Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
finally...to shed light to shut people up...
And you think the comment of one person some how sheds some light on what we actually have read thru the years for ourselves? Get real. Becuz if he were shedding Light on ODin or The beyonder you would call him a noob and a marvel hater. Please Get lost.
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
As the guy who created Darkseid's respect thread and posted it on several boards ...He is nowhere near where some of you say. He never moved galaxies in his mind -- the closest thing was teleporting Apokolips and Daxam. The avatar thing applies only to fights from 1997 and prior, if you accept it. Apokolips Now and S/B still count. As for New Gods' "true forms", they've barely been shown. The "galaxy-sized" thing comes NOT from their true forms per se, but the fact that the New Genesis/Apokolips universe is so much larger than our own. The Boom Tubes they use adjust your size as you travel through them. As shown in NG vol. 3 #10, when Boom Tubed to New Genesis, Superman was so large in relation to mainstream DCU planets that he could hold them in the palm of his hand (this was shown when he and Orion interacted with another universe via a tear in reality). The size of a New God in their universe doesn't matter much in a fight, since the Boom Tube adjusts them when they go to Earth. Granted, when Darkseid teleports people via Omegas, they end up the right size. I guess you could consider it a cool feat that he can adjust sizes too.
This board seems to have some weird mass underrating/overrating of Darkseid going on. It's like half of the people in a debate say he's some universe-crushing beyond Galactus cosmic, and the other half acts like Superman owns him a majority. I guess if you combine those two extremes, the result would be that he's about a low-mid Skyfather leveller, which is where he actually is on average.
Anyway, the team wins the VAST majority. If you took Thanos out of this, it'd be a better fight.
A lot of people just got owned 😱
Originally posted by B dot Rob
The same person who's thread you and some other poster with 6's in their name (can't think of him right now) keep instructing people to read when they remind you that Darky is barely skyfather.
um no. ur wrong. that is not even the same person. barely sky father is rediculous. Darksied absorbed the powers of thousands of pantheons across the cosmos. I dont' think this person remembers that too well. Barely sky father my ass.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
🤨 Are you kidding me, that's jimmy-san/chan.He's probably the one of the most knowledgeable guys out there on the subject.
Not when he says a low to mid lvl sky father is all Darksied is when Darksied has destroyed thousands of pantheons across the universe and absorbed thier power. Not when he had Odin AND highfather quaking in thier boots at his universal rampage. Not when he swapped planets around with his mind. That doesn't sound like any mid to low lvl sky father I ever heard of. Or the fact that Darksied and Highfather's fight would destroy galaxies. Low to mid sky father my ass, like I said.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not when he says a low to mid lvl sky father is all Darksied is when Darksied has destroyed thousands of pantheons across the universe and absorbed thier power. Not when he had Odin AND highfather quaking in thier boots at his universal rampage. Not when he swapped planets around with his mind. That doesn't sound like any mid to low lvl sky father I ever heard of. Or the fact that Darksied and Highfather's fight would destroy galaxies. Low to mid sky father my ass, like I said.
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Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
hysterical "quaking in their boots at his universal rampage".perhaps, you should go and check out his respect thread for reference.
I don't need to. You should check it out. OR did you miss the part where he was decimating and absorbing entire pantheons across the universe?
Darkseid is a high sky father in the DC universe, but he did defeat alot of gods in his universe that are not sh**. Not all race of gods are the same in power, becuase Dc Odin and Zeus wouldn't want too fight him doesn't mean Marvels skyfathers and other gods wouldn't, each universe the rules are different, if Darkseid came to the Marvel universe his power wouldn't be the same as in Dc universe like the omega efect, the infinity gaunlet didn't work in the Dc universe either.
Adam Warlock & Thanos both are beyond Order & Chaoos, alone would stomp a mudhole in Darkseid, especially the soul gem if he can take Darkseid soul into soul world Darkseid is in a world of trouble, Adam Warlock is unbeatable in soul world.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Darkseid is a high sky father in the DC universe, but he did defeat alot of gods in his universe that are not sh**. Not all race of gods are the same in power, becuase Dc Odin and Zeus wouldn't want too fight him doesn't mean Marvels skyfathers and other gods wouldn't, each universe the rules are different, if Darkseid came to the Marvel universe his power wouldn't be the same as in Dc universe like the omega efect, the infinity gaunlet didn't work in the Dc universe either.Adam Warlock & Thanos both are beyond Order & Chaoos, alone would stomp a mudhole in Darkseid, especially the soul gem if he can take Darkseid soul into soul world Darkseid is in a world of trouble, Adam Warlock is unbeatable in soul world.
Neither Adam Worlock nor Thanos Can Take Darksied. Neither have the on panel feats to match Darksied. And To Assume that DC's pantheons are some how weaker than marvel's is unfounded. There is no proof of this. Even if every pantheon in the DC universe only had the power of The justice league, imagine someone absorbing thousands of justice leagues. I get sick of people just assuming stuff about DC's Pantheon's and cosmics with no proof to back up thier claims. And saying Thanos and Warlock being beyond Chaos and Order is not saying much. Darksied's very presence had the Lords of Chaos in the DCU scared of him.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't need to. You should check it out. OR did you miss the part where he was decimating and absorbing entire pantheons across the universe?
I didn't miss the part. In fact, there was never an actual on panel feat of him doing so except one of him doing against a single god. We don't even know exactly how long this 'universal rampage' went because afaik, he continually did so in a unspecified amount of time. Heck, you don't even know if he did it on his own or sent Apokolips forces after them first then absorbed them while weakened. He wasn't even a match for DC Odin on his own powers without resorting to stealing other gods powers.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
I didn't miss the part. In fact, there was never an actual on panel feat of him doing so except one of him doing against a single god. We don't even know exactly how long this 'universal rampage' went because afaik, he continually did so in a specified amount of time. Heck, you don't even know if he did it on his own or sent Apokolips forces after them first then absorbed them while weakened. He wasn't even a match for DC Odin on his own powers without resorting to stealing other gods powers.
Is it shown on panel that he wasn't a match for DC's Odin? Even if he sent his troops against the pantheons, Darksied has been shown to be superior to all of his forces combined. And even if they did all the dirty work, he was still the one absorbing the pantheon's power. And It was high father who told of Darksied's Rampage. To my knowlege, he has never been shown to lie about the power or goings on of Darksied.
Originally posted by the Darkone
I saw pictures of him fighting other gods using tech as well his own powers plus he had prep time. But still this same Darkseid who gets his ass kicked by superman, but it's an avatar of Darkseid it doesn't matter superman has shown you can beat Darkseidavatar.
A darksied avatar is but a sliver or fraction of the Near infinite might that darkseid posseses. And each avatar is a team wrecker.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
That's why Jimmy equated him to a mid level skyfather now. No matter how much DC people hate to admit it, Darkseid is officially been editorially toned down. He might be still be the same PC Darkseid as before technically, but is currently far beneath his former glory.
Don't count it. Most of you will be shitting your pants when you see how powerful the New darkseid really is AFTER he's revealed in the Post Infinite Crisis universe. Get ready for every one to be in awe. I got a heads up on it and he will be shown to be beyond any sky father.