Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlno way. the ale would have no power over the ig. the god of time was outclassed and so would the ale. thanos could change darkseids free will with his mind and soul gems. its everything the ale is and more.
The ALE makes all living things lose thier will. So thanos would be no exception. The only way he can become abstract is if he did what he did when he became Eternity. then he would lose the IG.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
no way. the ale would have no power over the ig. the god of time was outclassed and so would the ale. thanos could change darkseids free will with his mind and soul gems. its everything the ale is and more.😉
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The ALE makes all living things lose thier will. So thanos would be no exception.
Untrue. 👇 Thanos having the Mind, Soul, and Reality Gems would be enough for him to retain his will power. Besides, Thanos had the power to control one's will with the IG.
-He told Mephisto he could easily bend Mistress Death to his will if he wanted, but he wanted her true love, not to make her his love slave.
-In an Alternate Reality, presented in Silver Surfer series during the IG saga, Thanos forced Mistress Death to LOVE HIM. He then created the world Necronos, where the entire universe went to get killed, reborn, and killed again, in honor to Death.
Also:
Power to Control Will <<<<< Power to Control Everything
Thus:
ALE <<<<<<<<<<<< IG
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The only way he can become abstract is if he did what he did when he became Eternity. then he would lose the IG.
I thought you and everyone who read Infinity Gauntlet knew what was actually happening there.
Let me remind you.
Thanos lost the IG, because he subconciously felt unworthy to carry it. He "let" Nebula take the Gauntlet away, leaving his body unpossessed. Adam Warlock explains this towards the end. Thanos defeated himself.
His act of switching places with Eternity was an excuse. Having the IG, he already had total control of the entire universe. Why would he need to switch with Eternity ? He didn't need to. Becoming one with the universe was an excuse he performed to purposely lose the IG.
Adam Warlock even made Thanos face the fact he never truly wanted it.
So No. Thanos w IG is above All Abstracts. He easily....may I repeat EASILY defeated the likes of:
-Chaos
-Order
-Celestials
-Galactus
-Mistress Love
-Master Hate
-Mistress Death
-Mephisto
-The Stranger
-Chronos
-Eternity
IG is above the Abstracts, same way it is above the Ultamate Nullifier.
End of Story.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
[b]Untrue. 👇 Thanos having the Mind, Soul, and Reality Gems would be enough for him to retain his will power. Besides, Thanos had the power to control one's will with the IG.-He told Mephisto he could easily bend Mistress Death to his will if he wanted, but he wanted her true love, not to make her his love slave.
-In an Alternate Reality, presented in Silver Surfer series during the IG saga, Thanos forced Mistress Death to LOVE HIM. He then created the world Necronos, where the entire universe went to get killed, reborn, and killed again, in honor to Death.
Also:
Power to Control Will <<<<< Power to Control Everything
Thus:
ALE <<<<<<<<<<<< IG
I thought you and everyone who read Infinity Gauntlet knew what was actually happening there.
Let me remind you.
Thanos lost the IG, because he subconciously felt unworthy to carry it. He "let" Nebula take the Gauntlet away, leaving his body unpossessed. Adam Warlock explains this towards the end. Thanos defeated himself.
His act of switching places with Eternity was an excuse. Having the IG, he already had total control of the entire universe. Why would he need to switch with Eternity ? He didn't need to. Becoming one with the universe was an excuse he performed to purposely lose the IG.
Adam Warlock even made Thanos face the fact he never truly wanted it.
So No. Thanos w IG is above All Abstracts. He easily....may I repeat EASILY defeated the likes of:
-Chaos
-Order
-Celestials
-Galactus
-Mistress Love
-Master Hate
-Mistress Death
-Mephisto
-The Stranger
-Chronos
-EternityIG is above the Abstracts, same way it is above the Ultamate Nullifier.
End of Story. [/B]
First off, The abstracts that Thanos beat aren't impressive to me. Nonoe were above universal. And since when does an alternate story of the IG count? That means that there are other ig's and it can only be universal since other ig's would be equal to the one. At any rate, Thanos' will is strong. But the point of the ale is you do not have any. So no matter how strong your will is, you can't fight. He wouldn't even have the will to use the gems to try and protect himself. At any rate, We don't know the full extent of the ALE. it has been shown to be more than just a will type of thing. And it has been shown to be the destructor of everything as well.
The destruction of everything>>>>>The power to control everything.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlthe ale has lost to a fake black racer.
First off, The abstracts that Thanos beat aren't impressive to me. Nonoe were above universal. And since when does an alternate story of the IG count? That means that there are other ig's and it can only be universal since other ig's would be equal to the one. At any rate, Thanos' will is strong. But the point of the ale is you do not have any. So no matter how strong your will is, you can't fight. He wouldn't even have the will to use the gems to try and protect himself. At any rate, We don't know the full extent of the ALE. it has been shown to be more than just a will type of thing. And it has been shown to be the destructor of everything as well.The destruction of everything>>>>>The power to control everything.
this is true. shows u how easy it can be to defeat the ale.
Originally posted by SpearofDestinythanos with the ig is above all this for sure while the ale hasnt defeated spectre or really any uber beings yet. so how can anyone give it a win over the ig which has proven what it is capable of.
[b]Untrue. 👇 Thanos having the Mind, Soul, and Reality Gems would be enough for him to retain his will power. Besides, Thanos had the power to control one's will with the IG.-He told Mephisto he could easily bend Mistress Death to his will if he wanted, but he wanted her true love, not to make her his love slave.
-In an Alternate Reality, presented in Silver Surfer series during the IG saga, Thanos forced Mistress Death to LOVE HIM. He then created the world Necronos, where the entire universe went to get killed, reborn, and killed again, in honor to Death.
Also:
Power to Control Will <<<<< Power to Control Everything
Thus:
ALE <<<<<<<<<<<< IG
I thought you and everyone who read Infinity Gauntlet knew what was actually happening there.
Let me remind you.
Thanos lost the IG, because he subconciously felt unworthy to carry it. He "let" Nebula take the Gauntlet away, leaving his body unpossessed. Adam Warlock explains this towards the end. Thanos defeated himself.
His act of switching places with Eternity was an excuse. Having the IG, he already had total control of the entire universe. Why would he need to switch with Eternity ? He didn't need to. Becoming one with the universe was an excuse he performed to purposely lose the IG.
Adam Warlock even made Thanos face the fact he never truly wanted it.
So No. Thanos w IG is above All Abstracts. He easily....may I repeat EASILY defeated the likes of:
-Chaos
-Order
-Celestials
-Galactus
-Mistress Love
-Master Hate
-Mistress Death
-Mephisto
-The Stranger
-Chronos
-EternityIG is above the Abstracts, same way it is above the Ultamate Nullifier.
End of Story. [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112
more than u obviously.😛
how tall is a new god in true form?
how strong does ww get when she wearst he guantlets of atlas?
What is the most powerful thing ww has deflected?
Who is thor's mother?
How many xmen were at illyana's funeral?
What is peter rasputins most powerful sibling's power and name?
How many issues did galactic storm run?
Who are starhawk's parents?
How many other Ig's are there?
How many Ale's are there?
Has DS ever killed an old God or promethian Giant?
what are the most poweful beings the JLA has ever fought?
Who were the original wild cats?
Who is appollo's husband?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl😆 this is ridiculous.
how tall is a new god in true form?how strong does ww get when she wearst he guantlets of atlas?
What is the most powerful thing ww has deflected?
Who is thor's mother?
How many xmen were at illyana's funeral?
What is peter rasputins most powerful sibling's power and name?
How many issues did galactic storm run?
Who are starhawk's parents?
How many other Ig's are there?
How many Ale's are there?
Has DS ever killed an old God or promethian Giant?
what are the most poweful beings the JLA has ever fought?
Who were the original wild cats?
Who is appollo's husband?
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WTF does the Wild Cats lineup have to do with this? They arent even the same damn company as these two. Might as well ask him who was the 3rd person to sign the declaration of independance. It'd be equally relevant. ANYWAY, to say that entire list is unimpressive is going too far. He beat the 3 principal forces of the Marvel Universe along with a ton of backup at the SAME TIME. The power of the gauntlet is so strong that Nebula, who was nuts AND brand new with the IG was able to do the same thing. I do feel the gauntlet would offer protection from the ALE (though who can say for sure?) and I feel its a lot more versatile.
Originally posted by redhotrashnice post.
WTF does the Wild Cats lineup have to do with this? They arent even the same damn company as these two. Might as well ask him who was the 3rd person to sign the declaration of independance. It'd be equally relevant. ANYWAY, to say that entire list is unimpressive is going too far. He beat the 3 principal forces of the Marvel Universe along with a ton of backup at the SAME TIME. The power of the gauntlet is so strong that Nebula, who was nuts AND brand new with the IG was able to do the same thing. I do feel the gauntlet would offer protection from the ALE (though who can say for sure?) and I feel its a lot more versatile.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First off, The abstracts that Thanos beat aren't impressive to me. Nonoe were above universal.
It matters not if they impressed you. The Abstracts in Marvel 616 were below the IG.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And since when does an alternate story of the IG count? That means that there are other ig's and it can only be universal since other ig's would be equal to the one.
IG is multiversal, and there is only one in all existance. Alternate realities means that Thanos lived out other realities, other than the prime one presented in IG saga.
It has already been proven that IG is multiversal, so seriously dude, lay off. Where do you get your conclusions from ?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
At any rate, Thanos' will is strong. But the point of the ale is you do not have any. So no matter how strong your will is, you can't fight.
Not in this case.
If Thanos only had the Power, Time, and Space Gems, than yes, he would lose his will.
But with the full IG, Thanos has the Mind, Soul, and Reality Gems as well. With those 3, he would certainly retain his will.
-The Mind Gems gives him full control all everything mental, including will power. Free Will is subject to the mind Gem.
-Soul Gem allows Thanos to retain his individuality, and possess the essence of others. He will not lose his will, when he has power over the soul itself.
-Reality Gem breaks the rules. ALE will have no power over Thanos's will, because he already has control of reality (of what is real and what is not). His will becomes manifest, all rules are broken. ALE will have no bearing on Reality Gem, for the Reality Gem would leave Thanos immune to mind control.
So sorry...your theory is a weak one.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He wouldn't even have the will to use the gems to try and protect himself.
Wrong 👇
I already explained why above.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
At any rate, We don't know the full extent of the ALE. it has been shown to be more than just a will type of thing. And it has been shown to be the destructor of everything as well.
But so far, by feats, and in terms of what we know, IG is superior.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The destruction of everything>>>>>The power to control everything.
WRONG AGAIN BRO 👇
Destruction of Everything= Ultamate Nullifier
IG>>>>>>> UN
👇 Try Again
Originally posted by SpearofDestinynice reasoning there spear.
It matters not if they impressed you. The Abstracts in Marvel 616 were below the IG.[b]IG is multiversal
, and there is only one in all existance. Alternate realities means that Thanos lived out other realities, other than the prime one presented in IG saga.It has already been proven that IG is multiversal, so seriously dude, lay off. Where do you get your conclusions from ?
Not in this case.
If Thanos only had the Power, Time, and Space Gems, than yes, he would lose his will.
But with the full IG, Thanos has the Mind, Soul, and Reality Gems as well. With those 3, he would certainly retain his will.
-The Mind Gems gives him full control all everything mental, including will power. Free Will is subject to the mind Gem.
-Soul Gem allows Thanos to retain his individuality, and possess the essence of others. He will not lose his will, when he has power over the soul itself.
-Reality Gem breaks the rules. ALE will have no power over Thanos's will, because he already has control of reality (of what is real and what is not). His will becomes manifest, all rules are broken. ALE will have no bearing on Reality Gem, for the Reality Gem would leave Thanos immune to mind control.
So sorry...your theory is a weak one.
Wrong 👇
I already explained why above.
But so far, by feats, and in terms of what we know, IG is superior.
WRONG AGAIN BRO 👇
Destruction of Everything= Ultamate Nullifier
IG>>>>>>> UN
👇 Try Again [/B]
it is very simple when u look at this indeed imo. with the ig we know whats its capable of and with one its all kinda speculation. until the ale does something impressive to even show that it could stand up to the ig imo it goes down hard to the ig.