the faithful bride...

Started by Jacky Sparrow6 pages

In the original script of 2:

What I'm wondering about is that there is nothing mentioned that Liz is crying at the end...it's written only that she doesn't drink, but why? I mean they have even written the kiss in detail, that she leans in again and so on, but why not the crying? Because it makes another sense, it's another perspective of her feeling, isn't it??

http://www.imsdb.com

Maybe they wanted her to be so emotionally drained she COULDN'T cry, you know? Like it's important that she doesn't drink because she can't very well toast a man she just sold out. But I've been so upset over things before that I just didn't have energy to cry. Maybe they were going for that and then changed their minds and directed Keira to cry.

so so sad. Elizabeth weeping over Jack. why didnt she just let it out! she kknows she wants him!!

Originally posted by Jacky Sparrow
In the original script of 2:

What I'm wondering about is that there is nothing mentioned that Liz is crying at the end...it's written only that she doesn't drink, but why? I mean they have even written the kiss in detail, that she leans in again and so on, but why not the crying? Because it makes another sense, it's another perspective of her feeling, isn't it??

http://www.imsdb.com

this isn't the writer's version of the script. fans put it together after seeing the movie.

so it wouldnt contain the actual hints from the writers. LOL.

wish it did, though

Haa here it is I found it 😄

JACK
What -- you don't have the medallion?

BARBOSSA
That fool woman took it. You be
careful around her, Jack -- she's
pretty enough, she'll steal your
heart -- but pure evil inside.

JACK
I'll watch my back.

OMF CRAB 😱 I cant believe this was on the first draft. They obviously had something on their mind with the J/L characters. Oh and the Liz kiising Jack on the cheek was so cute. Jack was more courages in that script. AWESOME

YAYAY!!! you found it!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂 hahaha, i KNOW!~! they're first version of film 1 was soooo good, but i understand why had to change things in case they didnt get to do more. they brought back nearly all the themes they had to cut out though. 🙂 i need to go back and re read this thread

lol were yall tryin' to find this thread?

Yes This thread Its Alive!!!

IT LIVES*evil laugh* *lightning*

Re: the faithful bride...

Originally posted by katelovespirate

"Jack leads Will toward a pub: the Faithful Bride, the
emblem over the door a politically incorrect painting of a
smiling woman holding a bouquet in her chained-and-manacled
hands."

Now if that isnt saying something about these writer's view of marriage, i dont know what does.... 😄

wow... i forgot all about that early script for cotbp. thats hilarious. the writers are obsessed with chains and manacles. but since Elizabeth succeeding in chaining Jack, i reckon that means they are married now. LOL jk jk... but there seems to be a lot of symbolic links between the two.

She chained him to the Pearl and I would think she married him to his beloved Pearl forever, or so she thought.

The only semblance I see in that scene is that Jack put chains around her neck to escape in COTBP, and she chained him in DMC to escape and according to TnT, to save Will.

I just hope we don't hear her say. "Ya know Darlin', it would never have worked between us."

Lol, Liz is Jack's ball and chain. I think it is just another way for the writers to show they are questioning what true freedom is. Is Jack free, or is his concept of freedom really just holding him back? Many brides would disagree with the logo of the bar.

What's really interesting is that it is Barbossa of all people that warns Jack not to get close to Liz. I wonder if played differently, Barbossa and Liz's scenes could imply that....uh....rather than eating a bushel of apples as his first act of being able to feel, he might just take her into the captain's quarters and "play cards."

Anyone else think that Barbossa might have had a little crush on her, or at least was attracted to her?

yes! I think he does.

the kraken was killed by davey's men. Beckett ordered to kill it.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
Lol, Liz is Jack's ball and chain. I think it is just another way for the writers to show they are questioning what true freedom is. Is Jack free, or is his concept of freedom really just holding him back? Many brides would disagree with the logo of the bar.

What's really interesting is that it is Barbossa of all people that warns Jack not to get close to Liz. I wonder if played differently, Barbossa and Liz's scenes could imply that....uh....rather than eating a bushel of apples as his first act of being able to feel, he might just take her into the captain's quarters and "play cards."

Anyone else think that Barbossa might have had a little crush on her, or at least was attracted to her?

yes! thank goodness i'm not the only one. LOL. i think Barbossa was just lonely and attracted to Elizabeth's bargaining skills, and it had probably been a long time since he was able to open up to anyone (think of his emotional speech to her before she stabs him), hahaha. but barbossa's view of attraction/romance is pretty skewed, as shown by his almost emotionally sadistic treatment of Elizabeth.

i love Barbossa. He is so complex. 🙂 and I also love that Barbossa is the one to warn jack in that script version. sort of shows how Barbossa understand's Jack's weaknesses better than Jack himself does

Yep, that's me Barbossa. I need to write some more diaries. Sorry off topic. Today, I just don't have any self control. 🙂

Lol, I understand.

Barbossa is so kill and I'm so excited he'll be back. Yeah, I'm not saying he's in love with Liz or wants to date her, but as a pirate, he's probably attracted to her for some of the same reasons Jack is: her resourcefulness, her spirit, her ability to remain calm under pressure. I think they both recognize when someone can make it in the pirate world and both see that in her and find it attractive. It's not every day a pure, pretty girl meets those requirements.
But I have a feeling he never forgave her for not being who she said she was. It will be interesting to see if he tries to kill her for revenge.

I cant wait to see Barbie and Elizabeth working together. They have such amazing chemistry as actors. Just like Barbie and Jack. The talent is too much.

Willofthewisp, random question, but do you often find yourself dreaming of your book getting made into a film and subsequently casting it with your favorite actors?