Originally posted by FeceMan
I like how Urizen is almost pro-Christian in that post. Just wait a few days.
Just because I think Christianity is myth, doesn't mean I hate it, or can't appreciate certain aspects of it.
I simply think Marcello has a lot of nerve condemning people who pretty much beleive in the same God and Bible that he does. Who is he to claim he is "more Christian" than you or Nellinator ?
[QUOTE=9307572]Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Just because I think Christianity is myth, doesn't mean I hate it, or can't appreciate certain aspects of it.
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I simply think Marcello has a lot of nerve condemning people who pretty much beleive in the same God and Bible that he does...
***I don't condemn people who believe in the same God or Bible that I believe in [i.e., I don't condemn JIA because we are both in agreement about Jesus Christ and the Bible. He is the only other Christian...other than myself...on this thread. ALL others on this board do NOT believe in the God of Israel [i.e., Jesus Christ]...and don't have the correct Biblical beliefs about His person and why He came]
Who is he to claim he is "more Christian" than you or Nellinator ?
***A person is NOT "almost a Christian"...or "more Christian than the other guy"...he is EITHER a Chistian or he is NOT.
Too, I don't condemn people when I tell them that they are going to HELL because they don't trust on the Lord Jesus Christ as the ONLY Saviour. What I am doing is only repeating what the Scriptures say about Him and why there is NO other way to God without Him. In other words, it is not I who condemns them...it is the Scriptures themselves that condemns them. This, of course, exposes the Christian open to attack because unbelievers like you reject Jesus Christ and the Scriptures and, as such, are at enmity with us and call us hate mongers and unloving and condemning. But that is the price of discipleship...for we are NOT greater than our Saviour who died for us. Too, you and the others hated HIM before you hated ME.
Marchello
Originally posted by Marchello
[QUOTE=9307572]Originally posted by Goddess Kali
[B]Just because I think Christianity is myth, doesn't mean I hate it, or can't appreciate certain aspects of it.***N/A
I simply think Marcello has a lot of nerve condemning people who pretty much beleive in the same God and Bible that he does...
***I don't condemn people who believe in the same God or Bible that I believe in [i.e., I don't condemn JIA because we are both in agreement about Jesus Christ and the Bible. He is the only other Christian...other than myself...on this thread. ALL others on this board do NOT believe in the God of Israel [i.e., Jesus Christ]...and don't have the correct Biblical beliefs about His person and why He came]
Who is he to claim he is "more Christian" than you or Nellinator ?
***A person is NOT "almost a Christian"...or "more Christian than the other guy"...he is EITHER a Chistian or he is NOT.
Too, I don't condemn people when I tell them that they are going to HELL because they don't trust on the Lord Jesus Christ as the ONLY Saviour. What I am doing is only repeating what the Scriptures say about Him and why there is NO other way to God without Him. In other words, it is not I who condemns them...it is the Scriptures themselves that condemns them. This, of course, exposes the Christian open to attack because unbelievers like you reject Jesus Christ and the Scriptures and, as such, are at enmity with us and call us hate mongers and unloving and condemning. But that is the price of discipleship...for we are NOT greater than our Saviour who died for us. Too, you and the others hated HIM before you hated ME.
Marchello [/B]
Let me say this once again:
SHUT THE F*CK UP
Originally posted by MarchelloHmm... I believe in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord and that there is no other way to God except through him, and I believe Feceman does as well. Therefore we are Christians. I firmly believe that "out of his belly (Christ's) [flows] the rivers of living water".I simply think Marcello has a lot of nerve condemning people who pretty much beleive in the same God and Bible that he does...
***I don't condemn people who believe in the same God or Bible that I believe in [i.e., I don't condemn JIA because we are both in agreement about Jesus Christ and the Bible. He is the only other Christian...other than myself...on this thread. ALL others on this board do NOT believe in the God of Israel [i.e., Jesus Christ]...and don't have the correct Biblical beliefs about His person and why He came]
Too, I don't condemn people when I tell them that they are going to HELL because they don't trust on the Lord Jesus Christ as the ONLY Saviour. What I am doing is only repeating what the Scriptures say about Him and why there is NO other way to God without Him. In other words, it is not I who condemns them...it is the Scriptures themselves that condemns them. This, of course, exposes the Christian open to attack because unbelievers like you reject Jesus Christ and the Scriptures and, as such, are at enmity with us and call us hate mongers and unloving and condemning. But that is the price of discipleship...for we are NOT greater than our Saviour who died for us. Too, you and the others hated HIM before you hated ME.[/B]
Also, you believe in the "God of Israel" which is nice, but the Lord and Saviour is lord over all nations and all tribes and all peoples. Awesome how you call the Scriptures false when John 3:16 says that we are saved. Too bad you think Jesus who inspired the text is a liar. Also, you telling people they are going to hell is unscriptural
Also, you incorrectly called me Catholic showing that Scripture is once again against you.
"Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgement"
- John 7:24
Then again we do see that this means that Scripture calls you a sinner because of it.
"Also, that the soul be without knowledge, it is not good; and he that hasteth with his feet sinneth." - Proverbs 19:2
Your false hasty judgment is called sin and I highly doubt you will repent of it. Instead I suspect an arrogant response, but such is the way of the proud and arrogant that are not humble.
I proved you wrong with true Biblical analysis and you have and can only respond with the traditions of English-Bible Baptist traditions of man. I pity you and your indoctrinated blindness. I also pity that you demean the Lord and believe that he would allow perversion of His son's sacrifice to exist for 1500 years. Your failure at bearing fruit is only a sign that you are apart of the true vine that is Christ (John 15:2).
If what you spoke was true you could rebut what I have said. You have not and cannot because what I said was true.
...Also, you telling people they are going to hell is unscriptural
***All who reject Jesus Christ WILL [of a certainty] die in their sins and end up in HELL. Jesus said the following: "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall DIE IN YOUR SINS: for if ye believe NOT that I am HE, ye shall DIE IN YOUR SINS" [John 8:24].
Frankly, I don't give one wit what you and your crowd think about me personally...I am not in a popularity contest here...and I know and expect that you and they will dislike what JIA and I have to say. My purpose here is to tell you all that you are ALL dying of CANCER...and that the Great Physician is the ONLY one who can CURE you so that you might live. But you REFUSE to come to Him for the CURE...so you ALL will DIE the DEATH.
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Also, you incorrectly called me Catholic showing that Scripture is once again against you.
"Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgement"
- John 7:24
***I can only go by what you have posted on these boards...and what you have posted is what Romans Catholics proclaim. If you are not Catholic you are, at the least, a Catholic apologist.
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Your false hasty judgment is called sin and I highly doubt you will repent of it. Instead I suspect an arrogant response, but such is the way of the proud and arrogant that are not humble.
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I proved you wrong with true Biblical analysis and you have and can only respond with the traditions of English-Bible Baptist traditions of man.
***You did no such thing. You gave no scriptural evidence at all for your conclusions...and used the reasonings of man. Go back and look at your pitiful ramblings...all you did was DENY. A scoundrel denies when he is trapped.
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I pity you and your indoctrinated blindness. I also pity that you demean the Lord and believe that he would allow perversion of His son's sacrifice to exist for 1500 years. Your failure at bearing fruit is only a sign that you are apart of the true vine that is Christ (John 15:2).
If what you spoke was true you could rebut what I have said. You have not and cannot because what I said was true.
***You are a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE. You side with those on this board who reject the Lord Jesus Christ against those who LOVE Him and proclaim Him [i.e., JIA and myself]. You then tell us that we are HATE MONGERS because we tell them and you that Jesus Christ is the ONLY Saviour and that all who reject Him will spend an ETERNITY in HELL for their REJECTION. Our proclamations inflame your PITIFUL sensitivities...it stabs you to the QUICK and you then call us UNLOVING and HOSTILE. It is WE who are telling the TRUTH...and you are ALL BLIND and in UTTER DARKNESS. Paul said it best: "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are LOST" [2 Corinthians 4:3].
Marchello
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*["It doesn't say rock as I showed..."]
***Yes, it does and you have showed me NOYHING...NOTHING but DENIAL. However, the upside of DENIAL is that it does NOT constitute PROOF.
The Scriptures REFUTE your OUTRAGEOUS denials...hear them: "The LORD is my ROCK, and my FORTRESS, and my DELIVERER; my God, my strength, in WHOM I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of salvation, and my high tower" [Psalm 18:2]. The scripture SPECIFICALLY says "The LORD is my ROCK...FORTRESS...and DELIVERER..." The LORD [i.e., David's ROCK] is a FORTRESS "who" sheltered King David from his enemies...and a DELIVERER "who" rescued him and set him FREE from DEATH at their hands. The Psalmist continues: "The LORD liveth; and blessed be my ROCK; and let the God of my salvation be exalted. It is God [i.e., my ROCK] that avengeth me and subdueth the people under me. He delivereth me [i.e., God is the DELIVERER...who rescues and sets one FREE] from mine enemies: yea, thou [i.e., my ROCK] liftest me up above those that rise up against me: thou [i.e., my ROCK] hast delivered me from the violent man" [Psalms 18:46-48].
BOTTOM-LINE: The LORD God of the OT is David's "Rock" {Psalm 18:2] and rescued him from DEATH by his enemies and set him FREE. This SAME LORD God is the "Rock" of the NT [1 Corinthians 10:4] who was CRUCIFIED, DIED, and was BURIED...and AROSE fron the GRAVE BODILY according to the Scriptures [1 Corinthians 15:3-4] and sets the sinner FREE from the LAST ENEMY which is ETERNAL DEATH in HELL!
Peter, on the other hand, is a "stone" [John 1:42]...one of MANY stones (i.e., BELIEVERS) [1 Peter 2:5]...who COMPRISE the HOUSE of God [i.e., the Church]. Christ ALONE is the FOUNDATION of the Church [1 Corinthians 3:11] and it's CORNERSTONE [1 Peter 2:6]. The Church was NOT built upon Peter and Matthew 16:18 does NOT say that the Church would be built on him. In point of fact..."I will build my Church..." shows the formation of the Church was still in the FUTURE. It ultimately began on the day of Pentecost [Acts 2].
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*["I am not Catholic, so you fail there..."
***Your posts reveal what you believe...and what they reveal are decidedly Roman Catholic beliefs. If you are not a Catholic...you are, at the least, a Catholic apologist.
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*["The writers of the Old Testament did not call God their rock..."]
***Yes, they did...to wit:
(1)"He is the ROCK, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he" [Deuteronomy 32:4].
(2)"There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any ROCK like our God" [1 Samuel 2:2].
(3)"Unto thee will I cry, O LORD my ROCK; be not silent to me: lest, if thou be silent to me, I become like them that go down into the pit" [Psalms 28:1].
(4)"For who is God save the LORD? or who is a ROCK save our God?' [Psalms 18:31].
(5)"The LORD is my ROCK, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower" [Psalms 18:2].
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Originally posted by MarchelloI never passed judgment or ever mentioned what I thought of you. Sorry, that you feel persecuted by me it of your own imagination. I do not hold you to be hateful, nor do I consider you hostile. You are falsely accusing me. I do accuse you of ignorance, but I believe your message is poorly communicated love. I also hold that Jesus is our only Saviour. You thinking I said differently is of your own imagination.
[B]...Also, you telling people they are going to hell is unscriptural***All who reject Jesus Christ WILL [of a certainty] die in their sins and end up in HELL. Jesus said the following: "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall DIE IN YOUR SINS: for if ye believe NOT that I am HE, ye shall DIE IN YOUR SINS" [John 8:24].
Frankly, I don't give one wit what you and your crowd think about me personally...I am not in a popularity contest here...and I know and expect that you and they will dislike what JIA and I have to say. My purpose here is to tell you all that you are ALL dying of CANCER...and that the Great Physician is the ONLY one who can CURE you so that you might live. But you REFUSE to come to Him for the CURE...so you ALL will DIE the DEATH.
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Also, you incorrectly called me Catholic showing that Scripture is once again against you.
"Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgement"
- John 7:24***I can only go by what you have posted on these boards...and what you have posted is what Romans Catholics proclaim. If you are not Catholic you are, at the least, a Catholic apologist.
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Your false hasty judgment is called sin and I highly doubt you will repent of it. Instead I suspect an arrogant response, but such is the way of the proud and arrogant that are not humble.
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I proved you wrong with true Biblical analysis and you have and can only respond with the traditions of English-Bible Baptist traditions of man.
***You did no such thing. You gave no scriptural evidence at all for your conclusions...and used the reasonings of man. Go back and look at your pitiful ramblings...all you did was DENY. A scoundrel denies when he is trapped.
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I pity you and your indoctrinated blindness. I also pity that you demean the Lord and believe that he would allow perversion of His son's sacrifice to exist for 1500 years. Your failure at bearing fruit is only a sign that you are apart of the true vine that is Christ (John 15:2).
If what you spoke was true you could rebut what I have said. You have not and cannot because what I said was true.
***You are a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE. You side with those on this board who reject the Lord Jesus Christ against those who LOVE Him and proclaim Him [i.e., JIA and myself]. You then tell us that we are HATE MONGERS because we tell them and you that Jesus Christ is the ONLY Saviour and that all who reject Him will spend an ETERNITY in HELL for their REJECTION. Our proclamations inflame your PITIFUL sensitivities...it stabs you to the QUICK and you then call us UNLOVING and HOSTILE. It is WE who are telling the TRUTH...and you are ALL BLIND and in UTTER DARKNESS. Paul said it best: "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are LOST" [2 Corinthians 4:3].
Marchello [/B]
I was already cured by Jesus and I agree that he is the only cure. I have always supported as such. Jesus died and cleansed us from our sins and then rose from the grave in victory. I believe that with my entire heart.
Catholics are not always wrong. Too bad you are so full of ignorance that you cannot see the grace of Jesus where it is and where it is not. am not a Catholic apologist, I am a Biblical apologist. I defend sound doctrine.
I did give scriptural evidence. I proved using the original language that the Bible was written in that you are misrepresenting the Word. Your response was reiterating the English translation as saying rock when it does not. Sel'a does not mean rock. Zur does not mean rock. Those are the only two words you presented. These were not the reasonings of man, they are what the Holy Bible says. YOU are going off the interpretations of men that denied the same Scripture that Jesus used.
I sided with nobody. You are delusional if you think so. I have done nothing hypocritical at all on these forums. If I have, it is your duty to point it out to me so that I may repent and have victory in that area. I have merely corrected your incorrect English-Bible and indoctrinated theology. I have not been trapped at all. Considering that you refused to respond it would seem that you have not rebuttal because you cannot defeat sound doctrine with English-Bible Baptist theology. I have long accepted Jesus as my only Saviour and have repeatedly defended that. You are the only one trying to drive a wedge between that. Furthermore, you have repeatedly called Jesus a liar by contradicting John 3:16.