Kronos vs. Pre Retcon Beyonder

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please don't try and use a part of a statement to back up your argument. He said he had a headache referring to the fact that the DCu and all it's lines of continuity were stupid!! It wasn't a real Headache. MXy can't even feel pain. We learned that when he was trying to kill himself.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
He took down Doom w/ Full powered Galactus power, like nothing.
That's a Eternity, he was more powerful than a room full of abstracts (including the Living Tribunal, whom is more powerful than Multi-Eternity, in other words the Multi-verse)

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
He took down Doom w/ Full powered Galactus power, like nothing.
That's a Eternity, he was more powerful than a room full of abstracts (including the Living Tribunal, whom is more powerful than Multi-Eternity, in other words the Multi-verse)

And exactly how does that equate him being able to beat Mxy who erased every single multiverse ever in the DCU? It doesn't. Just becuz alexander the great could beat every one in his own universe ( time) doesn't mean he could beat George W. Bush. Even tho alexander was truly magnificant and much smarter than W. W's forces would creme Alexander's. So no. The beyonder punking a bunch of abstracts does not equate to him being able to beat Mxy.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You realize that Mxy at the world funnest was in the silver age...
And he didnt try and kill himself back than, you can compare the present Mxy to the Silver-age version of him.

Actualy World Funnest was written after the silver age. And If I can't compare mxy then( who was NOT affected by crisis) then you can't use pre retcon beyonder.

nor does it equate to him being able to take lucifer and michael

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And exactly how does that equate him being able to beat Mxy who erased every single multiverse ever in the DCU? It doesn't. Just becuz alexander the great could beat every one in his own universe ( time) doesn't mean he could beat George W. Bush. Even tho alexander was truly magnificant and much smarter than W. W's forces would creme Alexander's. So no. The beyonder punking a bunch of abstracts does not equate to him being able to beat Mxy.

Originally posted by galan7777777
nor does it equate to him being able to take lucifer and michael

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actualy World Funnest was written after the silver age. And If I can't compare mxy then( who was NOT affected by crisis) then you can't use pre retcon beyonder.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The point was, you said he couldent destroy a universe because he never did it.

Originally posted by galan7777777
no, i didnt say he couldnt, i said he never did this on pannel....... u said the same thing, all he was ever shown destroying was a galaxy

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Than how come, Mxy destroyed a Multi-verse when DC is just a universe?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No... But statements is a panel itself, until it's proven wrong.

Originally posted by galan7777777
well if thats true then i could say that lucifer alone has done many of the same feats as beyonder

Post-Crisis
Some fans refused to accept that the Multiverse no longer "existed" after Crisis, and posited that the "post-Crisis" DC Universe was merely another alternate universe within the Multiverse, sometimes dubbed "Earth-PC" or "Earth-Sigma" (the mathematical "summation" symbol), Earth-2, or Clutter-Earth (a derogatory reference) after the events of Zero Hour. A story in Animal Man by Grant Morrison referred to the Multiverse, with its effects coming undone as comic books, along with characters who no longer or never had existed emerging from the Psycho-Pirate’s mask inside Arkham Asylum. Remarks made in Infinite Crisis #6 (re: Legion of Superheroes, Tangent Comics heroes) indicated that the other worlds' histories had somehow continued after Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Like surpassed all the other powers in the multi-verse combinded, I think not.

Originally posted by galan7777777
well its stated by yahweh that lucifer's power is 2nd in all of creation only to himself, lucifer has faced death itself (death was to scared to even act), lucifer has defied and ordered spectre around like a child (spectre is like LT's equal in the DCU), and lucifer has killed a demon of immortality......... this is just a few of many feats, so please dont dismiss lucifer AND michael so easily

LT second to the Supreme being.
Lucifer second to the Supreme being.

Kill an immortal is not really that hard, Thor have been slayed a couple of times.

Death was scared of Beyonder as well. http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beyondertalkingtodeath2kx4.jpg

Originally posted by galan7777777
well its stated by yahweh that lucifer's power is 2nd in all of creation only to himself, lucifer has faced death itself (death was to scared to even act), lucifer has defied and ordered spectre around like a child (spectre is like LT's equal in the DCU), and lucifer has killed a demon of immortality......... this is just a few of many feats, so please dont dismiss lucifer AND michael so easily

it's really quite simple, Michael and lucifer have the power to create infinite universes. That Lucifer so easily shaped a universe out of michael in a few seconds and so effortlessly only shows the true nature of thier power. If the power that it took to make the universe was so great to them, theywould have been shown as being taxed. as it stood, the release of power that micheal excerted was nothing to him. and lucifer did all the real work. Shaping and molding the universe. we all know the hard work it takes to build a building, even if one doesn't make the materials. It takes as much work or even more work to actually put the building together. With that being said, lucifer had to have as much power, or more to actually shape the universe. And he did it with ease. Lucifer and michael are infinitely more powerful than anyone dare realize or grasp. The scope of thier power would have to be studied in order to fully understand what they represent.

In fact Lucifer did it so effortless that he needed Michael's help...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
In fact Lucifer did it so effortless that he needed Michael's help...

Does it say he needed michael's help? you don't understand the character at all. to him it was all a game. a matching of wits.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
it's really quite simple, Michael and lucifer have the power to create infinite universes. That Lucifer so easily shaped a universe out of michael in a few seconds and so effortlessly only shows the true nature of thier power. If the power that it took to make the universe was so great to them, theywould have been shown as being taxed. as it stood, the release of power that micheal excerted was nothing to him. and lucifer did all the real work. Shaping and molding the universe. we all know the hard work it takes to build a building, even if one doesn't make the materials. It takes as much work or even more work to actually put the building together. With that being said, lucifer had to have as much power, or more to actually shape the universe. And he did it with ease. Lucifer and michael are infinitely more powerful than anyone dare realize or grasp. The scope of thier power would have to be studied in order to fully understand what they represent.