slow Triange.
Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos
HERE IS WHAT I CALLED THE FORM TRIANGLES, I AM NOT SURE IF TIS IS CORRECT SO DON'T BLAZE ME I AM!!!! I AM ONLY ASSUMING THAT IT WORKS LIKE THIS!!!!Shien>Makashi
Makashi>Soresu
Soresu>ShienI call this this the Shien, Makashi, Soresu Triangle. Though I may be wrong about it.
Juyo >,=,< Ataru
Shii-Cho is okay with all forms I guess.
Niman < everything
Fast > Slow
Strong > Fast
Strong < SlowI called this the Fast-Strong-Slow Triange.
I wouldn't say Niman is worse than them, it combines every form, so you're a Moderate in each, it should in theory be very effective, in KoToR 2, I used that and Shien the most
Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
I wouldn't say Niman is worse than them, it combines every form, so you're a Moderate in each, it should in theory be very effective, in KoToR 2, I used that and Shien the most
Shien was trash, man. 😛
Form V – Perseverance (Shien)
Attack : +2
Defence vs Current Target : -5 🙁
Blaster Bolt Deflection : +2
Critical Multiplier : +1
Juyo FTW.
Originally posted by zephiel7
Shien was trash, man. 😛Form V – Perseverance (Shien)
🙁
Attack : +2
[b]Defence vs Current Target : -5
Blaster Bolt Deflection : +2
Critical Multiplier : +1Juyo FTW. [/B]
Wow, I thought it was better, maybe because I didn't realise the purpose of styles till I went back in played it again with cheats =P
How does Niman suck? It is in theory the BEST form, just because most of their Practioners got killed, doesn't mean it sucked