90 Minutes in Heaven

Started by JesusIsAlive27 pages
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You know this... how?

The same way that you know that George Washington existed: non-firsthand knowledge (i.e. the unsubstantiated testimony of another person).

Originally posted by Dolos
I'm dying right now.

From laughter?

😄

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
From laughter?

😄

That almost happened to me once.

It was a good joke.

Mickey Robinson had a lifestyle of adventurous “live for the moment” pleasure until his world was savagely interrupted by human mortality. Pulled from a blazing airplane crash. He sustained numerous catastrophic wounds. For all practical purposes he suffered the loss of everything image, gifts, relationships, and destiny. A death's door encounter took him to the third heaven and God Almighty began an amazing recovery with signs wonders and miracles and spiritual revelation. He is recognized as a gifted international speaker/author. He has published books, articles, and media. Hearing his message is one of triumph over tragedy, hope out of darkness through the power of the Holy Spirit.

YouTube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk9oPOVCsjw

YouTube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l1_XO-KgAE

jia, please stop posting links to youtube. You don't need them. Just explain in your own words. I am afraid that if you continue to post links to youtube, you will be permanently banned. I enjoy talking to you, when you talk to me, but a link to youtube is not talking.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
jia, please stop posting links to youtube. You don't need them. Just explain in your own words. I am afraid that if you continue to post links to youtube, you will be permanently banned. I enjoy talking to you, when you talk to me, but a link to youtube is not talking.

I did talk to you.

Look up 2 posts that way ^ and you'll see a paragraph of me talking to you, and others on this forum.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I did talk to you.

Look up 2 posts that way ^ and you'll see a [b]paragraph of me talking to you, and others on this forum. [/B]

Wow! you missed my point. Let me put it bluntly:

I would like to continue talking to you in the future, but I can't do that if you are permanently banned.

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Wow! you missed my point. Let me put it bluntly:

I would like to continue talking to you in the future, but I can't do that if you are permanently banned.

How can I give a testimony that is not mine?

The guy giving his testimony on YouTube died, went to Heaven, and came back from the dead to tell us about his experience.

How can I give that testimony in my own words.

I'd would be writing until Hell froze over.

My understanding about links and YouTube is that excessive, repeat posts with the same links was spam, not the mere use of a link to a website, or YouTube clip that supports what I'm talking about.

If that were the case everyone on here would be banned, because all use YouTube clips and links to websites, right?

I mean Digi provided links in his atheism thread more than once,

Originally posted by Digi
http://faithinterrupted.blogspot.com/2013/11/top-seven-things-people-think-are-in.html

This is a wonderful critical look at many concepts that people seem to think are Biblically justified. I don't imagine that it ends the conversation; some Biblical scholars may take issue with some of the assertions. But it's a different take on many ideas that we take for granted.

Among the ideas debunked:
[list]- "God helps those who help themselves" (a quote attributed to Shaespeare, not scripture);
- That we must accept Jesus into our hearts as our personal Lord and Savior (a Western Enlightenment development as we placed more emphasis on the individual, not necessarily a requirement for salvation);
- The Rapture (loosely pulled together from wildly varying passages in different Bible verses, and mostly inherited from fictitious works of the past century);
- And, that "everything happens for a reason," a plague of an idea that infects more than just Christianity these days.[/list]

To be clear, these ideas themselves aren't necessarily harmful (though they all can be). But turning a critical eye to them to see where their justification lies - and if it is credibly backed - should be a prerequisite for any major religious idea.

Originally posted by Digi
We've moved the goalposts pretty far in our debate. I'm not even sure we're arguing anymore on certain topics. But you wanted to steer us toward your version of Buddhism, so I happily followed. Let's try to work this back around to something resembling atheism...because I feel like the last couple posts have been mostly you bringing up tangential ideas to discuss, ones that I don't necessarily have qualms with but have somehow found myself debating.

It's not a knock - you debate what you know, and some of our discussion ahs been interesting - but, like, we started this conversation talking about the merits (or lack thereof) of falsely attributing ideas to the Bible, and their potential negative repercussions in society.

Extrapolate. it's hard to know what I said that was wrong, or what you actually think, with ambiguous statements like this.

I don't think this is the voluminous topic you believe it to be. Why am I wrong?

Simultaneous incantation produced some Harry Potter links when I googled it. Mind giving me the cliff's notes version? You don't have to go into your personal story, just an overview. Because I doubt we live close enough to have a beer, but we do have an online discussion forum.

{edit} ok, I did find the 3000 realms: http://www.sgi.org/buddhism/buddhist-concepts/three-thousand-realms-in-a-single-moment-of-life.html

I find the summation interesting at the bottom: The practice developed by Nichiren and carried out within the SGI encourages people to make ceaseless efforts to manifest the limitless potential of their own life, to confront and overcome the obstacles to happiness both within themselves and in society and thereby, beginning where they are now, to make the world a better place.

Self-help, under the guise of religion. Don't get me wrong; those are awesome end goals. I'm happy for you if this is how you find strength, purpose, peace, etc. It's as valid a path as many others. But it's also no more "right" than any other path to the same basic, common sense goals. And is, essentially, secular in that it brings no supernatural beliefs with it. You can call it religion, that's fine...just understand that there are societal preconceptions of that term that will cause confusion about your beliefs and practices.

It's the same reason many atheists identify as humanist or free thinkers. It's to escape the idea that atheism needs to be its own religion, or that it's "against" religion. Atheism is the lack of a belief. Nothing else.

Never asked you to conform to my beliefs, but meh.

Ok, cool. But I can probably find people to whom ritual - religious or everyday activities - is an anathema to happy living. Ritual can help. But it's not a prerequisite for happiness. Just one potential tool.

Extrapolate. I still don't even know which quote(s) you've been referring to with these statements.

so if just using a link is grounds for banning someone then we'd all be banned.

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JIA why did you take Digi's quote from a unrelated thread and posted it into your thread?

Digi doesn't post dozens of youtube links on every post he makes. You do! Please get it!

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

I'd would be writing until Hell froze over.

Pretty sure Dante confirmed that hell is frozen over in his authentic work, which I believe for the same reason I believe in George Washington; someone told me and I trust them.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
JIA why did you take Digi's quote from a unrelated thread and posted it into your thread?

Digi doesn't post dozens of youtube links on every post he makes. You do! Please get it!

No, I have not done that since I was banned for doing so, yet you were concerned about me possibly being permanently banned for posting two YouTube clips or links.

I think your concern is unwarranted.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Pretty sure Dante confirmed that hell is frozen over in his authentic work, which I believe for the same reason I believe in George Washington; someone told me and I trust them.

You got that from 9 posts ^ from one of my posts right?

Hell will never freeze over.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
...Hell will never freeze over.

You are absolutely correct! The world of hell is timeless.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You got that from 9 posts ^ from one of my posts right?

Hell will never freeze over.

Official source please.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are absolutely correct! The world of hell is timeless.

I thought that was just the lowest level? Or rather, that time acts much differently the deeper you go.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
...I thought that was just the lowest level? Or rather, that time acts much differently the deeper you go.

No. Hell is one of the ten worlds. Hell is a state of mind. Therefore, hell cannot freeze over. How can a state of mind freeze over? It can't. 😉

Brain freeze.

/thread.

Originally posted by Robtard
Good Lord! So this guy was dead as in actually dead and then resuscitated after 90 minutes? That in itself seems extremely odd to me, he would have MAJOR brain damage from lack of oxygen to brain.

If I were him though, I'd sue the a-hole doctors that brought me back to life after 90 mins of death, brain damage aside; he was in heaven already, what happens now if he does something between now and the next time he dies to jeopardize his place in heaven next to good ole J.C.?

He lives to tell the world what he saw..which is the Power of God

Originally posted by Supra
He lives to tell the world what he saw..which is the Power of God

Why? It sounds a bit boastful. Why would an all powerful God boast?