Originally posted by Hyperion 07
Well OK but I warned you.The whole thing is absolute crap. I find it a joke TBH.
I did say. 🙁
Naw thats ok and im not pissed by that. I just get pissed when it seems that people are genuinely trying to piss you off and be argumentative. Thats your valid opinion. By the way do you find it more insane than worshipping God and angels.
Originally posted by Hyperion 07
What proof do you have that any of whoever you worship exists?
1. I think its impossible that highier lifeforms cant exist. Realiity is a nig place and we have limited perception of reality. I think logic dictates there are other lifeforsm more powerful than us who are aware of our existence.
2. Through meditation you can percieve other realites. I have not found enough proof yet to indicate wether its external or just an internal reality, but there have been experiments that showed masters at meditating could use chi to affect the external reality.
3. Mythology isnt supposed to be taken literially, its metaphorical..some of it is history though.
Originally posted by Hyperion 07
Well OK but I warned you.The whole thing is absolute crap. I find it a joke TBH.
I did say. 🙁
What proof do you have that any of whoever you worship exists?
That is to make the same error as the fundamentalist
mythology is open to interpretation, it does not have to be literal
Originally posted by Alfheim
Naw thats ok and im not pissed by that. I just get pissed when it seems that people are genuinely trying to piss you off and be argumentative. Thats your valid opinion. By the way do you find it more insane than worshipping God and angels.1. I think its impossible that highier lifeforms cant exist. Realiity is a nig place and we have limited perception of reality. I think logic dictates there are other lifeforsm more powerful than us who are aware of our existence.
2. Through meditation you can percieve other realites. I have not found enough proof yet to indicate wether its external or just an internal reality, but there have been experiments that showed masters at meditating could use chi to affect the external reality.
3. Mythology isnt supposed to be taken literially, its metaphorical..some of it is history though.
I don't do either.
I wasn't brought up in any religion. I recently started believing in god but I don't worship him. Hell I can't be classed as a true believer because I am on and of.
If theres history, what history? With Christianity we have witnesses to Jesus, what do you have?
Originally posted by Hyperion 07
...If theres history, what history? With Christianity we have witnesses to Jesus, what do you have?
The first of the NT was written around 90 AD. If the "witnesses" of Jesus were the same age as Jesus, they would have been 90 years old at least. Therefore, the someone else wrote the NT other then those who saw Jesus.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Mythology doesn't have to be literal to have value.
Originally posted by Hyperion 07
How can it be a religion if theres nothing really there?
He never said it had to be classified as a religion. Aesop's Fables aren't literally true but they contain valuable lessons for children. It's the same idea.
Myths serve many functions, not all of them related to spiritual enlightenment. Some are merely for entertainment. Some were originally used to try to understand forces of nature. Others are intended to serve as examples of how to overcome hardships, or move through the transitions in life that are a burden for many of us. And among those, some aim at higher forms of understanding in the form of happiness and love. Religions just make the mistkae, too often, of taking the myths literally rather than seeing their true value.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonActually earlier. Most people would suggest 60AD at the latest. Not to mention that they wouldn't be 90 by then either. The disciples were likely considerably younger than Jesus.
The first of the NT was written around 90 AD. If the "witnesses" of Jesus were the same age as Jesus, they would have been 90 years old at least. Therefore, the someone else wrote the NT other then those who saw Jesus.
Re: Links to Heathenry
Originally posted by AlfheimI've read anglefire.com before. Interesting reads. Forgot what was in them though..
I thought I would post up some links about Heathenry if anyone is interested.Here is a website about Odin.
http://www.angelfire.com/on/Wodensharrow/odennamn.html
Here is one about Thor
http://home.earthlink.net/~asatru/thor/thor.html
Here is a website for Norse Mythology source texts.
http://www.angelfire.com/on/Wodensharrow/texts.html
Im not sure how you will react to this alot of stuff people may find difficult to understand, but a good place to start is here:
http://www.angelfire.com/on/Wodensharrow/havamal.html
This is a source text were alot of Heathens will find information on moraility
Ok so what do you think about the links? What do you think about Heathenry...discuss.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Scholarly opinion almost unanimously puts Mark at late 60s or early 70s. Dead Sea scrolls have a fragment that is very likely from the Gospel of Mark dated to 68AD at the latest.
I simple think you have been reading too much Christian propaganda. My point was that most likely the gospels were not written by the people whose names are on the book.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonAtheist scholarship and literary analysis agrees with me. Thanks for the cop-out though. And that isn't likely because it's based on anecdotal evidence and speculation. Nothing solid.
I simple think you have been reading too much Christian propaganda. My point was that most likely the gospels were not written by the people whose names are on the book.