Black Panther vs Sabretooth

Originally posted by jinzin
He quoted me and put in his own context to what I had inferred by that. You know about context don't you? It's the thing you like to ignore for every debate.

How bout I refer you to that thread instead as everything I have to say about the matter can be found in there. Including the dozen or so things I proved to you guys flat out that got ignored.

No they don't. Wolverine changing clothes doesn't mean he's ate or slept to full health, it means he's changed his clothes. Onedumbs' assumptions about what he himself would do if he were in that situation has little merit to what Logan would do.

Maybe you can show me all the food in Logan's hideout, or a bed, hell even a bedroll?

Oh that's right, there wasn't one.

Once again ignoring the effects of jetlag, and once again ignoring that what was stated in Black Widows place about Logan.

If it wasn't worth bringin up in the story I heavily doubt that it would have been brought up several times.

Look just forget it. According to your logic then Wolverine didnt eat anything until....until when? I guess we have to wait until hes actually said hes eaten something or hes said he has instead of just using common sense.

edit: I vaguely remember you saying something about BW...just jog my memory what did she say, probably nonsense anyway.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Look just forget it. According to your logic then Wolverine didnt eat anything until....until when? I guess we have to wait until hes actually said hes eaten something or hes said he has instead of just using common sense.

edit: I vaguely remember you saying something about BW...just jog my memory what did she say, probably nonsense anyway.

Of course I wouldn't need to know when the last time Wolverine ate and slept to full capacity in most instances, but then again, in most instances, Wolverine isn't stated as being in a messed up state to begin with, and it's not referened repeatedly in most plots as directly effecting him. This one; it was.

I don't remeber what she she's off hand, somethin akin to offering Wolverine a place to rest which he objects to.

Originally posted by Trackz
it is standard equipment, his suit transforms into smart armor.
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The Dora Milaje had to fit Panther with his smart armour when he fought Killmonger. So his suit doesn't always transform into the smart armor, which means it isn't standard equipment.

After I convinced her I hadn't been followed, she took me to her place. Told me I could catch some shut-eye... said I looked like I needed it. An' I do -- but I ain't got time.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The Dora Milaje had to fit Panther with his smart armour when he fought Killmonger. So his suit doesn't always transform into the smart armor, which means it isn't standard equipment.

Originally posted by Trackz
he's used his smart armor as standard equipment several times, against ironman, dr. doom, and captain america, one appearance of him not having it doesnt make it not standard equipment. his marvel bio says his suit is able to transform based on his thought patterns.

No he used the suit against Doom, Iron Man and Captain America, he didn't, however, use it as standard equipment.

It's called forethought, my friend. If Panther knows hes going to run into Doom or Iron Man, he is going to take precausings incase things go badly and he did. He had the smart armor against Cap because that "fight" happened right after his run in with Iron Man (where he changed into his smart armor in his aircraft).

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No he [b]used the suit against Doom, Iron Man and Captain America, he didn't, however, use it as standard equipment.

It's called forethought, my friend. If Panther knows hes going to run into Doom or Iron Man, he is going to take precausings incase things go badly and he did. He had the smart armor against Cap because that "fight" happened right after his run in with Iron Man (where he changed into his smart armor in his aircraft). [/B]

black panthers suit is stated to be able to morph, he can make it into a tuxedo or the smart armor at a whim. He doesnt change into his smart armor, its a morph function as shown he goes from his regular suit, to the smart armor, he doesnt put on his smart armor.

Originally posted by Trackz
he didnt know he was going to run into ironman, or fight against captain america...

black panthers suit is stated to be able to morph, he can make it into a tuxedo or the smart armor at a whim. He doesnt change into his smart armor, its a morph function as shown he goes from his regular suit, to the smart armor, he doesnt put on his smart armor.

Iron Man told him to mind his own business, I'm pretty sure Panther could anticpate a run in with the Iron-man when he decided to go to America considering Stark was incharge of SHIELD and the SRA at the time. Why else would have have brought the Ebon Blade with him?

Except he does change into the suit we've seen him do it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
After I convinced her I hadn't been followed, she took me to her place. Told me I could catch some shut-eye... said I looked like I needed it. An' I [b]do -- but I ain't got time.

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That means at that particular time he needed some sleep, that doesnt mean that when he fought Captain America he was starving and sleep deprived especially when we see him resting in his hideout.

I take that happens after his fight with Captain America.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
That means at that particular time he needed some sleep, that doesnt mean that when he fought Captain America he was starving and sleep deprived especially when we see him resting in his hideout.

I take that happens after his fight with Captain America.

and...
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He was simultaneaously reading newspapers, listening to the radio, and watching T.V. to pick up any lead of a trail when we see him in his hideout. He was actively trying to keep himself tuned into the entire worlds current events.. That's not resting... I'll ask you once again to supply proof of your claims or stfu.

Originally posted by jinzin
OH MY GOD! What a complete farce.
No what that means is he needed rest and relaxation at that time BECAUSE he didn't have any from before.... Yes it happens quite quickly after the Cap fight.

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I dont know about that ive been up to origins issue 6 and havnet even seen Black Widow. So you are exaggerating...again. Hell we see him in a boat trying to recover from a sword cut made by Captain America, that was probably at least 1 day afterwards. All you need to do is not sleep for one day to look sleep deprived. Considering that the demon blade was messing him up thats probably why. So she he meets BW at least two issues after the fight, thats enough time to be sleep deprived, that doesnt mean he wasnt sleeping before that, thats somethign you invented.

Originally posted by jinzin

He was simultaneaously reading newspapers, listening to the radio, and watching T.V. to pick up any lead of a trail when we see him in his hideout. He was actively trying to keep himself tuned into the entire worlds current events.. That's not resting... I'll ask you once again to supply proof of your claims or stfu.

I dont need to prove anything....you do. You're just making assumptions that he didnt eat or sleep properly when there is no evidence to indicate that, there is in some circumstances where he states it but not in others.

I might as well assume that every single time Wolverine is on a mission hes sleep deprived or starving. Unless its stated you cant assume such things.

I guess you're going to tell me that reading and listening to the radio affects his healing factor as well.

edit: I just read Origins issue 2 it doesnt same a god damn thing about him listening to the radio, in fact it looks like hes doing some sort of meditation.

edit: There is another page where we see him listening to the TV but thats not the case with the previous example. You are still exaggertaing and you're making it sound like listening to the radio and reading newspapers is some hard task.

In fact prior to the hearing the TV he was not reading anything he was just relaxing. Hell if you actually read the panels ( he was thinking about something else) he wasnt even paying attention to the TV until important information came on.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

I guess you're going to tell me that reading and listening to the radio affects his healing factor as well.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Iron Man told him to mind his own business, I'm pretty sure Panther could anticpate a run in with the Iron-man when he decided to go to America considering Stark was incharge of SHIELD and the SRA at the time. Why else would have have brought the Ebon Blade with him?

Except he does change into the suit we've seen him do it.

the smart armor however is shown to be a morph function in his suit, it's a part of his suit.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

I guess you're going to tell me that reading and listening to the radio affects his healing factor as well.

Originally posted by Trackz
from issue one to about issue 47 or so I dont recall him changing his suit once except on special occasions, maybe you have proof of this?

the smart armor however is shown to be a morph function in his suit, it's a part of his suit.

Right before his fight with Ironman he dispears into an aircraft and he comes out with his armor and the ebon sword.

Sabertooth would ultimately rip him apart.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Right before his fight with Ironman he dispears into an aircraft and he comes out with his armor and the ebon sword.

To pick the ebon sword maybe?

Originally posted by Bentley
To pick the ebon sword maybe?

Panther's energy daggers can disable Ironman's forcefield, it seems unlikely that Panther would retreat to get a weapon he doesn't need. After all according to Trackz the energy daggers are part of his standard gear. 🙄

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Panther's energy daggers can disable Ironman's forcefield, it seems unlikely that Panther would retreat to get a weapon he doesn't need. After all according to Trackz the energy daggers are part of his standard gear. 🙄

Maybe to overcome the shield that changes its own frequency that Iron-man prepared after getting his regular one beat by the daggers?

Originally posted by Bentley
Maybe to overcome the shield that changes its own frequency that Iron-man prepared after getting his regular one beat by the daggers?

Pretty sure Ironman's shield was always on a rotating frequency.