Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet versus Darkseid with the Anti-Life Equallation

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
so, since we know that the ALE is above mxy's power, so is therefore above the UN. but we do not know to what extent the ALE exceeds mx's power, therefore we do not know how it compares to the IG except for the fact that it is in the same ballpark...

am i right?

IG & UN are both above ALE

ALE equation was defeated by Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen

Long enough to prevail!

"The threat of the ALE is forever ended"....."how"

the bridging Dimension between our Reality and it's has been eradicated"

UN Remade the Multi-verse

IG made the UN it's b*tch

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
lol, so we came to the conclusion that the mxy's power is comparable to that of the UN which was not powerful enough to stop the incomplete IG weilded by magus. and because the incomplete IG had the power to influence the multiverse, we also know that the complete IG has mulitversal capability.

so, since we know that the ALE is above mxy's power, so is therefore above the UN. but we do not know to what extent the ALE exceeds mx's power, therefore we do not know how it compares to the IG except for the fact that it is in the same ballpark...

am i right?

Mxyzptlk power was a fraction compared to the Equallation

The Nullifier was nothing Compared to a incomplete Gauntlet.

UN > Multiverse
Mxy > Multi-verse

I-IG >> UN
ALE >> Mxy

haha, thats why i posted that.

i still say, that as far as we can compare, both of them exceed the things that they are comparable too, so at this point, in my mind the two are still about equal for all intents and purposes.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Pretty much, UN could destroy and recreate the Multi-verse.
So could Mxyzptlk.

Mxyzptlk power was a fraction compared to the Equallation

The Nullifier was nothing Compared to a incomplete Gauntlet.

UN > Multiverse
Mxy > Multi-verse

I-IG >> UN
ALE >> Mxy

You forgot Dr Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen > ALE

Which means:

Dr Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen > Mxy

Dr Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen > UN

Originally posted by Mr Master
IG & UN are both above ALE

ALE equation was defeated by Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen

Long enough to prevail!

"The threat of the ALE is forever ended"....."how"

the bridging Dimension between our Reality and it's has been eradicated"

UN Remade the Multi-verse

IG made the UN it's b*tch

i see what you are saying, and i don't really get it either...

why is the ALE such a threat if all it took to put it out of comission was to trap it in a universe alone...

is it because the ALE is too stupid to get out of the universe or realize that it can still affect other universes, or because the ALE simply isn't capable of using its multiversal influence from that universe?

Originally posted by Mr Master
You forgot Dr Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen > ALE

Which means:

Dr Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen > Mxy

Dr Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen > UN

but would that mean that they are equal to the LT?

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
why is the ALE such a threat if all it took to put it out of comission was to trap it in a universe alone...

Because it isn't such a threat.

It was only threatening ONE Universe in that series, people that didn't read the comic were the ones exaggerating, making it out to be SO powerful.

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
is it because the ALE is too stupid to get out of the universe

It knows it's limitations, and it was trying to get around them.

"I now understand what the Anti-Life Force is upto"

ALE has been PLANNING it's escape for a MILLENNIUM

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
or realize that it can still affect other universes,

It will DIE, if it enters another Universe

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
or because the ALE simply isn't capable of using its multiversal influence from that universe?

It's Aspects yes.

But 4 of it's Aspects were defeated by heroes no bigger than Superman and 7 others.

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
but would that mean that they are equal to the LT?

I'm being sarcastic.

LT, UN, and IG are ALL ABOVE:

ALE, Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen and Mxy (who only has a fraction of ALE's power)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Because it isn't such a threat.

It was only threatening ONE Universe in that series, people that didn't read the comic were the ones exaggerating, making it out to be SO powerful.

It knows it's limitations, and it was trying to get around them.

"I now understand what the Anti-Life Force is upto"

YOU SAID, "becuz it doesn't know how to get to them"

ALE has been PLANNING it's escape for a MILLENNIUM

YOU SAID, ""becuz it doesn't know how to get to them"

It will DIE, if it enters another Universe

It's Aspects yes.

But 4 of it's Aspects were defeated by heroes no bigger than Superman and 7 others.

so, in all reality, the ALE doesn't even have all that much clout when compared to things like the UN. In fact, from what you are saying, the ALE, is like a overhyped, dc UN, that can act as an entity...

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
so, in all reality, the ALE doesn't even have all that much clout when compared to things like the UN. In fact, from what you are saying, the ALE, is like a overhyped, dc UN, that can act as an entity...

It's power is NOT even Multiversal.

It can't escape it's realm.

ALE is a joke, in the presence of the UN, IG or LT

Well then it is settled.

the IG is more powerful than the ALE.

le tada.

OK let's put this to rest. The ALE is vastly more powerful than anything we have seen in comics. The only reason it is trapped is becuz it lacks the knowlege to get out. Power and Knowlege do not always go hand in hand.

Let's put it this way, With the myx's power, the joker turned the universe on it's ear and remade it in his image. Impressive.

This same power, wielded by mxy, erased the Multi verse and put it back together again. Much much more impressive. the same power source, one just knew how to use it.

with that being said, the ALE itself is exceedingly powerful, but it lacks the knowlege to even escape from it's reality. Hell The brothers of DC and marvel didnt' even know each other existed. They lacked knowlege, but not power. The argument that the source cannot escape it's prison is not enough to say that it is weak and not more powerful than the IG, or the beyonder or anyone. Superboy prime is stuck in a prison right now. Thor would be able to escape the same prison becuz of his knowlege and how to use his hammer to teleport out. Can thor beat Superboy prime? no. Is he more knowlegeable in a certain area than sbp? yes. I stand by my opinion that I am right and that pretty scans of characters shaking in thier boots dont' mean a thing to me. Thanos stating what he is dont' mean a thing to me. Becuz when ever something is stated about a DC character, it is easily discredited by marvel jock holders. YOu all are pretty much pathetic. You never prove any points. All you do is scratch each other nuts and then say you won a debate. when clearly if some outside party where to come in and read our debates, you all would have lost.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OK let's put this to rest. The ALE is vastly more powerful than anything we have seen in comics. The only reason it is trapped is becuz it lacks the knowlege to get out. Power and Knowlege do not always go hand in hand.

Let's put it this way, With the myx's power, the joker turned the universe on it's ear and remade it in his image. Impressive.

This same power, wielded by mxy, erased the Multi verse and put it back together again. Much much more impressive. the same power source, one just knew how to use it.

with that being said, the ALE itself is exceedingly powerful, but it lacks the knowlege to even escape from it's reality. Hell The brothers of DC and marvel didnt' even know each other existed. They lacked knowlege, but not power. The argument that the source cannot escape it's prison is not enough to say that it is weak and not more powerful than the IG, or the beyonder or anyone. Superboy prime is stuck in a prison right now. Thor would be able to escape the same prison becuz of his knowlege and how to use his hammer to teleport out. Can thor beat Superboy prime? no. Is he more knowlegeable in a certain area than sbp? yes. I stand by my opinion that I am right and that pretty scans of characters shaking in thier boots dont' mean a thing to me. Thanos stating what he is dont' mean a thing to me. Becuz when ever something is stated about a DC character, it is easily discredited by marvel jock holders. YOu all are pretty much pathetic. You never prove any points. All you do is scratch each other nuts and then say you won a debate. when clearly if some outside party where to come in and read our debates, you all would have lost.

i love to scratch balls.

if anybody not involved is reading this, please note that all who argue for thanos and the IG are ball scratchers.

thanks for your input nvrbeenwthagirl.

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
i love to scratch balls.

if anybody not involved is reading this, please note that all who argue for thanos and the IG are ball scratchers.

thanks for your input nvrbeenwthagirl.

None of you have argued for Thanos as none of you have presented a sufficiant enough argument to merit anything. You backing each other up and putting down the feats of other characters to try and make a point does not in any discredit anything that we have said. NOt one single person on UR side has presented anything to discredit what we have said. And the reason they haven't done so is becuz they try to use an arugment to discredit us and then turn around and use the same point to try and prove thier point. Terrible debaters. PRetty pictures do not make for a good argument.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
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None of you have argued for Thanos as none of you have presented a sufficiant enough argument to merit anything. You backing each other up and putting down the feats of other characters to try and make a point does not in any discredit anything that we have said. NOt one single person on UR side has presented anything to discredit what we have said. And the reason they haven't done so is becuz they try to use an arugment to discredit us and then turn around and use the same point to try and prove thier point. Terrible debaters. PRetty pictures do not make for a good argument.

i'm curious as to whether you have read the thread at all...

we logically came to the conclusion that the IG is above, or at the very least as powerful as the ALE as far as we can tell, and from the inference that Mr. Master made, you can see that, the fact that the ALE is contained so easily takes away from it's potency.

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
i'm curious as to whether you have read the thread at all...

we logically came to the conclusion that the IG is above, or at the very least as powerful as the ALE as far as we can tell, and from the inference that Mr. Master made, you can see that, the fact that the ALE is contained so easily takes away from it's potency.

We did not all come to that conclusion. I didtn'. And The fact that the Ultimate Nullifier can't be used unless someone fires it doest take from it's potensy does it? it's still vastly powerful. SO no, I'm not in agreement. The Ale is sentinent, but so are ducks. The ALE does not have the knowlege to use it's own power. PERIOD.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
We did not all come to that conclusion. I didtn'. And The fact that the Ultimate Nullifier can't be used unless someone fires it doest take from it's potensy does it? it's still vastly powerful. SO no, I'm not in agreement. The Ale is sentinent, but so are ducks. The ALE does not have the knowlege to use it's own power. PERIOD.

How do you know what type of knowledge and power it possesses?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
with that being said, the ALE itself is exceedingly powerful, but it lacks the knowlege to even escape from it's reality. Hell The brothers of DC and marvel didnt' even know each other existed. They lacked knowlege, but not power. The argument that the source cannot escape it's prison is not enough to say that it is weak and not more powerful than the IG, or the beyonder or anyone. Superboy prime is stuck in a prison right now. Thor would be able to escape the same prison becuz of his knowlege and how to use his hammer to teleport out. Can thor beat Superboy prime? no. Is he more knowlegeable in a certain area than sbp? yes. I stand by my opinion that I am right and that pretty scans of characters shaking in thier boots dont' mean a thing to me. Thanos stating what he is dont' mean a thing to me. Becuz when ever something is stated about a DC character, it is easily discredited by marvel jock holders. YOu all are pretty much pathetic. You never prove any points. All you do is scratch each other nuts and then say you won a debate. when clearly if some outside party where to come in and read our debates, you all would have lost.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
None of you have argued for Thanos as none of you have presented a sufficiant enough argument to merit anything. You backing each other up and putting down the feats of other characters to try and make a point does not in any discredit anything that we have said. NOt one single person on UR side has presented anything to discredit what we have said. And the reason they haven't done so is becuz they try to use an arugment to discredit us and then turn around and use the same point to try and prove thier point. Terrible debaters. PRetty pictures do not make for a good argument.

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
How do you know what type of knowledge and power it possesses?

How do we know it wasn't powerful enough to escape? It never said on panel that the AlE wasn't powerful enough to escape.