Originally posted by #16
awww hold up man, not that. that makes you like a walking ligthning target. edit it please.
My emotions got the better of me, i apologise to all those that believe in a higher being. But me as for now i worship #8.
Dr, you saw first hand what happens when Kobe gets his teammates involved. We go down 18 to the Raptors, if Kobe had better players right now.............well thats a subject worth discussing.
lol @ Point, Kobe raped those poor dudes one at a time.
Originally posted by koolruningz
My emotions got the better of me, i apologise to all those that believe in a higher being.
I believe in a higher being. Right now, seems like Kobe just may be a higher being than me. However, since I don't like him, that means I'm sort of like a devil like figure right now. 😈
I just typed this to hoopshype.com and I may send it to Slam magazine as well hoping it will get published:
Let me start out by saying I have been a Kobe hater since day 1. My hometown team has always been the Portland Trail Blazers and as most Blazer fans do, I hate the Lakers. My dislike of Kobe has always been far superior to that of any other player. Over the course of the Lakers three-peat, I always found myself saying, "At least don't let Kobe get MVP." However, some of my views have changed starting with Steve Nash winning MVP last year. Last year, I thought nobody in the NBA deserved MVP. Nash seemed to have received it by default since somebody had to be awarded and his team was tops. This made me angry as well despite me always liking Nash because I simply didn't think his performance was deserving of the award. After seeing that Nash has been mentioned in MVP campaigns again, along with fellow point guard Chauncey Billups who is also undeserving due to Detroit's success being a team effort, not an individual one, I have finally come to my senses about Kobe. I still do not like him, but this year there is no choice but to give the Most Valuable Player award to #8. Plus, I would like to point out that I came to this conclusion two days BEFORE Kobe dropped an 81 point bomb on the Toronto Raptors. WOW! I have never before had so much respect for somebody I disliked so much. Much of my hatred though has been pushed aside for the time being just for me to charish the fact that I'm witnessing a pivotal time in NBA history. May the MVP award go to Kobe Bryant... and then may he get destroyed in the Playoffs.
such a historical moment in nba history... and my raptors were on the end of it🙁 ah well, better to be a part of summin than not, even if you're on teh end of an 81pt performance by a single player. well done kb8, i'm not a lakers fan, as i have some blazer in me, but well done. *****.
i've been published in slam, wrote a letter when teh pistons won the championship, the cover has billups arms raised on a red background. it was the last letter too, kinda freaked me out at first coz i thought i was reading a letter by someone from where i live, which is freaky coz this place aint big. then i realised it was mine. suck shock and pleasure i had. just in case anyone looks i'm kev rowland.
myth, do you think kobe should be given the mvp? i didnt realise the mvp was the same as the scoring title? i know hes practically the lakers, but i think the fact he scores so heavily is going to affect teh devlopment on teh younger players and not let them get involved, thus hurting their chances of improving. who should have the mvp? i dont really know.... i think its pretty open.
Originally posted by Myth
I just typed this to hoopshype.com and I may send it to Slam magazine as well hoping it will get published:Let me start out by saying I have been a Kobe hater since day 1. My hometown team has always been the Portland Trail Blazers and as most Blazer fans do, I hate the Lakers. My dislike of Kobe has always been far superior to that of any other player. Over the course of the Lakers three-peat, I always found myself saying, "At least don't let Kobe get MVP." However, some of my views have changed starting with Steve Nash winning MVP last year. Last year, I thought nobody in the NBA deserved MVP. Nash seemed to have received it by default since somebody had to be awarded and his team was tops. This made me angry as well despite me always liking Nash because I simply didn't think his performance was deserving of the award. After seeing that Nash has been mentioned in MVP campaigns again, along with fellow point guard Chauncey Billups who is also undeserving due to Detroit's success being a team effort, not an individual one, I have finally come to my senses about Kobe. I still do not like him, but this year there is no choice but to give the Most Valuable Player award to #8. Plus, I would like to point out that I came to this conclusion two days BEFORE Kobe dropped an 81 point bomb on the Toronto Raptors. WOW! I have never before had so much respect for somebody I disliked so much. Much of my hatred though has been pushed aside for the time being just for me to charish the fact that I'm witnessing a pivotal time in NBA history. May the MVP award go to Kobe Bryant... and then may he get destroyed in the Playoffs.
Myth i am stunned, that must have taken some stones for a Blazer fan to write that.
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Originally posted by darth_royke
myth, do you think kobe should be given the mvp? i didnt realise the mvp was the same as the scoring title? i know hes practically the lakers, but i think the fact he scores so heavily is going to affect teh devlopment on teh younger players and not let them get involved, thus hurting their chances of improving. who should have the mvp? i dont really know.... i think its pretty open.
Im not sure Kobe should get the MVP at the moment, the season is only half way done. Id rather address the other point you made about making his players better, last nights game was a classic example of how he does that. Kobe isnt a Nash or Kidd type player that passes first, thats just not his game. It also helps that when Nash and Kidd do pass its to someone that can finish. Last night Kobe came out and tried to get the others involved and they couldnt throw it in the ocean. To top it off they didnt play one lick of defense, i mean the Raps had 60+ at the half.
It seemed like after they went down 19 at the start of the 3rd Kobe took it upon himself to bring them back, you could see the defensive intensity of the Lakers start to pick up with every basket he made. I dont think i have seen the Lakers play better D this year as they did in the rest of the 3rd and i dont think i have ever seen a teams spirit deflate as quickly as the Raptors did either.
Now i know this isnt the way Nash or Kidd or any of the other great passers helps their team but Kobe's play definitely energised them last night and in that way made them better.
I would love to see Kobe averaging 7/8 assists a game, but to do that you need players that can finish. Kwame is improving but the dude has missed so many point blank layups its ridiculous. Our outside shooters are Smush and Sasha and are hugely inconsistent. Its a case of Kobe scores in droves or we lose, its really that simple.
i do see your point kool, but i still feel its gonna hurt the furture of the lakers by not giving the younger players a chance to develop. theres always practice of course and summer leagues, but nothing improves you like the raw nba game itself. he does need more talent around him, i think they're one decent big guy from making a decent playoff spot. as for the mvp i'm not sure at all.... no-ones really standing out for me.
I dont think the bigs are the problem really, they are average but serviceable (if they could just catch the damn ball and dunk it). Our problem is lack of outside shooting, in the championship year we always had great spot up shooters (Scott, Rice, Fisher, Horry etc) that would stretch the defense and give our bigs and slashers space to operate. We have no 2nd scoring option either, Odom is a distributor by nature and only looks to score if he is out of options. He compliments Kobe well in that respect but until Kwame or Smush become a consistent scoring option he is also gonna have to score which is just not his game.
I understand what you mean about developing the young players but they have to look like they want to improve and show some passion out there. Kobe is the only Laker that does that every game.
First off, Kobe = WOW. I just hope that he doesn't pass that 100 point mark because IMO Wilt should hold that record forever.
Second, the Suns game was crazy. The last time a team scored 149 and lost was when the Nuggets did it in 1984. They lost 157-154 and it wasn't even an OT game.
Third, the Sixers game was crazy. Iguodala with the put back game-winning buzzer beater. And it was great for them to get back at Bill Walton. I don't even know why they have him as an announcer. Here's horrible at it, and he doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. He should stick to actully playing the game, not analyzing it. I was listening to him on ESPN once and I was like WTF is he talking about. Seriously, you'd think he'd know more.
Originally posted by darth_royke
i do see your point kool, but i still feel its gonna hurt the furture of the lakers by not giving the younger players a chance to develop.
Oh, I agree that it won't be good for the developing players' futures. But MVP is for a single season. This season, the Lakers are nothing without Kobe (as I said before).
Bill Walton - I hate him even though he is the one guy to ever bring the Blazers a championship. I swear he was rooting for the Lakers in '99 over the Blazers (because he likes big guys) despite Walton playing both on the Blazers and Celtics in his career.
Originally posted by DanZeke25
And it was great for them to get back at Bill Walton. I don't even know why they have him as an announcer. Here's horrible at it, and he doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. He should stick to actully playing the game, not analyzing it. I was listening to him on ESPN once and I was like WTF is he talking about. Seriously, you'd think he'd know more.
Bill Walton is comedy value, nothing more. He contradicts and exaggerates so much its just become amusing. In the Heat vs Spurs game after the Heat had made a mini run and cut the lead to 8 or something he comes out with "the Spurs are completely demoralised and disorientated" or some shit like that. The dude he was calling the game with said "what are you talking about? these are the world champions and they're still up by 8". Pure comedy.
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I fully understand your jubilation Dr, that is a fantastic trade for the Queens....i mean Kings. Peja has been blowing donkeys lately and you trade him for a 20pt a game player who can guard the opposing teams best perimeter scorer, great move. Think about it, Artest can limit the output of any perimeter player in the game. Kobe, Wade, LeBron, Rip i dont mean shut them down but he definitely slows them down. This move puts the Kings in contention to make the playoffs now if the rest of the team steps up and Artest takes his medication.
The Kings improve offensively, defensively, rebounding, toughness. What's not to like. Kings get one of the top 10 players in the league, arguably the most complete, for an over-glorified shooter who has no balls to speak of. I bet Jermaine O'Neil can't wait to pass to Peja in a close game and watch him shoot an air ball.
Even if Artest goes Hannibal Lector again, he's only on contract for a year and a half (so it's not like we're stuck with him.) This puts the Kings back in contention. If the Kings do improve like they should, NOBODY will want to face a pissed off Artest and a now hungry Bibby in the playoffs.
If only they'd fire Aldeman and hire Hubie, I'd be in NBA heaven.