the final hierarchy once and for all whos are the most powerful in marvel

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Thanos_THOTU The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by rotiart
Well thats just theory either way isn't it. 😛

True 😛

Ethereal KMC Herald

What is the Infinity Being? Anyway..heres the Top 10.

Multiversal Death is also hard to put..

TOAA ( Omniverse TOAA?)
Original Beyonder ( Said to have more power than the marvel multiverse combined/ Obliterated the concept of Death)
Thanos with HOTU ( Power of the Marvel Multiverse)
Ultimate Nullifier ( Destroyed Multi-Eternity, and MultiEternity = Multiverse minus Realms ( negative zone, vishanti's dimension, etc)
White Crown Phoenix ( Repaired the Multi-Verse}/ Abraxas ( Caused Havok in the Multi-Verse on a similiar level)
Living Tribunal
Infinity Gauntlet
The Infinites/ The Makers/ The Shapers
Eternity/Infinity
In-Betweener, Chaos & Order in magik universeGalactus Full/Arishem/Exitar/ / Love/ Hate/ Anomaly/ Eon/ Epoch/ Stranger

Thanos_THOTU The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by Ethereal
What is the Infinity Being? Anyway..heres the Top 10.

Multiversal Death is also hard to put..

TOAA
Original Beyonder ( Said to have more power than the marvel multiverse combined/ Obliterated the concept of Death)
Thanos with HOTU ( Power of the Marvel Multiverse)
Ultimate Nullifier ( Destroyed Multi-Eternity, and MultiEternity = Multiverse minus Realms ( negative zone, vishanti's dimension, etc)
White Crown Phoenix ( Repaired the Multi-Verse}/ Abraxas ( Caused Havok in the Multi-Verse on a similiar level)
Living Tribunal
Infinity Gauntlet
The Infinites/ The Makers/ The Shapers
Eternity/Infinity
In-Betweener, Chaos & Order in magik universeGalactus Full/Arishem/Exitar/ / Love/ Hate/ Anomaly/ Eon/ Epoch/ Stranger


... Again:
1, The Heart was the power and essence of the Supreme being (TOAA)
2, The Nullifier was bellow the Gauntlet, which was bellow the Living Tribunal.
3, The Multi-verse do not have it's own power if you're not refering to Multi-Eternity
4, White Phoenix held the universe in her hand, that was her greatest feat.
This list is full of it...

thedude1948 Senior Member

1.TOAA
2.Living Tribunal

everything else is debateable.

Ethereal KMC Herald

Multiverse is more than multi-eternity.

for instance, the negative-zone wasnt in the mainstream universe that comprised of eternity--but is in the multiverse.

and the real nullifier, the one kept in seperate pieces in seperate universes did undo multi-eternity, because of abraxas.

and TOAA was never mentioned in THE END, when Thanos had the power of the marvel actuality...even then Adam Warlcok at the anchor of reality and death were out of his touch...

The TOAA some refer too, is on an omniversal level..not a multi-versal level.

so TOAA > Thanos w/ HOTU

Thanos_THOTU The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by Ethereal
Multiverse is more than multi-eternity.

for instance, the negative-zone wasnt in the mainstream universe that comprised of eternity--but is in the multiverse.

and the nullifier did undo multi-eternity, because of abraxas.

and TOAA was never mentioned in THE END, when Thanos had the power of the marvel actuality...even then Adam Warlcok at the anchor of reality and death were out of his touch...

The TOAA some refer too, is on an omniversal level.. not a multi-versal level.


http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thoumakesyouomniall7do.jpg
.. So TOAA = Heart

And: Living Tribunal >> Infinity Gauntlet > Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet >> Ultimate Nullifier

Thanos_THOTU The Ghost Who Walks

I agree with this guy: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t419111.html
(check out his latest tiers (last page)

manorastroman Senior Member

1. TOAA
2. Living Tribunal/True Beyonders
3. Death/Phoenix Force/The Infinites
4. Eternity/Galactus (full power)/Abraxas
5. Lord Order/Master Chaos/Scarlet Witch
6. Celestials/Franklin Richards/Galactus
7. Hyperstorm/Korvac/The Watchers
8. Kosmos/Kubik/Shaper of Worlds
9. Onslaught/Alpha the Ultimate Mutant (as ever-evolving entities)
10. Oshtur/Hoggoth/Agamotto
11. Ego the Living Planet/In-Betweener/Atum the God-Eater
12. Set/Chthon/Shuma Gorath
13. Surtur/Stranger/Cyttorak
14. Skyfather
15. Dormammu/The Destroyer
16. Thanos/Elders of the Universe
17. Doctor Strange/Genis-Vell/Sentry
18. Silver Surfer/Quasar/Thor
19. Blackbolt/Adam Warlock/Drax
20. Magneto/God-Cable/Shaman X-Man

this is my list from the hierarchy debates that happened about a year ago.

thedude1948 Senior Member

uhhh X-man is way too low on that list. He could teleport between different dimensions with his powers, he is way higher than Magneto and cable.

Ethereal KMC Herald

Abraxas casues Multi-versal destruction

http://img318.imageshack.us/my.php?image=earthalignment26rx.jpg

Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & Remake the Multiverse

http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1unisusedbyreedtodestroyabraxa.jpg

Multi-Eternity Beign undone by the Ultimate Nullifier

http://img350.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2undestroysmultieternityinfini.jpg

darthgoober Senior Member

1.TOAA.
2.HOTU
3.Pre-Retcon Beyonder
4.Living Tribunal
5.Infinity Gauntlet
6.Ultimate Nullifier
7.Abraxas
8.Multi-Eternity/Multi-Infinity
9.Infinites/Makers
10.Cosmic Containment Units
11.Atleza/Universal Anchors
12.Oblivion
13.Phoenix Force
14.Eternity/Infinty/Entropy/Death/Full Power Galactus

There are more, but those seem to come up the most around here.

(I consider TOAA to be above THOU because while they have the same power, THOU does not grant the Omniscience that goes along with it, and I consider the Beyonder just below both because he was everything OUTSIDE the mainstream Marvel Muliverse/Universe(whichever), while TOAA has dominion over everything in the Multiverse and Beyond, in the Marvel omniverse. But several people disagree with me and since it's ALL theoretical, it's really a matter of personal opinion.)

Thanos_THOTU The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thoumakesyouomniall7do.jpg
.. So TOAA = Heart

And: Living Tribunal >> Infinity Gauntlet > Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet >> Ultimate Nullifier


Again...

Ethereal KMC Herald

Now that I think about it, the UN should be lower..

but by evidence stated then..

Thanos w/ HOTU > Living Tribunal > IG > Nullifier > Multi-Eternity > Abraxas > Galactus

And I know the Classic Beyonder > Death and obviously all the cosmic types inclusing LT and molecule man

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Again...

Who are you trying to convince?

Thanos_THOTU The Ghost Who Walks

Pre-retcon Beyonder
Pre-retcon Molecule man
Pre-retcon Amalgam brothers
The One Above All / Heart of the Universe
The Living Tribunal
Infinity Being
Infinity Gauntlet
Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet
Ultimate Nullifier
Multi-Eternity

Pre-retcon Beyonder was with no doubt the most powerful being at his time.
And the Molecule man only second to him.
Pre-retcon Amalgam brothers were TOAA and the Presence, before they were retconned that is, even though this happend in a DC vs Marvel crossover I belive that's a part of Marvel.
The One Above All, or the essence of his power.
The Living Tribunal of corse
If the Infinity Gauntlet also had the 7th gem (ego gem) than it would equal Infinity Being.
Nullifier couldent be used against the wielder of a incomplete Infinity Gauntlet.
Nullifier deleted and remade the Multi-verse.
Multi-Eternity is simply the powers of all Eternity's combinded.

thedude1948 Senior Member

Pre-retcon Galactus (before he was beat by FF) is the most powerful

Thanos_THOTU The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by thedude1948
Pre-retcon Galactus (before he was beat by FF) is the most powerful

The statements about him were high... No doubt.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Ethereal
What is the Infinity Being? Anyway..heres the Top 10.

Multiversal Death is also hard to put..

TOAA ( Omniverse TOAA?)
Original Beyonder ( Said to have more power than the marvel multiverse combined/ Obliterated the concept of Death)
Thanos with HOTU ( Power of the Marvel Multiverse)
Ultimate Nullifier ( Destroyed Multi-Eternity, and MultiEternity = Multiverse minus Realms ( negative zone, vishanti's dimension, etc)
White Crown Phoenix ( Repaired the Multi-Verse}/ Abraxas ( Caused Havok in the Multi-Verse on a similiar level)
Living Tribunal
Infinity Gauntlet
The Infinites/ The Makers/ The Shapers
Eternity/Infinity
In-Betweener, Chaos & Order in magik universeGalactus Full/Arishem/Exitar/ / Love/ Hate/ Anomaly/ Eon/ Epoch/ Stranger

This list is way out of wack.

Phoenix NEVER repaired the Multi-verse, and her position should be equal to other Abstracts below Eternity (the Single Universe)

Living Tribunal is second only to TOAA and HOTU (TOAA's power, NOT it's authority)...if we include the Pre-era then,

Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Molecule Man are also above LT.

Galactus Full is Above ALL other Abtracts and equal to Eternity

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Pre-retcon Beyonder
Pre-retcon Molecule man
Pre-retcon Amalgam brothers
The One Above All / Heart of the Universe
The Living Tribunal
Infinity Being
Infinity Gauntlet
Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet
Ultimate Nullifier
Multi-Eternity

Pre-retcon Beyonder was with no doubt the most powerful being at his time.
And the Molecule man only second to him.
Pre-retcon Amalgam brothers were TOAA and the Presence, before they were retconned that is, even though this happend in a DC vs Marvel crossover I belive that's a part of Marvel.
The One Above All, or the essence of his power.
The Living Tribunal of corse
If the Infinity Gauntlet also had the 7th gem (ego gem) than it would equal Infinity Being.
Nullifier couldent be used against the wielder of a incomplete Infinity Gauntlet.
Nullifier deleted and remade the Multi-verse.
Multi-Eternity is simply the powers of all Eternity's combinded.


Nice Theory, your welcome to it(we'll just have to agree to disagree).

Thanos_THOTU The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by Mr Master
This list is way out of wack.

Phoenix NEVER repaired the Multi-verse, and her position should be equal to other Abstracts below Eternity (the Single Universe)

Living Tribunal is second only to TOAA and HOTU (TOAA's power, NOT it's authority)...if we include the Pre-era then,

Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Molecule Man are also above LT.

Galactus Full is Above ALL other Abtracts and equal to Eternity


Now correct my list. - Seriously, if there is any error's you're the one that can prove them.