Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet versus Darkseid with the Anti-Life Equallation

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl18 pages

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
It matters not if they impressed you. The Abstracts in Marvel 616 were below the IG.

[b]IG is multiversal, and there is only one in all existance. Alternate realities means that Thanos lived out other realities, other than the prime one presented in IG saga.

It has already been proven that IG is multiversal, so seriously dude, lay off. Where do you get your conclusions from ?

Not in this case.

If Thanos only had the Power, Time, and Space Gems, than yes, he would lose his will.

But with the full IG, Thanos has the Mind, Soul, and Reality Gems as well. With those 3, he would certainly retain his will.

-The Mind Gems gives him full control all everything mental, including will power. Free Will is subject to the mind Gem.

-Soul Gem allows Thanos to retain his individuality, and possess the essence of others. He will not lose his will, when he has power over the soul itself.

-Reality Gem breaks the rules. ALE will have no power over Thanos's will, because he already has control of reality (of what is real and what is not). His will becomes manifest, all rules are broken. ALE will have no bearing on Reality Gem, for the Reality Gem would leave Thanos immune to mind control.

So sorry...your theory is a weak one.

Wrong 👇

I already explained why above.

But so far, by feats, and in terms of what we know, IG is superior.

WRONG AGAIN BRO 👇

Destruction of Everything= Ultamate Nullifier

IG>>>>>>> UN

👇 Try Again [/B]


Sigh this post fails on so many levels. first of all, The UN is not the destruction of everything. It's the destructor of one multiverse and it resets. It isn't the end of everything. It's not entropy or the end even after death. And I see nothing the IG has done that is on par with the UN. And I wasn't comparing the UN to the IG anyway. I was saying the destruction of all ALE>>>>> Control over all ( IG). Which it isn't even control over all in my mind. It certainly hasn't owned anything multiversal. As for Thanos using the IG to protect himself from the ALE's will sapping power, that would require him to know the life equation. The IG doesn't grant infinite wisdom or info.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sigh this post fails on so many levels. first of all, The UN is not the destruction of everything.

Oh forgive my technicality superior one 🙄

The Ultamate Nullifier only destroys multiverses, how insignificant (considering Micheal and Lucifer have multiversal level power) 🙄

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's the destructor of one multiverse and it resets. It isn't the end of everything. It's not entropy or the end even after death.

Yet, the UN can destroy Death....hmmm.....

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And I see nothing the IG has done that is on par with the UN.

THE IG CONTROLLED THE UN

How...many...times...do....we...need...to...repeat.....that ?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And I wasn't comparing the UN to the IG anyway. I was saying the destruction of all ALE>>>>> Control over all ( IG).

ALE is the Destruction of all ? I thought it controls free will 😕

So which is it ?

Does that mean ALE can destroy Lucifer ? Can it destroy the Source ? Can it destroy Spectre ?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Which it isn't even control over all in my mind. It certainly hasn't owned anything multiversal.

The IG has already performed several multiversal feats. How many times are we going to go through this ?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As for Thanos using the IG to protect himself from the ALE's will sapping power, that would require him to know the life equation. The IG doesn't grant infinite wisdom or info.

First of all the IG grants omniscience. IT does not grant wisdom, that is true, but with the MIND GEM Thanos would be able to enter Darksied's mind and know the ALE.

Not that he would even even need to.

I already explained, with the Soul, Mind, and Reality Gems at Thanos' possession, the ALE's mind control will be rendered useless.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Oh forgive my technicality superior one 🙄

The Ultamate Nullifier only destroys multiverses, how insignificant (considering Micheal and Lucifer have multiversal level power) 🙄

Yet, the UN can destroy Death....hmmm.....

[b]THE IG CONTROLLED THE UN

How...many...times...do....we...need...to...repeat.....that ?

ALE is the Destruction of all ? I thought it controls free will 😕

So which is it ?

Does that mean ALE can destroy Lucifer ? Can it destroy the Source ? Can it destroy Spectre ?

The IG has already performed several multiversal feats. How many times are we going to go through this ?

First of all the IG grants omniscience. IT does not grant wisdom, that is true, but with the MIND GEM Thanos would be able to enter Darksied's mind and know the ALE.

Not that he would even even need to.

I already explained, with the Soul, Mind, and Reality Gems at Thanos' possession, the ALE's mind control will be rendered useless. [/B]

Your entire post smacks of lack of knowlege, bias and rediculous logic. First of all, The IG pwning the UN is NOT multiversal. Unless you think Wonder Woman redirecting the Greek God's power back onto themselves, or Her Redircting the Omega back onto ds makes her skyfather. Quasar says out of his mouth that if he isn't careful he might destroy the UNIVERSE. not Multiverse. Quasar must have had the UN set on universal destroying power. As a matter of fact, Reed would know how to operate the UN to the NTH degree over quasar. so that bullshit logic that some have come up with falls short under scrutiny. Also, with complete control over the mind, space, and time, one could easily turn the UNIVERSES most devastating weapon upon the bearer. AS we know if you **** up, you end up killing yourself. Mind gem for the win. Or Space gem for the win as the blast is simply turned around and quasar is put in the path of the beam. All that other bullshit is less likely given my SUPERIOR analysis of what likely happened. ESPECIALLy since the magus calls it the UNIVERSES most devastating weapon and Quasar says, I might destroy the UNIVERSE.

Also let me debunk your rediculous and absolutely dumb founded claim that michael and lucifer are only multiversal. LMAO.

Michael's power not only created ALL that yaweh had created, it also sustained all of creation. How the **** is that multiversal when Lucifer and God talked amongst an infinite number of multiverses when they stepped out side of the one creation? Lucifer thought God only had a multiverse, and thus took what michael gave him and fashioned it as such. He could have easily shaped it into a universe or an omniverse. Since you know, lucifer is actually Gods will manifest. And God's will is what made the ****ing Omniverse that they talked in in the first place.

And now you say that The ALE would be rendered Useless? LMAO. The ALE isn't just some control thing and who says that the IG would render it useless when it has the power to control multiversal beings, anyone who isn't God. Any Living thing. Saying the ALE would be rendered Useless is biased as there is no proof that it would be. We have no way of knowing for sure if Thanos could resist it. But it matters not, The ALE has many more uses and powers than Just the loss of free will.

why is everyone typing gigantic words?

the ale could not defeat the ig for these following reasons.

1ig has proven how powerful it is
2it is to versatile for the ale
3 the mind and sould gem could accomplish what the ale does anyway
4ale doesnt have the feats to stand up to the ig
5 orion lost to a fake black racer with the ale

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sigh this post fails on so many levels. first of all, The UN is not the destruction of everything. It's the destructor of one multiverse and it resets. It isn't the end of everything. It's not entropy or the end even after death. And I see nothing the IG has done that is on par with the UN. And I wasn't comparing the UN to the IG anyway. I was saying the destruction of all ALE>>>>> Control over all ( IG). Which it isn't even control over all in my mind. It certainly hasn't owned anything multiversal. As for Thanos using the IG to protect himself from the ALE's will sapping power, that would require him to know the life equation. The IG doesn't grant infinite wisdom or info.
if the un was above the ig all they would have had to do is use it. but its useless against the ig. all thanos would have to do if it made an impact is think it out of existence. it would be that simple.

the ig>>>ale

Originally posted by quanchi112
why is everyone typing gigantic words?

the ale could not defeat the ig for these following reasons.

1ig has proven how powerful it is
2it is to versatile for the ale
3 the mind and sould gem could accomplish what the ale does anyway
4ale doesnt have the feats to stand up to the ig
5 orion lost to a fake black racer with the ale

got to agree with #4 the ALE in theory would beat the IG but the feats don't add up.

Wait, unless Im wrong, he is saying the UN is better than the IG? Wow, just wow. ANYWAY with a snap of his fingers Thanos killed half the life in the universe. With the same snap he could take it all out, or reformed it all. The only limit to the IG is the imagination of the user. Its the most powerful item in comics because it was written to be.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Wait, unless Im wrong, he is saying the UN is better than the IG? Wow, just wow. ANYWAY with a snap of his fingers Thanos killed half the life in the universe. With the same snap he could take it all out, or reformed it all. The only limit to the IG is the imagination of the user. Its the most powerful item in comics because it was written to be.
yes the ig>>>>then the un.

i dont know how anyone could argue that the un is more powerful?

Originally posted by bats2jm
got to agree with #4 the ALE in theory would beat the IG but the feats don't add up.
thanoswas better with time than the god of time in marvel. so thanos would retain his free will with the ig gems and it would have no power over him.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Wait, unless Im wrong, he is saying the UN is better than the IG? Wow, just wow. ANYWAY with a snap of his fingers Thanos killed half the life in the universe. With the same snap he could take it all out, or reformed it all. The only limit to the IG is the imagination of the user. Its the most powerful item in comics because it was written to be.

Worlogog anyone? Genesis Box? The Hand of God also know as the Oan power battery anyone? Most powerful Item in comics?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your entire post smacks of lack of knowlege, bias and rediculous logic. First of all, The IG pwning the UN is NOT multiversal. Unless you think Wonder Woman redirecting the Greek God's power back onto themselves, or Her Redircting the Omega back onto ds makes her skyfather. Quasar says out of his mouth that if he isn't careful he might destroy the UNIVERSE. not Multiverse. Quasar must have had the UN set on universal destroying power. As a matter of fact, Reed would know how to operate the UN to the NTH degree over quasar. so that bullshit logic that some have come up with falls short under scrutiny. Also, with complete control over the mind, space, and time, one could easily turn the UNIVERSES most devastating weapon upon the bearer. AS we know if you **** up, you end up killing yourself. Mind gem for the win. Or Space gem for the win as the blast is simply turned around and quasar is put in the path of the beam. All that other bullshit is less likely given my SUPERIOR analysis of what likely happened. ESPECIALLy since the magus calls it the UNIVERSES most devastating weapon and Quasar says, I might destroy the UNIVERSE.

Also let me debunk your rediculous and absolutely dumb founded claim that michael and lucifer are only multiversal. LMAO.

Michael's power not only created ALL that yaweh had created, it also sustained all of creation. How the **** is that multiversal when Lucifer and God talked amongst an infinite number of multiverses when they stepped out side of the one creation? Lucifer thought God only had a multiverse, and thus took what michael gave him and fashioned it as such. He could have easily shaped it into a universe or an omniverse. Since you know, lucifer is actually Gods will manifest. And God's will is what made the ****ing Omniverse that they talked in in the first place.

And now you say that The ALE would be rendered Useless? LMAO. The ALE isn't just some control thing and who says that the IG would render it useless when it has the power to control multiversal beings, anyone who isn't God. Any Living thing. Saying the ALE would be rendered Useless is biased as there is no proof that it would be. We have no way of knowing for sure if Thanos could resist it. But it matters not, The ALE has many more uses and powers than Just the loss of free will.

FIRST OF ALL....

You seriously need to calm the **** down....

Secondly, you make so many claims without providing references or scans. I atleast reference where I get my information from. I will tell you what to read, which issue, what page, what quote. I'll even provide links when necessary, links to either the respect thread, or links to pages/pics/info.etc.

You have no right speaking to another member with such a disgusting tactic. Please cut the crap. Debate like a human being, or don't debate at all, but seriously, your attitude is the most disgusting I've come across in the comic book forums.

Now, that I've gotten that outta the way:

Infinity Gauntlet is ATLEAST multiversal in power because:

-It controlled and turned off the energies of the Ultamate Nullifier which IS multiversal in power.

-The Watcher had to get involved to convince Reed Richards not to use the IG, in the Illuminati series. The Watcher never got involved in the case where someone used the UN, or any other artifact.

-When Thanos had the IG he played out victories in alternate realities. The IG saga itself differentiates from the mainstream Silver Surfer series. If you read the Silver Surfer series, which took place during the IG saga, you would see that Thanos created an alternate reality/b], where Death loved him, where he defeated everyone in existance, even Adam Warlock, and he created the world Necronos, where he sacraficed the entire universe in honor to death.

[b]THERE IS ONLY ONE IG IN EXISTANCE meaning that this feat was a MULTIVERSAL ONE

-Thanos claimed he has power over all universes. The claim may or may not be absolutely true, but it's there in Marvel writing.

-Magus influenced 616 reality from many realities away with an
INCOMPLETE IG
. Get over it already 👇

And if you still want more feats, be my guest and feel free to check out the IG Respect Thread. IG is multiversal, so honestly bro, get over it already.

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AS for Lucifer and Micheal. In the entire series, never was there mention of an Omniverse. Creation is the only term used, and the creations in Lucifer only have the characteristics of being one universe.

However, since DC's cosmology makes out a universe and a multiverse to be the same thing, and since we have a scan of Lucifer claiming he created a multiverse, that's what we have to go by.

If you have mention of Yahweh creating an omniverse, then by all means, prove it. Please provide me with a scan, because you are the only person claiming he made an omniverse in VERTIGO.

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AS for the ALE, all we have are feats. Speculation about what the ALE is, isn't enough. So far, as far as we know, it destroys Free Will, and can destroy existance.

That isn't enough against the IG. The IG is far more versatile, and I have already explained why Thanos would not lose his will. You have not proven me wrong there 👇

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Worlogog anyone? Genesis Box? The Hand of God also know as the Oan power battery anyone? Most powerful Item in comics?
the heart is the most powerful amp in comics.

The heart debuted after the IG no?

Originally posted by redhotrash
The heart debuted after the IG no?
the heart trumped the ig.

the heart was after the ig.

So basically it was a case of "What can we make more powerful than the last thing we came out with". I hate it when writers do that. Then again it works I suppose, they did it for 300+ episodes of Dragon Ball Z and the anime nerds ate it up.

Originally posted by redhotrash
So basically it was a case of "What can we make more powerful than the last thing we came out with". I hate it when writers do that. Then again it works I suppose, they did it for 300+ episodes of Dragon Ball Z and the anime nerds ate it up.

Wasnt DBZ rediculous. but it was still fun tho. But basically they would do the same shit over and over and just hype it up with words.

ig wins this. it can do what the ale can do and then some and then some.

At least DBZ doesn't have Krillin manhandling SSJ3 Goku

*cough*Black Panther , Silver Surfer*cough*

Exactly, 10 episodes of them talking about how much more powerful the next bad guy is than the last. Same thing applies here. "Well we handled the infinity gauntlet, so whats to worry about?" "You dont understand, the hou is as strong as the IG....times 100"

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
At least DBZ doesn't have Krillin manhandling SSJ3 Goku

*cough*Black Panther , Silver Surfer*cough*


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