Originally posted by h1a8
The invalid happenings in a fight can make the result invalid. Thus we can't go by results alone. Also character's must lose fights sometimes, even in their own comic. Otherwise they would get boring and sales would drop. But this has nothing to do with forum fights though.
If they ARE invalid happenings (not by way of yours or anyone elses bias but strictly invalid) then we can apply PIS to the event. You can't suppose that all results of comic book battles are invalid for the purpose of sales, it's ridiculous to omit them based on that alone.
Originally posted by h1a8
They can't dodge bullets. And there doesn't exist any canonical narrative or feat on panel that says they can. Good try though. Now they may have superhuman reflexes and speed and can see in a slower motion than us regular humans can but they are not fast enough to dodge a bullet after it is fired. Sorry, but this is the plain truth.
Again YES.... THEY.... CAN....
Wolverine has blocked the path of a bullet as it began to leave the berrel of a gun after the trigger had been pulled and the hammer came down, captain america has thrown his sheild in the path of a bullet after it'd been fired... Both say they can dodge bullets, both have been described to on panel by an objective third person narrative which again takes precedence over your opinion, and Wolverine has been described as dodging lazers and bullets by Spiderman (using his spider sense) and Daredevil (using his radar sense)... You're wrong and your insistance to assume they can't, your dictation that they haven't is only going to show how ignorant you are.
Originally posted by h1a8
Force=mass x acceleration and Spider-man can exert more force than both and Spider-man weighs less than both thus his acceleration must be alot greater than theirs. Otherwise, if his acceleration is equal or less than theirs then his force would be less than theirs since he weighs less. This alone proves Spider-man is faster. The other thing that proves it is the fact that Spider-man has dodged a bullet after the fire and the others didn't.
First of all real world physics doesn't outweigh comic book on panel evidence.. Again that's nice in theory but Spiderman ultimately hasn't been able to put this to the test.
Second.. uh yeah they have, restating a nu-uh argument doesn't make it admissable.
Originally posted by h1a8
PIS isn't the only thing that makes feats and outcomes invalid. The logically impossible also makes them invalid.
So you read comics because why again?
Originally posted by h1a8
It is impossible for spider-man to nonpurposely get hit by a slower moving enemy no matter how skill they are (unless they are hypnotizing him in the process). Why? Because Spider-man sees bullets at about 20mph and slower moving enemies not more than 1mph.
Bullshit... prove that he does... His spider sense is nice but the guy's been getting hit by slower opponents since the beginning of his career to today, including while he was being written by his creator.
You're again doing nothing but producing a fantasy of Spiderman, Wolvie, and Cap and demanding they be recognized over their comic book counter-parts... It don't work that way.
Originally posted by h1a8
This is like a very slow walker coming at you and you somehow don't get out of the way (you're mesmerize on how good they look). Add that to the fact that Spider-man has spider-sense that can jerk his body out of the way before the attack is thrown in addition to his great reflexes and speed.
Again, his speed is not comparatively better than either of them.. You still haven't proven it is.
His reflexes and spider sense are related but he's even admitted it's only an equalizer for his lack of formal training when up against high calibur fighters.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes they are. It is comic sense.
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I'm going to assume you meant "common sense"... something that went out the window the minute you started arguing for a character that got Spiderpowers from a radioactive bite.
Originally posted by h1a8
They have never dodged a bullet after the fire. And the fights are all invalid. Why? Because it is impossible for Spider-man to get hit by them, as proven earlier. Thus the fights didn't happen. You are looking at no more than dreams or illusions that can be easily retconned if the writers want to explain how Spider-man got hit by them.
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Oh so now the fights are inadmissable in their entirety?
And.... wow....
"I don't like it, it didn't happen"
Originally posted by h1a8
Show me. Logan seems alert to me. And it seems that a guy who is watching spiderman that has the ability to dodge bullets has a hard time with being easily webbed (in an embarrassing fashion).
Show you? You've not even read the comic you're citing as evidence have you?
Originally posted by h1a8
FORCE=MASS X ACCELERATION and Spider-man has dodged a bullet after the fire while the others never did.
Originally posted by h1a8 "You are looking at no more than dreams or illusions that can be easily retconned if the writers want to explain how Spider-man...."
Originally posted by h1a8
The outcome of a forum fight is.
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Originally posted by h1a8
Nah. By the existence of webbing their isn't one.
Lol "webbing pwnzzzrrrsss Cap and Loges!"
Even though this webbings done little to help him against them in the past....
Originally posted by h1a8
True. But not good enough to stop Spider-man from easily webbing him.
"true" So you admit your defection to this Hulk argument is nonsense.
Yet Spiderman's failed to capitalize on it before..
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes he has. It sure look like a full hit to me.
When?
