Iceman and Magneto vs. Thor and Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Jesse7
When did I say that I posted the scans, I never have,

Originally posted by Jesse7
but when I use the example of when Supes absorbed the super star eater (which blows away a red giant), it means nothing eh?

Originally posted by Jesse7
I often admit its Avalon and or others who post them.

Originally posted by Jesse7
When did I say Validus knows nothing?

Originally posted by Jesse7
or claiming everyone thinks I am a dillusioned fanboy who knows nothing 😄

Originally posted by Jesse7
Secondly PC supes at his highest showings was abstract power level.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Highest showing? Meaning when the writters were smoking something, and made supes have bugs bunny like stupid powers?
lol, that does not make supes abstract. ❌
By that logic every hero that has some absurd showing like PC supes are automatically abstaract level as well? 😬

Superman PC was abstract lvl. That is why he was severly Depowered. He could crack planets with a stomp and reverse time with speed and traverse universes. His power lvls were abstract. He was a force of Nature with rediculous showings that didn't even fit the character concept. He went from Superman to IcandoanythingMan. Name something that PC couldn't do that is abstract in power. He certainly could move Solar Systems and juggle planets, change time, traverse time, pierce dimensions, and more. It is the MAIN reason he was retconned. He was too powerful.

Originally posted by bigbran
Not this time.
Validus is the one who called you, or nvrbeenwthagirl it.
I'll let someone else deal with this.

So its Validus and Nvr who have called me a dellusioned fan boy not you?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Superman PC was abstract lvl. That is why he was severly Depowered. He could crack planets with a stomp and reverse time with speed and traverse universes. His power lvls were abstract. He was a force of Nature with rediculous showings that didn't even fit the character concept. He went from Superman to IcandoanythingMan.

Originally posted by Jesse7
So its Validus and Nvr who have called me a dellusioned fan boy not you?

Originally posted by Validus
None of that stuff makes him abstract.

I don't see why not, when Chaos and Order of MArvel are abstract and Supes has done things they could not, such as vibrating shut/destroying other dimensions and universes effortlessly, also complete mastery and control of time.

Originally posted by Jesse7
I don't see why not, when Chaos and Order of MArvel are abstract and Supes has done things they could not, such as vibrating shut/destroying other dimensions and universes effortlessly, also complete mastery and control of time.

He was high skyfather level. Nothing more.

Originally posted by Jesse7
I don't see why not, when Chaos and Order of MArvel are abstract and Supes has done things they could not, such as vibrating shut/destroying other dimensions and universes effortlessly, also complete mastery and control of time.

I like you jesse some of your posts are entertaining but please stop now please. Feats don't make you an abstract purpose and a concept do.

Originally posted by Validus
He usually did crap like rub his hands together to seal holes in reality or something equally retarded. I've never seen a feat of his that put him beyond skyfather level and I'm pretty sure I know more about PC Supes or any DC character than you do.

Im not arguing that you don't, but the scans and feats still remain that do put him on abstract level, I guess being able to destroy bridging realities and dimensions, complete mastery of time and space doesn't mean Abstract?

Originally posted by Validus
None of that stuff makes him abstract.

Well maybe if you read what I write instead of what you want to see. No where in my post does it say Superman was abstract. Reread it again and see what it says. Thank you for your time.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Superman PC was abstract lvl.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well maybe if you read what I write instead of what you want to see. No where in my post does it say Superman was abstract. Reread it again and see what it says. Thank you for your time.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Superman PC was abstract lvl.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Im not arguing that you don't, but the scans and feats still remain that do put him on abstract level, I guess being able to destroy bridging realities and dimensions, complete mastery of time and space doesn't mean Abstract?

Originally posted by sexyking
I like you jesse some of your posts are entertaining but please stop now please. Feats don't make you an abstract purpose and a concept do.

If you noticed a few post back, I stated that at PC supes highest showings he was at abstract level "power", not importance, I use the term abstract as a gauge of power such as herald or skyfather level.

If you thought I meant as in importance then no, but current supes in importance along with DS is abstract level (not in power but in importance), since the source stated that without the existence of DS the universe would begin to fall apart, that and Supes is protected by the Source from being erased from the OE for a grand hidden purpose.

Originally posted by Validus
No it doesn't.

How is being able to effortless close/destroy/manipulate realities and universes (which are eternities) by vibrating and or rubbing his hands not put him on abstract level?

Originally posted by Jesse7
If you noticed a few post back, I stated that at PC supes highest showings he was at abstract level "power", not importance, I use the term abstract as a gauge of power such as herald or skyfather level.

If you thought I meant as in importance then no, but current supes in importance along with DS is abstract level (not in power but in importance), since the source stated that without the existence of DS the universe would begin to fall apart, that and Supes is protected by the Source from being erased from the OE for a grand hidden purpose.

Originally posted by bigbran

Are you dense or what? Does it say PC superman was Abstract or Abstract lvl? I said he was abstract lvl. Get a clue.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Are you dense or what? Does it say PC superman was Abstract or Abstract lvl? I said he was abstract lvl. Get a clue.

Don't insult me, just to tell me something.

Originally posted by Jesse7
How is being able to effortless close/destroy/manipulate realities and universes(which are eternities (by vibrating and or rubbing his hands) not put him on abstract level?