Who do we cheer for? Who do we want to win?

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Who do we cheer for? Who do we want to win?

Star Wars has always been good versus evil, and everyone always knows good prevails, so we root for them. We cheer for good destroy evil. But who do we cheer for in this film? Anakin, who we know will be evil but may not be in this film? Or the republic? Or the jedi? WHO? WHO!?!

Hmmm, that's kind of a problem for me..because I know that I will definately want to root for Anakin...even though we will eventually fall. On the other hand..that would be great if everyone roots for Anakin in EP2...just because then it would make his fall from grace that much more potent for the audience.

I think GL will go for sympathy with Anakin and anitpathy towards the establishment. That way his fall will be more dramatic and the concept of "a new hope" becomes a necessity. So I see myself cheering for Anakin and then finding out that we were ALL soo wrong. (and then we see the OT again and can't belive we were so stupid 😂 )

So what about Obi-Wan? He's the constant throughout, even if in V&VI he is a ghost...

I don't agree Ratcat, if it wasn't for Obi wan and his poor attempt at training Anakin then none of new hope etc would have happened in the first place! Best to stick to the facts, as it's the 2nd of three, Lucas will make this a dark one (see Empire & Temple of Doom) so it's kinda obvious that the dark side will prevail in this one. For this reason I'm backing Palpatine for Ep.II....big up the Palpatine!

I think Ep3 will be even darker than Ep2. GL said so and it should be. It's not a trilogy like the OT or Temple of Doom. Ep2 and 3 will form the dark "second act" in the whole series now.

I think we will feel sympathy for OB1. We should or he'd be the biggest looser in the entire series: impatient, rude to "lesser" creatures, lousy Jedi Master, liar etc.
We may find ourselves torn between Anakin and OB1.

YEah, but you don't know that cos in the tiome frame of the film OB1 hasn't screwed up yet. 😉

Go Obi! Go Obi! Go Obi! Go Obi!

What got me is thae way that Darth Maul, the super-stylish, wish-he-had-more-screen time siper villain, captures everyone's hearts, everyone loves him...

And yet after he'skilled poor old Qui-Gon, you end up rooting for Obi-Wan to win the fight afterwards, even though you've barely seen any of him before either

That's good emotional film making for you.

And how come people always lay into Obi-Wan for cocking up, but always have hero worship for Yoda, who was responsbile as well? Where's your "War Makes not One Great" policy NOW, little green guy!

I agree. I think we may see that there is less of OB1 screwing up and more of Anakin being too old and the Jedi not knowing how to deal with a teenage padawan.

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I agree with u ratcat. OBi-wan didn't screw up that much. Yoda didn't even want to train, That means yoda thought that the council would have screwed up too.

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Mind you, I'm not ready to dispose of my idea that Yoda not wanting to train Anakin WAS his mistake, and he really should have done.

The overall question was a lot easier in the first two films. Everyone rooted for the side Han Solo was on, of course. Then there was the final mighty clash of the rooting-for titans when Han finally fought Boba Fett...

Hmm. Didn't go quite as planned.

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Lets not forget that Obi Wan agreeing to train Anakin was a PROMISE TO HIS DYING MASTER. Not something that I think Obi Wan would have been willing to take on otherwise. Qui Gon thought Anakin was the chosen one, but Obi Wan agreed with council more on the issue of Anakin's future being clouded and much fear being sensed in the boy. Yoda did not want to agree to Obi Wan training the boy, but ultimately had to respect Qui Gon's last wish. IMHO OC.

We also have not yet seen exactly where and how Obi Wan had been wrong or lacking in his attempt to train Anakin. I think you have to take into consideration the other events (frustration with the council, Shmi' death, Qui Gon's death, which I think should be included here, the situation with Padme and the constant influence of Sidious) as all factors in Anakin's downfall. Not all blame can be put on Obi Wan. Personally, I will probably "root" for Anakin as I think the sympathy factor will manifest itself with him throughout 2 and some of 3. At least until he becomes Vader and/or initiates or participates in his first act of darkness. But even then I'll root for him cause I just love Darth Vader. 😈

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Well, we DO know that OB1 screws up. So far he's not been very sympathetic in Ep1.

What is sympathetic about the older OB1 that indeed there are many causes for Anakin's fall, OB1 seems to take the blame. "I thought I could teach him just as well as Yoda. I was wrong."

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I'm just still worried that everyone wil look at Obi-Wan and say "you messed up, you big twonk".and then turn and look at Yoda and say "Hello, mighty perfect one! How may I serve thee?". Some people have no sense of proportion

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I have a question. What are u guy's fav. characters? Mine is ob1.

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Well, Ush, wouldn't that work in the scheme of things?..it would just add another layer to the whole story 😂

My favorite is Leia, phinney..🙂

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Luke & Vader are tied at first place. 🙂

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Qui-Gon. I'm a big defender of TPM as a movie, and Liam Neeson is one of my core arguments for it.

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I aheva n opinion on the TPM ment. I think Gui-Gon Jinn was the phantom menace, because He was the first one that brought anakin in the picture and made Obi-wan promise to train them. That of cource led to domination by the empire

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One more question. Do you guys think that ob1 royally screwd up, or that anakin was just to old
and to full of anger,that even yoda would not have benn able to train? Thats why he woundn't