Pre Retcon Beyonder Runs the guantlet

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually he didnt. The editor at the time, NEVER retconned the kingdom. AFter the statment was made, there was even a superboy story where hypertime was used.

You forgot so soon my child...your rashness is your undoing.

The Kingdom is a two-issue comic book limited series and crossover event published by DC Comics in 1999, written by Mark Waid and drawn by Ariel Olivetti/Mike Zeck.

This is both a sequel and, in some ways, prequel to Kingdom Come, also by Mark Waid.

Both books form an Elseworlds saga,

and have nothing to do with the current DC Comics storylines

since dc decided to not use hypertime as you say, then why was the flash story Racing thru hypertime printed? The Superboy story Hyper Tension was also printed as well.

Originally posted by rotiart
In a interview with executive editor Dan Dido....

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/counseling7.html

Q: Post Crisis...So Hypertime doesn’t exist anymore?

DD: One world, with a new past and future. Everything essential has been blended together and is acknowledged as we move through a single continuity. Why would we need Hypertime?

Current continuity... all essential material has been blended together and acknowledged... hypertime does not exist...

So at one point Kingdom could have been incontinuity, while Hypertime was allowed.. but a new world.. a new timeline.. the essentials blended..... You really think that "Kingdom" was one of those essentials? 😉

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No that is not what was said. DC did not say it would no longer use this concept. get ur wording right. dont' twist it to fit. they said it would no longer be used from this point on. They didn't say anything about retconning it, or taking it back. they didnt' retconn it. which means it still holds true.

What holds true?

That Hypertime did exist once? And... my child? How does this make Elseworlds canon,

Both books form an Elseworlds saga,

and have nothing to do with the current DC Comics storylines

Elseworlds ALWAYS was NOT CANON, It was IN Elseworlds that Mxy performed the Feat you have come to defend so much.

Originally posted by Mr Master
What holds true?

That Hypertime did exist once? And... my child? How does this make Elseworlds canon,

Both books form an Elseworlds saga,

and have nothing to do with the current DC Comics storylines

Elseworlds ALWAYS was NOT CANON, It was IN Elseworlds that Mxy performed the Feat you have come to defend so much.

Oh so your saying the kingdome once made the story true. But since DC no longer prints any Kingdom stories, it is no longer true, Even tho DC won't retconn the story, they just choose not to use it anymore. HMM ok. Well Then pre retconn beyonder never had any power either. since he was tricked. mxy still beats the beyonder. Mxy still was able to leave the DCu and enter reality. and this my freind was cannon. it was part of a series of one shots that DCU published about it's villians. and all of those stories where true and continued into continuity. I STILL WIN!!!

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
since dc decided to not use hypertime as you say, then why was the flash story Racing thru hypertime printed? The Superboy story Hyper Tension was also printed as well.

We just showed you my boy but you would not relent.

They make stories NON-CANON for sentimental reason or as they put:

Although DC Comics has announced they will no longer use it as a concept, there are still groups who use it as "doctrine".

DO you know what "doctrine" means chid?

You jump up too soon my boy.

Originally posted by Mr Master
We just showed you my boy but you would not relent.

They make stories NON-CANON for sentimental reason or as they put:

Although DC Comics has announced they will no longer use it as a concept, there are still groups who use it as "doctrine".

DO you know what "doctrine" means chid?

You jump up too soon my boy.

And yet they never retconned it. They never said it didnt' happen or wasn't true. DC never ever does this.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Oh so your saying the kingdome once made the story true.But since DC no longer prints any Kingdom stories, it is no longer true, Even tho DC won't retconn the story, they just choose not to use it anymore. HMM ok. Well Then pre retconn beyonder never had any power either. since he was tricked. mxy still beats the beyonder. Mxy still was able to leave the DCu and enter reality. and this my freind was cannon. it was part of a series of one shots that DCU published about it's villians. and all of those stories where true and continued into continuity. I STILL WIN!!!

Your obtuseness leaves little choice.

Both books form an Elseworlds saga,

and have nothing to do with the current DC Comics storylines

Elseworlds ALWAYS was NOT CANON, It was IN Elseworlds that Mxy performed the Feat you have come to defend so much.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Your obtuseness leaves little choice.

Both books form an Elseworlds saga,

and have nothing to do with the current DC Comics storylines

Elseworlds ALWAYS was NOT CANON, It was IN Elseworlds that Mxy performed the Feat you have come to defend so much.

Ur so missing the point. When the kingdom was published, it made every single tale cannon. It made it all true. Every else world, every alternate earth. earth one, earth prime. all of it. IT WAS all true. What part of that are you missing. SO if DC suddenly decides not to use it any more, with out every saying it wasn't true, then where does that leave us. But basically i'm saying, if DC retconned the kingdom, which they didn't officially do, then what once was true is not any more. Which means the same rules apply to the beyonder reton. and that he never EVER had the power you all like to argu in his defense. mxy at least still has his power. the beyonder was tricked. his discription doesn't even count.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ur so missing the point. When the kingdom was published, it made every single tale cannon. It made it all true. Every else world, every alternate earth. earth one, earth prime. all of it. IT WAS all true. What part of that are you missing. SO if DC suddenly decides not to use it any more, with out every saying it wasn't true, then where does that leave us. But basically i'm saying, if DC retconned the kingdom, which they didn't officially do, then what once was true is not any more. Which means the same rules apply to the beyonder reton. and that he never EVER had the power you all like to argu in his defense. mxy at least still has his power. the beyonder was tricked. his discription doesn't even count.

The Kingdom is a two-issue comic book limited series and crossover event published by DC Comics in 1999, written by Mark Waid and drawn by Ariel Olivetti/Mike Zeck.

This is both a sequel and, in some ways, prequel to Kingdom Come, also by Mark Waid.

Both books form an Elseworlds saga,

and have nothing to do with the current DC Comics storylines

Elseworlds ALWAYS was NOT CANON, It was IN Elseworlds that Mxy performed the Feat you have come to defend so much.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ur so missing the point. When the kingdom was published, it made every single tale cannon. It made it all true. Every else world, every alternate earth. earth one, earth prime. all of it. IT WAS all true. What part of that are you missing. SO if DC suddenly decides not to use it any more, with out every saying it wasn't true, then where does that leave us. But basically i'm saying, if DC retconned the kingdom, which they didn't officially do, then what once was true is not any more. Which means the same rules apply to the beyonder reton. and that he never EVER had the power you all like to argu in his defense. mxy at least still has his power. the beyonder was tricked. his discription doesn't even count.

Scans from "Kingdom" comic saying that Mxy destroyed the multiverse please?

Originally posted by rotiart
Scans from "Kingdom" comic saying that Mxy destroyed the multiverse please?

Waid the writer says, the kingdom, made every single else world's tale, every single alternate reality, all true. The scans have been posted in another thread where mxy erased all of the uinverses. in the kingdom book, it showed all of the infinite earths, pieces of else world's tales. all of it. With that being said, the tale of mxy destroying the entire multiverse is also true.

Originally posted by rotiart
Scans from "Kingdom" comic saying that Mxy destroyed the multiverse please?

and yet you have never offered one single scan showing the beyonder doing any of the things we asked you to show. ur hippocrisy is astounding.

I never had to. Mr. master tends to flash those around for everyone.

If you'd been around lately, you'd have seen the feats, just look for any of the recent 100+ threads lately. 😛

Originally posted by rotiart
I never had to. Mr. master tends to flash those around for everyone.

If you'd been around lately, you'd have seen the feats, just look for any of the recent 100+ threads lately. 😛

none of those scans every showed me what I was looking for.

Originally posted by rotiart
I never had to. Mr. master tends to flash those around for everyone.

If you'd been around lately, you'd have seen the feats, just look for any of the recent 100+ threads lately. 😛

Originally posted by bigbran
Its called, I'de rather ignore evidence.

If I aske you to you to show me evidence that someone stole something from you, and you show me evidence of someone hitting oyu in the eye, you have indeed shown me evidence. but not what i requested. nuiff said.

Actually to clear a few things up, the kingdom line of comics is cannon, they were used and referenced to in two cannon and main continuity DC comics, Super boy, and Flash.

P.S. If you want exact volumes and numbers of the comics ask nvr

Originally posted by Jesse7
Actually to clear a few things up, the kingdom line of comics is cannon, they were used and referenced to in two cannon and main continuity DC comics, Super boy, and Flash.

P.S. If you want exact volumes and numbers of the comics ask nvr

But Hypertime isn't cannon anymore. So Elseworlds aren't cannon either.