Originally posted by Master-Borg
true, but isn't every comic hero beyond human? even humans like Batman and Punisher do things every day that are beyond human.
When comparing to the real world, yes.
But Batman and the Punisher have always been slated as 'normal' humans. That's part of their appeal.
They're not superhuman by comic book standards.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
umm wolverine never in a single comic ever been implied or stated as any thing but beyond human.
Comically, peak human is beyond human.
Hell, in comics books (comically) athletic human is really peak human.
But you are at most half right. It has been implied that Wolverine is peak human at best (at strength, speed, reflexes, and agility only). There is a good chance that it was stated though (in some form). I wouldn't know as I haven't seen Wolverine's every appearance.
Originally posted by h1a8
Comically, peak human is beyond human.
Hell, in comics books (comically) athletic human is really peak human.]
Originally posted by h1a8
[B]But you are at most half right. It has been implied that Wolverine is peak human at best (at strength, speed, reflexes, and agility only). There is a good chance that it was stated though (in some form). I wouldn't know as I haven't seen Wolverine's every appearance.
wrong. Logan has in comics only ever been implied and stated as beyond human limits such as enchanced human.
sorry, but you won't be finding a single comic in which Logan is stated as peak-human. He has been stated as enchanced human or implied super human.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
sorry, but you won't be finding a single comic in which Logan is stated as peak-human. He has been stated as enchanced human or implied super human.
enhanced human doesn't mean much...if a guy takes steroids, he's technically an enhanced human.
Also, when has Logan ever been implied as super-human?
Originally posted by Master-Borg
enhanced human doesn't mean much...if a guy takes steroids, he's technically an enhanced human.Also, when has Logan ever been implied as super-human?
wrong. Comic wises an enhanced human is some one who is beyond the human limits.
Like when Logan was stated to have enhanced human strengnth, in other words inhuman strength or superhuman.
Which time lol? One of which is wolverine 31 to 33.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
wrong. Comic wises an enhanced human is some one who is beyond the human limits.Like when Logan was stated to have enhanced human strengnth, in other words inhuman strength or superhuman.
Which time lol? One of which is wolverine 31 to 33.
so is Kingpin enhanced human as well...cuz you know, he's stronger than Logan.
Wait, so Logan is actually stated to be 'superhuman'?
Originally posted by Master-Borg
so is Kingpin enhanced human as well...cuz you know, he's stronger than Logan.Wait, so Logan is actually stated to be 'superhuman'?
Wises Kingpin stronger then Wolverine again?
Logan has never in a comic been suggest as anything but beyond human physically. He never been stated or suggest in a comic as a peak-human.
hell his strength and durability were both chemically enchanced further by the weapon x program.
Not sure why you think this is so odd. His original disgn was to be spiderman level in ever way physically.
Though this was changed, he was never suposes to be anything, but physically beyond human limitations.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
ask Digi if you dont believe me, he'll tell you Kingpin is stronger than Logan.
Kingpin could be stronger then wolverine, but doubtful.
King pin is extremely stronger and completely muscle and at least peak-human strength, but given his feats and stated on panel accounts there nothign to suggest he beyond wolverine in strength.
let a lone other physicall abilities.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
dont underestimate him just because he looks fathe may be as fast and agile as Wolverine, considering he can keep up with Spiderman
..........are you kidding me? Do you not remeber the arguement we had a while back in which you thoguht kingpin was just some fat guy..........and I had to prove to you he was complete muscle........
He fought spiderman he never shown to be any were as fast or as agile. Nor does he feats come closes to wolverines. Spiderman also held back, do you remeber what happen in spidermans last fight with kingpin? He stomped him all over the places like he was a joke.
Kingpin is not in wolverines class in term of agility or speed or reflex.
Originally posted by Battlehammeroh that was you I debated with? I knew someone on KMC corrected my mistaken view about Kingpin being a fatass, thought it was someone else.
..........are you kidding me? Do you not remeber the arguement we had a while back in which you thoguht kingpin was just some fat guy..........and I had to prove to you he was complete muscle........He fought spiderman he never shown to be any were as fast or as agile. Nor does he feats come closes to wolverines. Spiderman also held back, do you remeber what happen in spidermans last fight with kingpin? He stomped him all over the places like he was a joke.
Kingpin is not in wolverines class in term of agility or speed or reflex.
Anyways, Spdierman recently stomped Kingpin, thats true...but Spidey was a 25 tonner at that point, so obviously hes much stronger.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
oh that was you I debated with? I knew someone on KMC corrected my mistaken view about Kingpin being a fatass, thought it was someone else.Anyways, Spdierman recently stomped Kingpin, thats true...but Spidey was a 25 tonner at that point, so obviously hes much stronger.
yup
actaully it was class 25. Which is not 25 tons the a misconception. His strength was only 15 tons.
also this is off topic I will get my old kinpin thread up.
Originally posted by BattlehammerWrong! A peak human in comics is the same as a metahuman in real life. An athletic human in comics is the same as a peak human in real life. This is common sense.
wrong. Comic wises a peak-human is the best a human can be well still being with in the human limits.
Not in strength or speed he's not. He is not stronger nor necessarily faster than CA who is stated as peak human. Now if CA isn't a peak human by comic standards then of course Logan isn't either. But CA is peak human by comic standards (not real life standards).
wrong. Logan has in comics only ever been implied and stated as beyond human limits such as enchanced human.
And stop smoking that sh!t. It is implied that Logan is peak human in strength and speed (comparable to CA). So stop saying the term "peak-human" by itself. You must say peak-human strength, peak-human speed, etc. Now Logan is not peak human in senses (smell, sight, etc.), nor is he peak human in healing and bone structure and thus he is not peak human in every way. But he is peak-human in some things (I listed them).
sorry, but you won't be finding a single comic in which Logan is stated as peak-human. He has been stated as enchanced human or implied super human.