Current Cap Marvel vs Darkseid

Started by Jimmy-Chan8 pages

Being a Lord of Order doesn't inherently give you the edge over Darkseid IMO:

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Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Dude, the phrase "They are so much weaker than his true form that they can even be beaten in battle, if the opponent is strong enough" is clearly stating that he hasn't lost before in his true form. Just because it's phrased in a poetic way doesn't change its meaning.

Of course you read it the way you want to,

1. he never says hes never lost in his true form.

Originally posted by Fanboy
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Yeah and I don't really think Captain Marvel would have the power to do that physically.

I still don't get how Batman was the only one sitting up?

Just in case you missed it.

Originally posted by bigbran
Ok then, you know when he fought Spectre?
Why was he remade again, because I don't think an avatar is important to the source.
Wouldn't this also mean that the real Darky fought Spectre?

Huh, I actually missed the fact that Darkseid was the last being among the Skyfathers that EJ gained control of.

Originally posted by bigbran
Ok then, you know when he fought Spectre?
Why was he remade again, because I don't think an avatar is important to the source.

That issue came out well after the avatar retcon. As has been stated, the retcon only applies to fights before 1997. The Spectre issue came out after the year 2000.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Huh, I actually missed the fact that Darkseid was the last being among the Skyfathers that EJ gained control of.

That issue came out well after the avatar retcon. As has been stated, the retcon only applies to fights before 1997. The Spectre issue came out after the year 2000.

So, it was the real one then?

Originally posted by David_Richards
Of course you read it the way you want to,

1. he never says hes never lost in his true form.

I read it that way because it's the only remotely logical way possible to read it. He states that the way you can tell his avatars are weaker than his true form is that they have lost in battle.

If I say "the difference between a bull and a cow is that a bull is male", does it matter that I didn't say "a cow is female" ...? The fact that the above phrasing eliminates any possible interpretation other than that the cow is a female makes it just as clear as if I had outright said "the cow is female."

This isn't rocket science -- it's basic reading comprehension.

Originally posted by bigbran
So, it was the real one then?

Yeah.

BTW, Super Powers is arguably out of continuity. The first series was clearly intended to be in continuity, but the third series is too hokey to be. The second series, where this scan comes from, referenced an in-continuity event (Hunger Dogs), but was stated to be out of continuity in a DC Who's Who. I no longer reference feats from there because of the controversy surrounding it.

Originally posted by badabing
bnone Eh, no.
Anyway, it's going to be fun to see if Billy has the power to take out Darkseid.

He should

Originally posted by Fanboy
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Yeah and I don't really think Captain Marvel would have the power to do that physically.

Superman beat DS when he was close to the Sun. SM close to the sun is not even in Current CM's league. CM FTW

D-Side. Seriously, his job was to beat down sky fathers. That's just what he did. And don't give me the Superman fights. That was pure PIS and you all know it.

Originally posted by Fanboy
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Yeah and I don't really think Captain Marvel would have the power to do that physically.


If we take Cap at his word about being 100x stronger than normal, that would be easy to do.

Cap stated he was 100X stronger than normal? When was this? Certainly not in 52 Week 17 or 18. Perhaps you're referencing Trials of SHAZAM#1? I didn't read that.

When and how did Captain Marvel become a Lord of Order? If that's really the case then Darkseid may be outclassed afterall.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Cap stated he was 100X stronger than normal? When was this? Certainly not in 52 Week 17 or 18. Perhaps you're referencing Trials of SHAZAM#1? I didn't read that.

He stated this in 52 week 12

Originally posted by batdude123
D-Side. Seriously, his job was to beat down sky fathers. That's just what he did. And don't give me the Superman fights. That was pure PIS and you all know it.

I agree with you but it did happen.

Originally posted by Khem-Adam
When and how did Captain Marvel become a Lord of Order? If that's really the case then Darkseid may be outclassed afterall.

Shazzam Died, his power went to Captian Marvel, In the last issue his costume changed to more resemble Shazzam's. EH is beccomming the Wizard.

And Enlogated man *puke* is the new *puke* Dr Fate. 😠

Shazam wasn't a Lord of Order. And if the only power Marvel has is Shazam's, Darkseid should still be able to lay him low no matter how experienced he gets with it.

And if Elongated Man is the new Dr.Fate then there is no God.

He is in the new issue of 52 he gets the helmet.

And yes Shazzam is a Lord of Order, im reading day of vengance again and he is named one.

He got the helmet yes but we don't know if he is going to be Dr. Fate.

Shazam isn't a Lord of Order. He's a human wizard who was given powers by gods. Power that was well below the Lords at that. What issue are you reading?