Pre Retcon Beyonder Runs the guantlet
Since this is pre retcon( basically an elseworlds beyonder since his re con, i'm going to use all beings from any where in comics as well)
1.Thanos with the IG
2. Emporer Joker
3. Mxy from Worlds funnest
4.Thanos With the heart of the universe
5. The anti monitor at the height of his power
6.The Molecule man after the retcon
7. Krona
8.The infinites
9.The full power of the ALE
10. The Queen of the Tenth Dimension.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How can he pass if Mxy in world's Funnest was shown using more power thatn the beyonder was ever shown doing?
Beyonder with a smile on his face, was not only stronger than every-thing that was there but also every being, abd by that i mean combinded.
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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Mxyzptlk tear down the DC multi-verse with fury, he was on the edge of his power. - Living Tribunal could do that (He's above Multi-Eternity)Beyonder with a smile on his face, was not only stronger than every-thing that was there but also every being, abd by that i mean combinded.
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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Mxyzptlk tear down the DC multi-verse with fury, he was on the edge of his power. - Living Tribunal could do that (He's above Multi-Eternity)Beyonder with a smile on his face, was not only stronger than every-thing that was there but also every being, abd by that i mean combinded.
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He was't on the edge of his power. He did it all effortlessly. and Laughed about it. and then put it all back. In that tale, he even Beat the spectre. Who at his height is as powerful as the LT. Which means mxy was over the LT.
Re: Pre Retcon Beyonder Runs the guantlet
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Since this is pre retcon( basically an elseworlds beyonder since his re con, i'm going to use all beings from any where in comics as well)1.Thanos with the IG
2. Emporer Joker
3. Mxy from Worlds funnest
4.Thanos With the heart of the universe
5. The anti monitor at the height of his power
6.The Molecule man after the retcon
7. Krona
8.The infinites
9.The full power of the ALE
10. The Queen of the Tenth Dimension.
Emporer Joker manipulated a universe, techanly he would be weaker than Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, who could manipulate many.
Mxyzptlk was here as well not retconned. - In Marvel this power (To destroy the Multi-verse) eqaul the Nullifier.
Thanos with the Heart is bound with everything in the Multi-verse (I'm using the term Multi-verse here because when classic Beyonder was the Multi-verse was supose to be all that was Marvel)
Thanos one with everything in the Multi-verse, he is everything in the Multi-verse equals one time the Multi-verse
Beyonder was millions of times the Multi-verse under limitations.
The Anti-Monitor would be no actual match for this incarnation of Beyonder, as said in the statements above.
Korona defeated Galactus easiley and destroyed a couple dimentions... But have never shown higher features suporting him. Beyonder would take this pretty easiley.
The infinite's are a part of DCU's structure, Beyonder could manipulate it and change the structre, like he did to Marvel when he removed Death.
Anti-Life Equalation is not above the Infinity Gauntlet, Beyonder takes this as well.
The Queen of the 10th dimention's power is unknown, but we do know for sure that it's bellow Lucifer's and therefore bellow God's (Thanos with the heart)
That's how In see it.
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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Thanos with the Infinity Gauantlet was bellow the Living Tribunal.Emporer Joker manipulated a universe, techanly he would be weaker than Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, who could manipulate many.
Mxyzptlk was here as well not retconned. - In Marvel this power (To destroy the Multi-verse) eqaul the Nullifier.
Thanos with the Heart is bound with everything in the Multi-verse (I'm using the term Multi-verse here because when classic Beyonder was the Multi-verse was supose to be all that was Marvel)
Thanos one with everything in the Multi-verse, he is everything in the Multi-verse equals one time the Multi-verse
Beyonder was millions of times the Multi-verse under limitations.The Anti-Monitor would be no actual match for this incarnation of Beyonder, as said in the statements above.
Korona defeated Galactus easiley and destroyed a couple dimentions... But have never shown higher features suporting him. Beyonder would take this pretty easiley.
The infinite's are a part of DCU's structure, Beyonder could manipulate it and change the structre, like he did to Marvel when he removed Death.
Anti-Life Equalation is not above the Infinity Gauntlet, Beyonder takes this as well.
The Queen of the 10th dimention's power is unknown, but we do know for sure that it's bellow Lucifer's and therefore bellow God's (Thanos with the heart)
That's how In see it.
I do not agree with this at all. Mxy in World's funnest was shown to have no limit. As he erased every thing and then set it back. How can just make a blanket statement as to the beyonder's power compared to that.Darkside said that a fraction of the ALE"S power was enough to control the entire Universe. MOre than enough. SO The full force of the ALE by no means is something the beyonder could trump so easily. The Queen of the tenth's eat entire dimensions. A dimension is bigger than a universe. it's an infinite multiverse. Crisis of the infinite earts happened to the entire 3rd dimension of DC. As shown that the new gods and the imps where not affected by the crisis. which means that the queen of the fifth eats multiverses for breakfast. I dont' see this guantlet as so clear cute and dry as ur trying to make it. And it takes vastly more power to create than to destroy. WIth that being said, not only could mxy destroy the Entire DCU multiverse, he recreated it, as if nothing happened. No one even remembered that it happened. That power is simply beyond the ultimate nullifier. Which can only destroy. NOt create. Galactus doesn't even have the power to remake the multi verse. And please show me on panel, thanos manipulating more than one universe. I want to see this. Cuz from where I'm remembering, the IG is not multiversal in power. If it were, Multi Eternity would have had something to say about it. It only makes one the God of the universe it's from. This is why Eternity didnt' like it. It made Thanos take his place. Not Multi eternity's place.
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
only makes one the God of the universe it's from. This is why Eternity didnt' like it. It made Thanos take his place. Not Multi eternity's place.
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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
If that would be the case... Thanos would look like a Eternity (a spawn from the Multi-Eternity) Not like he did himself.
Not even. The LT even said that the only reason eternity wanted the gems was for the fact that the wearer takes the place of eternity as the universe. Please don't act like I dont know what I'm talking about. Looks have nothing to do with Eternity's place in the universe. he could like like owne reece and still be the universe.
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not even. The LT even said that the only reason eternity wanted the gems was for the fact that the wearer takes the place of eternity as the universe. Please don't act like I dont know what I'm talking about. Looks have nothing to do with Eternity's place in the universe. he could like like owne reece and still be the universe.
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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So explain how Magus could affect universes outside the 616 and how the UN was infernor to the IG.
The UN only has the power to destroy. The IG could remake, and shape and mold. To be technical, The power of the Un was never released. We dont' know if the Magus could have deflected the blast or contained it or not. ALl we know is that the device was in a reality that he was controlling and being held by a very small being. The magus simply stopped the device from working and willed the user away.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The UN can remake as well, Reed did it.
Quasar is not a smal being, he is well aware of the Multi-verse.Make this thread: Thanos w/ IG vs Darkseid w/ ALE
And make it a poll, than you will get the true results.
NO I won't. I'll get a bunch of marvelites who will vote for who they know and who can't stand for DC to win any matches. PERIOD!!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO I won't. I'll get a bunch of marvelites who will vote for who they know and who can't stand for DC to win any matches. PERIOD!!
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I belive most of the members know what they talk about, for example:
Mr. Master know everyhing about the Anti-Life Equallation and everything about the Infinity Gauntlet, of course his statements will affect the votes.
A fraction of the Ale, can do every thing the IG did.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Whatever makes you sleep at night...
it's very simple, The emporer joker used mxy's power to remake the universe. Darksied said that the joker had found the ale. Later on darksied realizes that the ale is infinitely more powerful than he had previously thought. His first statement was that the ale was like mxy's power. which remade the entire universe. Youknow how you like to do those equations and such. it's simply. Emporer joker = what darskied that was the ALE. The true ALE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(infinitey)to Mxy's power. Mxy's power can unmake the multiverse. My pillow is never very comfortable.
