Marvel hierarchy:
1.GOD/the Artist(Jack Kirby presumably)
1.TOAA/"the Writer"(Stan Lee presumably)
God/Jack calls him his "Collaborator".....
It makes sense....
TOAA/Stan lays down the Story/Laws of Marvel.
GOD/Jack turns those Stories/Laws into reality.
2. Pre-Retcon Beyonder
(he can do anything with the power of millions of Multi-verses)
3. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man
(second only to classic Beyonder)
5. Living Tribunal
(who is above the IG)
Tied for #8
8. Abraxas
(his very presence will cause the Multi-verse to fold in on itself/only the ultimate nullifier can banish him)
8. Evil Molecule Man (Post-retcon Owen Reece)
9. Multi-Eternity/Multi-Infinity
(embodiments of the Multiverse/Time&Space)
10. Infinites/Makers
(The Infinites are the maintenance crew of the Multi-verse)
(The Makers created a Micro-verse pocket universe in every universe in the Multi-verse...later these mini-universes were merged to create one mega-universe named creatively...the Micro-verse...lol.)
sorry no pics...
11. Cosmic Containment Units (POTENTIALLY))
5 Cosmic Containment Units CREATED a Duplicate 616 Universe.
Magus might of created Universes...instead of just One Universe with the 5 Cosmic Cubes.
Doom say's it only takes ONE to possibly conquer the Entire Universe.
Which is true...if you have enough WILL power...
Cosmic Containment Units may be able to rival the power of the IG,(POTENTIALLY)
Here Mephisto is telling Thanos about the history of the Cubes...they actually impose limitations on themselves(the containment units)not the entities like kubik and others.
When Thanos with his willpower exploited that Cosmic Cube...he became the size of a Universe and shrunk down after Marvel destroyed the Cube, which was in some other space unprotected.
First Marvel found the unprotected Cube and destroyed it.
Then Thanos, who had become the size of the Universe..shrunk down and fell unconscious.
Tied for #11
11. Atleza/and the rest of the Universal Anchors
(They stabilize their respective Universes from being absorbed by Oblivion)
11. Oblivion (resides in the Cosmic Vortex, swallowing Universes that collapse, are destroyed, nullified, and displaced by a weakened Anchor
Tied for #12.
12. Phoenix Force
(repaired the lattice of the mkraan crystal/repaired an amputated future
12. Eternity/Infinty
(embodiment of time & space in a single universe)
FULL Power Galactus (equal to Eternity)
Rest of the Abstracts and so on...
Does anybody understands current, which means now.
1. TOAA(God)
2. Living Tribunal/ White Crown Phoenix/ True Beyonder
3. Infinites/ Anybody w/ the IG
4. Eternity/ Death/ Oblivion/Infinity/ Abaraxas/ Full Powered Galactus/ The Seven Firendlys (children of Eternity)/ Exitar
5. Normal Galactus/ Celestails/ full Powered Tyrant/ Ego/ Phoenix Avartars
6. The Watchers/ Chaos&Order/ Love&Hate/ Nebula/ Eon
7. In-Betweener/ The Stranger/ Epoch/ Hungrey Galactus
Originally posted by the Darkone
Does anybody understands current, which means now.1. TOAA(God)
2. Living Tribunal/ White Crown Phoenix/ True Beyonder
3. Infinites/ Anybody w/ the IG
4. Eternity/ Death/ Oblivion/Infinity/ Abaraxas/ Full Powered Galactus/ The Seven Firendlys (children of Eternity)/ Exitar
5. Normal Galactus/ Celestails/ full Powered Tyrant/ Ego/ Phoenix Avartars
6. The Watchers/ Chaos&Order/ Love&Hate/ Nebula/ Eon
7. In-Betweener/ The Stranger/ Epoch/ Hungrey Galactus
This is actully the best given list in this thread and I agree with the Darkone.
Except that I would give True Beyonder bellow White Phoenix of the Crown and bellow Living Tribunal.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Does anybody understands current, which means now.1. TOAA(God)
2. Living Tribunal/ White Crown Phoenix/ True Beyonder
3. Infinites/ Anybody w/ the IG
4. Eternity/ Death/ Oblivion/Infinity/ Abaraxas/ Full Powered Galactus/ The Seven Firendlys (children of Eternity)/ Exitar
5. Normal Galactus/ Celestails/ full Powered Tyrant/ Ego/ Phoenix Avartars
6. The Watchers/ Chaos&Order/ Love&Hate/ Nebula/ Eon
7. In-Betweener/ The Stranger/ Epoch/ Hungrey Galactus
Actually the thread starter said everything included, Pre-retcons and all.
Still though, if it were current, this list wouldn't do.
What is Phoenix doing next to LT and above the Infinites, IG and the Abstracts?
On the "Current" tip: BASED on FEATS...
1. TOAA/GOD/HOTU (In Power, NOT Authority)
2. Living Tribunal
3. Infinity Gauntlet/Cosmic Containment Units (Potentially)
4. Ultimate Nullifier
5. Abraxas
6. Multi-Eternity/Multi-Infinity (the Multi-verse)
7. Infinites/Makers/Cosmic Containment Units (Unevolved Cosmic Cubes)
8. Atleza/Oblivion
9. White Phoenix of the Crown/Eternity & Infinity/Entropy/Death
10. Rest of the Abstracts and so on...
Where would you guys place Roma? And her race of people...
Originally posted by Ethereal
Wasnt the Living Tribunal humbled by the power of the phoenix?
Never.
It was this fallacy that got that rumor started.
On the Scan that never existed....
let me break it down for you.
Scan 1:
Here Eternity is explaining to Jean how the Universe works and how it has lead to US....
Already proved this many times over...Phoenix is the SPARK that ignites the natural Big Bang of a Universe, which ends life and begins life in said Universe.
Phoenix is NOT the Big Bang and the scan clearly tells us the Celestials SEEDED the Universe with Creation and the Celestial were created by Eternity.
Scan 2:
Ok, here Eternity says, "like Galactus was the sole survivor...so shall Humanity Begin the End, End the Beginning."
NOTHING about Phoenix.
"Oblivion will embrace all...creation will Renew itself"...(no need for Phoenix)
"And therein lies the Stranger's conceit"...
Ok, I'm sure you see now that the Stranger WANTS to BE ABLE to do..what Humans WILL BE ABLE to do one day.
(Which is WHY they are BOWING to HIM in the scan...
because one day WE (Humans), will NOT need the Abstracts or even the Living Tribunal...
they will be as NOTHING to US (Humans).
"He plans to spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos."
How does he PLAN to do that?....AT one time some even thought it would be with the power of Phoenix.
But I think not.
Scan 3 & 4:
The Stranger was going to use 5 (FIVE) individuals to accomplish his "Spark in Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"
Marko, Jean, Iceman, Toad, Mystique.
More Proof it was FIVE individuals the Stranger was going to use to "Spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"...
NOT Phoenix...NOT PHOENIX AT ALL....Jean didn't even have the Phoenix Force during this time.
"To pluck FIVE representative Earthlings to SERVE as his Evolutionary Vanguards"
notworthy------------------>nono
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Where would you guys place Roma? And her race of people...
I been sleeping on Roma, Guardian of the Multi-verse:
Roma she inherited the reins of the Multi-verse
Merlin is Not dead by the way
Roma says Understanding the Universe is hard enough, but she tends to Eternity (the Multi-verse)
"Within it, ALL that ever was, ever is or ever will be exists"
She's very powerful, and she has a weapon that can erase Universes with a click (the Celestial Nullifier) - I'll post those scans later.
Roma has Control over Time...Here she is with a Cap. Brit. would be successor
Roma plucks her husband (who was Dead) from the Past
And brings him to the Present (Alive) with a gesture
Roma Oversees the Entire Multi-verse personally,
And the Omni-verse with her Father Merlin.
The Omni-verse is EVERY possible Alternate Reality (ALL the Marvel Universes)
