Pre Retcon Beyonder Runs the guantlet

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
it's very simple, The emporer joker used mxy's power to remake the universe. Darksied said that the joker had found the ale. Later on darksied realizes that the ale is infinitely more powerful than he had previously thought. His first statement was that the ale was like mxy's power. which remade the entire universe. Youknow how you like to do those equations and such. it's simply. Emporer joker = what darskied that was the ALE. The true ALE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(infinitey)to Mxy's power. Mxy's power can unmake the multiverse. My pillow is never very comfortable.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Worlds funnest is an Elseworlds tale and as such is not considered part of the main DC canon/continuity.

Pre retcon beyonder is not considered part of the main marvel continuity. and yet you use it and back him up. According to the Comic called the KINGDOM. EVERY SINGLE DC comic in the else worlds is cannon. And since mxy destroyed ALL of the Multiverses in that comic, it counts for all of the comics since as per KINGDOM, they all exist and are reality. AND Since the imps exist out side of reality, there is no such thing as else worlds for them.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Pre retcon beyonder is not considered part of the main marvel continuity. and yet you use it and back him up. According to the Comic called the KINGDOM. EVERY SINGLE DC comic in the else worlds is cannon. And since mxy destroyed ALL of the Multiverses in that comic, it counts for all of the comics since as per KINGDOM, they all exist and are reality. AND Since the imps exist out side of reality, there is no such thing as else worlds for them.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Pre retcon beyonder is not considered part of the main marvel continuity. and yet you use it and back him up.

Your such a hater dude.

We refer to him as PRE-RETCON Beyonder to differentiate him from POST-RB.

They are TWO seperate characters in terms of level of power.

We do NOT however use STUPID, WHAT if issues to debate, and that's what Elseworlds is considered by DC's own representatives.

Pre-retcon Beyonder was a real character, and everything that happened up UNTIL the RETCON, was CANON...

By the way, Beyonder is still part of Marvel continuity.

Post-Retcon Beyonder (as the Maker) potentialy can implode the Universe on a whim:

And if Post-Retcon Beyonder dies, the MULTI-VERSE will collapse:

"to rend the Life Force of such a being as the Beyonder"

"Havoc unthinkable would be wrecked across Multiversal Cosmography"

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And since mxy destroyed ALL of the Multiverses in that comic, it counts for all of the comics since as per KINGDOM,

It was ONE Multi-verse...but nice try.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
AND Since the imps exist out side of reality, there is no such thing as else worlds for them.

You should of warned us you work for DC, you got inside info.

The public has been lead to believe otherwise.

ps. I'm not going to indulge your vain attempts at knocking Beyonder, your defiance is laughable.

For the record:

Beyonder blinks everyone away and either stalemates THOTU, or takes that down too.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Your such a hater dude.

We refer to him as PRE-RETCON Beyonder to differentiate him from POST-RB.

They are TWO seperate characters in terms of level of power.

We do NOT however use STUPID, WHAT if issues to debate, and that's what Elseworlds is considered by DC's own representatives.

Pre-retcon Beyonder was a real character, and everything that happened up UNTIL the RETCON, was CANON...

By the way, Beyonder is still part of Marvel continuity.

Post-Retcon Beyonder (as the Maker) potentialy can implode the Universe on a whim:

And if Post-Retcon Beyonder dies, the MULTI-VERSE will collapse:

"to rend the Life Force of such a being as the Beyonder"

"Havoc unthinkable would be wrecked across Multiversal Cosmography"

It was ONE Multi-verse...but nice try.

You should of warned us you work for DC, you got inside info.

The public has been lead to believe otherwise.

ps. I'm not going to indulge your vain attempts at knocking Beyonder, your defiance is laughable.

For the record:

Beyonder blinks everyone away and either stalemates THOTU, or takes that down too.

ur fan boyism showns thru. it's ok to use pre retcon beyonder butnot World's funnest mxy? Something stinks around here. And then the only thing you think can stalemate the beyonder is yet another Marvel Creation. Yeah right i'm a fanboy. But you are holding marvel's jock strap!!

And they pick on me for calling people fanboys...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
ur fan boyism showns thru. it's ok to use pre retcon beyonder butnot World's funnest mxy? Something stinks around here. And then the only thing you think can stalemate the beyonder is yet another Marvel Creation. Yeah right i'm a fanboy. But you are holding marvel's jock strap!!

GBE should be included in this gauntlet.

I'd have better reason to believe you if you could post this comic from "The Kingdom" for me.

From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingdom_%28comics%29

The Kingdom is a two-issue comic book limited series and crossover event published by DC Comics in 1999, written by Mark Waid and drawn by Ariel Olivetti/Mike Zeck. This is both a sequel and, in some ways, prequel to Kingdom Come, also by Mark Waid. Both books form an Elseworlds saga, and have nothing to do with the current DC Comics storylines. The storyline extended into one-shot books entitled Gog, The Kingdom: Kid Flash, The Kingdom: Nightstar, The Kingdom: Offspring, The Kingdom: Planet Krypton, and The Kingdom: Son of the Bat. The entire storyline was later collected into a trade paperback.

And from wikipedia also: Kingdom Come:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Come_%28comic%29#Effects_on_mainstream_continuity

Due to the popularity of the series it was suggested that DC attempt to steer the DCU towards the world depicted in Kingdom Come. This was dismissed, but Alex Ross began work on a prequel titled Kingdom (see below) that would address how certain characters came to be (including the new Wildcat) and tie mainstream continuity to that shown in Kingdom Come. Due to a falling out with co-creator Mark Waid, Ross's series was never produced and Waid produced the prequel/sequel The Kingdom without any input from Ross.

Since the publication of Kingdom Come, some of its elements have found their way into the mainstream continuity:

Kingdom and Kingdom Come are cannon?

Originally posted by rotiart
I'd have better reason to believe you if you could post this comic from "The Kingdom" for me.

From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingdom_%28comics%29

The Kingdom is a two-issue comic book limited series and crossover event published by DC Comics in 1999, written by Mark Waid and drawn by Ariel Olivetti/Mike Zeck. This is both a sequel and, in some ways, prequel to Kingdom Come, also by Mark Waid. Both books form an Elseworlds saga, and have nothing to do with the current DC Comics storylines. The storyline extended into one-shot books entitled Gog, The Kingdom: Kid Flash, The Kingdom: Nightstar, The Kingdom: Offspring, The Kingdom: Planet Krypton, and The Kingdom: Son of the Bat. The entire storyline was later collected into a trade paperback.

And from wikipedia also: Kingdom Come:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Come_%28comic%29#Effects_on_mainstream_continuity

Due to the popularity of the series it was suggested that DC attempt to steer the DCU towards the world depicted in Kingdom Come. This was dismissed, but Alex Ross began work on a prequel titled Kingdom (see below) that would address how certain characters came to be (including the new Wildcat) and tie mainstream continuity to that shown in Kingdom Come. Due to a falling out with co-creator Mark Waid, Ross's series was never produced and Waid produced the prequel/sequel The Kingdom without any input from Ross.

Since the publication of Kingdom Come, some of its elements have found their way into the mainstream continuity:

Kingdom and Kingdom Come are cannon?

Finally, the light has arrived.

We'll see. 😉

Originally posted by rotiart
We'll see. 😉

Dude, that guy has been driving me crazy with his Mxy claim.

You have just complete eradicated his whole argument.

Its wiki. He might say wiki isn't cannon or something.

I've been saying for the longest time... Elseworlds is not cannon! And in any case... how do I know Mxy didn't cause an illusion of destroying the multiverse... cause the spectre wanted him to believe he could do it... or something ala LT to beyonder. 😉

In any case, he hasn't provided any scans of his proof. If he did, I'd be less inclined to argue.

This isn't even like GS vs. you. At least GS fought like a champ for what he believed in. 🙂

Thanos with the HOTU isnt canon. What is the difference if he wants to use a non-canon Mr Mxy.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Thanos with the HOTU isnt canon. What is the difference if he wants to use a non-canon Mr Mxy.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Thanos with the HOTU isnt canon. What is the difference if he wants to use a non-canon Mr Mxy.

Because thats what he's been arguing if you go thread hopping.
That Mxy destroying the multiverse was cannon. He can use Xmas special Squirrel Girl for all I care... Or what If Silver Surfer Infinity Gauntlet.. what I was stating is....

I don't know how to quote multiple texts...
so this is from neverbeenwithagirl if you look a few posts above:

Pre retcon beyonder is not considered part of the main marvel continuity. and yet you use it and back him up. According to the Comic called the KINGDOM. EVERY SINGLE DC comic in the else worlds is cannon. And since mxy destroyed ALL of the Multiverses in that comic, it counts for all of the comics since as per KINGDOM, they all exist and are reality. AND Since the imps exist out side of reality, there is no such thing as else worlds for them.

So what I was saying is "Kingdom" says Elseworlds is cannon....

But "Kingdom" itself is stated as a noncannon crossover...

This is more an arguement over cannon and noncannon now to me, than who's more powerful. 😱

Originally posted by bigbran
Yes it was!
It happened in the 616 universe. Where did you get this from anyway?

X-men: The End - is a what if.
Punisher: The End - is a what if.
Hulk: The End - is a what if.

why would that be canon when none of the other The End's arent?

Originally posted by thedude1948
X-men: The End - is a what if.
Punisher: The End - is a what if.
Hulk: The End - is a what if.

why would that be canon when none of the other The End's arent?

Originally posted by bigbran
Marvel: The End, was, so your arguement is invalid.

"Someone else answered this later, but just so you get it from me as well: MARVEL UNIVERSE: THE END is an out of continuity story."

You know who said this? Andy Schmidt the Editor of Marvel Annihilation.

Originally posted by rotiart
He can use Xmas special Squirrel Girl for all I care.

Hey, but that is canon!