Kronos vs. Pre Retcon Beyonder

Originally posted by galan7777777
and what would u call being stated to be 2nd and 3rd most powerful beings in creation is? and i didnt say he was equal to LT, u said that

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So you say that DC beings surpasses Marvel beings?

Originally posted by galan7777777
its equal on both sides

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So the second on both sides would be equal, correct?

Originally posted by galan7777777
why dont u go back and quote all of what i said, lucifer and michael are outside of normal creation just as beyonder is

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Define normal creation.

Originally posted by galan7777777
existance

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Created by God's hands is a part in a part of existance?

Originally posted by galan7777777
just like god, they are outside of all creation, and yes beyonder is outside of creation as well...... but that dosent mean that he can win

And what does their birth place have to do with it.

Lucifer is second to a being.
Beyonder at that time wasent.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Outside creation in DC = outside the universe

And what does their birth place have to do with it.

Lucifer is second to a being.
Beyonder at that time wasent.

Originally posted by galan7777777
ohhh, thats right, ure one of those people that think that beyonder can beat TOAA 😆 and remember u said Lucifer AND Michael wouldnt stand a chance

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I love Lucifer and have all his comics however youre hyping up the scale of Michaels explosion. As per Vertigo continuity where the majority these scans stem from, the Presences creation is just a universe as stated on panel.

With the demiurgic matter unleashed Lucifer went on to shape himself a universe also:

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/7716032260.jpg&s=x11

Lucifer shaped a universe and the Presences creation is also a universe.

Again Lucifer referring to his universe:

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/7716103930.jpg&s=x11

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/7716153878.jpg&s=x11

All of this talk about omniversal and even multiversal scale explosions is just hype from fansites.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You mean that he surpassed Thanos (HOTU) in power, yes he did.

Originally posted by galan7777777
first of all beyonders feats dont surpass thanos THOTU's, thanos absorbed everything in the entire multiverse, beyonder never did anything close to this, and GS's posts are irrelevant, i never claimed lucifer survived a multiversal explosion, nor did i say he created one 🙂

GS post is to claerfy that Presence only created a universe, thats the creation you speak of.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Beyonders statements ws above Thanos actions and statements.

GS post is to claerfy that Presence only created a universe, thats the creation you speak of.

u misinterpreted what uve read in the lucifer scans

Originally posted by galan7777777
beyonders statements! lol, actions speak louder then words my friend 🙂 and if the presnce only created 1 universe as u say, then where did everything else come from?

Let's put it this way. Michael and Lucifer are 2nd only to the presence. But the Presence is still trillions of times more powerful than them. And the two of them made a universe very easily. Of course the presence created the entire multiverse. He controls all that is. If superman lived on earth in the real world, and someone said that the worlds strongest body builder is 2nd only to superman, that doesn't mean he is any where near the might that superman has. With that being said, micheal and lucifer are so powerful that create universes at whim, and they are nothing compared to omnipotent might that is the presence.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let's put it this way. Michael and Lucifer are 2nd only to the presence. But the Presence is still trillions of times more powerful than them. And the two of them made a universe very easily. Of course the presence created the entire multiverse. He controls all that is. If superman lived on earth in the real world, and someone said that the worlds strongest body builder is 2nd only to superman, that doesn't mean he is any where near the might that superman has. With that being said, micheal and lucifer are so powerful that create universes at whim, and they are nothing compared to omnipotent might that is the presence.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let's put it this way. Michael and Lucifer are 2nd only to the presence. But the Presence is still trillions of times more powerful than them. And the two of them made a universe very easily. Of course the presence created the entire multiverse. He controls all that is. If superman lived on earth in the real world, and someone said that the worlds strongest body builder is 2nd only to superman, that doesn't mean he is any where near the might that superman has. With that being said, micheal and lucifer are so powerful that create universes at whim, and they are nothing compared to omnipotent might that is the presence.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I knew that... But you say that they are above the Living Tribunal, and you just specuate.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let's put it this way. Michael and Lucifer are 2nd only to the presence. But the Presence is still trillions of times more powerful than them. And the two of them made a universe very easily. Of course the presence created the entire multiverse. He controls all that is. If superman lived on earth in the real world, and someone said that the worlds strongest body builder is 2nd only to superman, that doesn't mean he is any where near the might that superman has. With that being said, micheal and lucifer are so powerful that create universes at whim, and they are nothing compared to omnipotent might that is the presence.