Kronos vs. Pre Retcon Beyonder

Started by galan777777710 pages

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
In fact Lucifer did it so effortless that he needed Michael's help...
lucifer could have created a universe alone, but as ive stated before, he was forbidden this by god himself, only when he helped god was he permitted to finally make a universe of his own...... he used michaels power not because he needed it, but because it could then be shaped into an already proven image

And Lucifer couldent shape it like that alone.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
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You are the one that likes to use what is said on panel to denote someone's power. So i'm using the reverse,I'm using what is NOT said on panel. It NEVER said lucifer needed michael.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are the one that likes to use what is said on panel to denote someone's power. So i'm using the reverse,I'm using what is NOT said on panel. It NEVER said lucifer needed michael.

It was shown that he created a universe with Micahels help.

It wasent stated that he could do it alone.

It was stated that Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than the rest of the Multi-verse combinded.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And Lucifer couldent shape it like that alone.
he did shape it alone, he used michaels power because as i said it was an already proven image

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yes it did, check out the Lucifer respect thread.
lol, i have the lucifer book in front of me right now, and it dosent say he "needed michael", in fact is says that lucifer has never "made" a universe before 😆

Besides a universe is nothing when it comes to pure omnipotence.
Nullifier could destroy and reacreate a universe easiley.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Besides a universe is nothing when it comes to pure omnipotence.
Nullifier could destroy and reacreate a universe easiley.
how could the UN work if lucifer didnt want it to? and plus we arent talking about the nullifier here!

Originally posted by galan7777777
how could the UN work if lucifer didnt want it to? and plus we arent talking about the nullifier here!

Because Lucifer shapes universes, nullifier creates the Multi-verse.
Beyonder >> LT > IG > NU > Multi-verse

Originally posted by galan7777777
how could the UN work if lucifer didnt want it to? and plus we arent talking about the nullifier here!

You see how he argues in circles and brings other things in his arguments and then use the equation logic on these forums when every one agrees that doesn't work. Darksied beat silver surfer, superman beat darksied ( or at least an avatar) so does that mean superman beat's silver surfer? NOT. But this is the exact kind of logic he tries to use. and then he says how stuff said on panel automatically gives pre retcon the win when mxy was shown doing everything pre retcon was SAID to be able to do. Michael and Lucifer can beat the beyonder. and many on my list can beat him or stalemate him.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Because Lucifer shapes universes, nullifier creates the Multi-verse.
Beyonder >> LT > IG > NU > Multi-verse
but u even admitted that LT is 2nd in creation as is Lucifer, but yet LT is more powerful then the UN, so explain why Lucifer wouldnt be?

Originally posted by galan7777777
lol, i have the lucifer book in front of me right now, and it dosent say he "needed michael", in fact is says that lucifer has never "made" a universe before 😆

Thats true is doesn't say he needed michael 😉

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Michael and Lucifer can beat the beyonder. and many on my list can beat him or stalemate him.

You're serious?

- Not only do you say that Luficer and Michael can destroy the Marvel Multi-verse with ease.
You also say that they can beat a being who is millions of times all the powers in the Multi-verse, a merged being, imagion that.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You're serious?
explain how michael and lucifer couldnt beat him... and answer my other questions as well

Originally posted by galan7777777
but u even admitted that LT is 2nd in creation as is Lucifer, but yet LT is more powerful then the UN, so explain why Lucifer wouldnt be?

Because he havent been stated or Proven to be able to eradicate or create a Multi-verse.
Lucifer fans use the fact that Lucifer can create a universe as their prime state.

Originally posted by galan7777777
explain how michael and lucifer couldnt beat him... and answer my other questions as well

Because Lucifer and Michael havent been stated or proven to be millions of times all the other powers in a Multi-verse, or even a universe combinded. - So you do think Lucifer can beat the Beyonder?
Yet you think that Lucifer is about equal to LT, make up your mind.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Because he havent been stated or Proven to be able to eradicate or create a Multi-verse.
Lucifer fans use the fact that Lucifer can create a universe as their prime state.
and beyonder has proven this? the most he destroyed was a galaxy

Originally posted by galan7777777
and beyonder has proven this? the most he destroyed was a galaxy

Yes he proved this by releasing powers that was millions of times the rest of the Multi-verse combinded.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Because Lucifer and Michael havent been stated or proven to be millions of times all the other powers in a Multi-verse, or even a universe combinded. - So you do think Lucifer can beat the Beyonder?
Yet you think that Lucifer is about equal to LT, make up your mind.
and what would u call being stated to be 2nd and 3rd most powerful beings in creation is? and i didnt say he was equal to LT, u said that

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yes he proved this by releasing powers that was millions of times the rest of the Multi-verse combinded.
😆