Pre Ret Con Beyonder Vs. THe Presence

Originally posted by Mr Master
Eternity (the Multi-verse) created a Galactus for EVERY Universe,

To give Eternity balance and keep Abraxas in check with his existence.

Again it does NOT mention Multi-Eternity or the Multi-verse, just ETERNITY!

But please go ahead and tell me it was Eternity, the Single Universe, that placed a Galactus in every Universe 😂

I'm just throwing pearls at you, take em or leave em.

Ignorance is bliss anyhow, so I wouldn't be surprised if you leave em.

oh by the way no the beyonder can't beat the presence he can't beat the marvel god ether the one above all.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What the hell is this dumb ass shit. I'm never owned. The logic has already been shown. The beyonder is Millions of times more powerful than the multiverse. The presence is infinite in power. What is so hard for you to understand that? Infinite beats any number, any day, no matter how big the number. Geez. It's so simple, most people get it.

Originally posted by mighty adam
are you saying dc cosmic are more powerful😖hifty:? see marvel has dc beat there yeah sure dc has way more powerful earth based heros but marvel has way more powerful and just more cosmics period.

When you can name 30 DC cosmics off the top of your head, then I'll take what you said with some merit. right now, your just blowing hot air.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
When you can name 30 DC cosmics off the top of your head, then I'll take what you said with some merit. right now, your just blowing hot air.

Originally posted by bigbran
Even though your right.
Your not backing up the Presence very well. And that is why he is saying your being owned.
I'm just trying to put the guys words in terms that he probably meant, (maybe) instead of a rude comment.
Ya dig?

I don't have to back the presence up any. all the scans of the beyonder show that he is not infinitely powerful. It's not hard to see. he's not even sure of himself. The reason that the presence is completely sure of himself at all times, is becuz he is COMPLETELY powerful. There is nothing more powerful than him. It's the PRESENCE"S power that gives him the authority. Not his all knowingness. Hell, Kismet is all knowing. She's not the presence.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
When you can name 30 DC cosmics off the top of your head, then I'll take what you said with some merit. right now, your just blowing hot air.

Originally posted by mighty adam
lol be easy im not trying to start with you just asking stop acting like a women don't take these forum to the heart learn to lean wit rorck wit it 💃

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sorry, I get picked on in these forums even when I'm actually right and winning.

Originally posted by Juntai
The DC creation is ever expanding. It is infinite. Narration described it when Eradicator returned to Earth to warn of Imperiex before Our Worlds at War. Ask Avalon for the scan sometime. I don't bother collecting them or finding them most of the time. I just know what I know. 😉 Even so, the infinitude of HYPERTIME and the DIMENSIONS still existed after anti-monitor.

SO DC creation and Beyonder's Universe are Equal,

like I said from the beginning,

STALEMATE!

Originally posted by Juntai
You've not proved me to be twisting words, in fact, it's quite contrary, given the last handful of posts.

I didn't want to use those terms, but your tongue has no hairs, so I obliged.

I rather say you misinterpreted the scans, which isn't something to go crazy over, I have in the past and I'm sure I still, I learn and move forawrd, but when I know I'm right, I'll defend that to the end.

Originally posted by Juntai
However the previous posts have shown you twisting scans left and right!

How intriguing, I felt you were twisting scans also.

Originally posted by Juntai
I could care less of what you think of my debating.
I personally think yours is quite foolish. Held together by small strings of miscontrued facts, complete misinformation, hyperbole and unproven theories.

F you too.

Originally posted by Juntai
The very idea of an infallible being is far more than Beyonder will ever be.
Look up infallible sometime.
Without equal. Without error.

Now your beginning to worry me,

Because I told you several times, I NEVER SAID Beyonder was INFALLIBLE!!!

TOAA and the Presence are Infallible

youpi

I could care less about infallibility, but in Power,

Beyonder > TOAA

Beyonder = Presence

Originally posted by Juntai
Try reading Paradise Lost sometime.
You seem as confused as Azmodel was.

try reading Marvel, you seem as confused as Grimm.

Originally posted by Juntai
The presence is not something that can be defeated.
It is everything.

The Beyonder was never trully defeated either,

well unless he allowed it:

Because:

Originally posted by bigbran
Why do you always say this?

It's true. It doesn't take an genious to see when people are picking with me.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't have to back the presence up any. all the scans of the beyonder show that he is not infinitely powerful. It's not hard to see.

What isn't hard to see is that Beyonder CREATED an INFINITE UNIVERSE

"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND.

So what's the difference between DC INFINITE and Marvel INFINITE?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sorry, I get picked on in these forums even when I'm actually right and winning. And people start with me all the time. When i'm not even bothering them. I just took u as a nother person attacking me.

Originally posted by bigbran
Even though your right.

No he is not.

Beyonder DID exactly what the Presence did, they BOTH Created INFINITE Universes.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sorry, I get picked on in these forums even when I'm actually right and winning.

Honestly, in all seriousness,

I don't think you've been right once.

And you winning?

hysterical2

Originally posted by Mr Master
SO DC creation and Beyonder's Universe are Equal,

like I said from the beginning,

STALEMATE!

I didn't want to use those terms, but your tongue has no hairs, so I obliged.

I rather say you misinterpreted the scans, which isn't something to go crazy over, I have in the past and I'm sure I still, I learn and move forawrd, but when I know I'm right, I'll defend that to the end.

How intriguing, I felt you were twisting scans also.

F you too.

Now your beginning to worry me,

Because I told you several times, I NEVER SAID Beyonder was INFALLIBLE!!!

TOAA and the Presence are Infallible

youpi

I could care less about infallibility, but in Power,

Beyonder > TOAA

Beyonder = Presence

try reading Marvel, you seem as confused as Grimm.

The Beyonder was never trully defeated either,

well unless he allowed it:

Because:

I"m sorry to say, you haven't been right. All your pretty scans and twisting words around and context to match your theory and back your position won't change the fact that the beyonder was MILLIONS of TIMES more powerful than the MU MULTIVERSE. Let's look at this very carefully now. The DCU"s Multiverse has always been displayed as bigger than Marvel's. WAAAAAAAAAy BIgger. THE DCU"S Multiverse was always stated as Infinite. PERIOD. Crisis on INFINITE Earths. YOu remember that nifty Title. The presence had already created an infinite multiverse. The beyonder didn't do any such thing. He created a universe that was EVER expanding. The presence doesn't have to expand anything. It just all is at one time. THe beyonder is stated on PANEL as being MILLIONS of TIMES more powerful than the MU. The PResence's power dwarfs that. HIS POWER IS ON PANEL AS INFINITE. There is nothing else to be discussed. All of your panels and your twisting and hyperbole will not change these facts. You my freind are done.

You are free to move about the cabin and call me names and go into a frenzy with more scans now. 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I"m sorry to say, you haven't been right. All your pretty scans and twisting words around and context to match your theory and back your position won't change the fact that the beyonder was MILLIONS of TIMES more powerful than the MU MULTIVERSE. Let's look at this very carefully now. The DCU"s Multiverse has always been displayed as bigger than Marvel's. WAAAAAAAAAy BIgger. THE DCU"S Multiverse was always stated as Infinite. PERIOD. Crisis on INFINITE Earths. YOu remember that nifty Title. The presence had already created an infinite multiverse. The beyonder didn't do any such thing. He created a universe that was EVER expanding. The presence doesn't have to expand anything. It just all is at one time. THe beyonder is stated on PANEL as being MILLIONS of TIMES more powerful than the MU. The PResence's power dwarfs that. HIS POWER IS ON PANEL AS INFINITE. There is nothing else to be discussed. All of your panels and your twisting and hyperbole will not change these facts.

You read garbage and now you come out your face, like you know something. 😆

What a joke you are.

The Presence created an Infinite Universe, and so DID the Beyonder

"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND"

Beyonder = the Presence

Originally posted by Mr Master
You read garbage and now you come out your face, like you know something. 😆

What a joke you are.

The Presence created an Infinite Universe, and so DID the Beyonder

"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND"

Beyonder = the Presence

How dare you insult me like that? I been saying the same damn thing in this thread forver. If you weren't such a DI** and actually took the time to read what I posted instead of just assuming I wasn't saying anything valid, you would know that. A hole. Don't bother debating with me anymore. You dont' read what I say anyway. you condesending blow hard.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Don't bother debating with me anymore. You dont' read what I say anyway.

😂

Unfortunately for my sanity I DO read every post, even your posts, which are ALL meaningless.

How can you argue now, when there is nothing you can say that changes the fact

THAT Beyonder CREATED an INFINITE UNIVERSE

"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND.

So what's the difference between DC INFINITE and Marvel INFINITE?

Come on, my child, what is your argument now?

What else do you have?

INFINITE vs INFINITE, who wins?

Originally posted by Mr Master
😂

Unfortunately for my sanity I DO read every post, even your posts, which are ALL meaningless.

How can you argue now, when there is nothing you can say that changes the fact

THAT Beyonder CREATED an INFINITE UNIVERSE

"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND.

So what's the difference between DC INFINITE and Marvel INFINITE?

Come on, my child, what is your argument now?

What else do you have?

INFINITE vs INFINITE, who wins?

Ok, Now I see that even tho most every one in this panel agrees that the presence beats the snot out of the beyonder, you just wont give it up. But Let me put in a way that even a child would understand. Bully A, The beyonder is Millions of times bigger than the Child. Bully A can do what ever he wants to the child becuz he is millions of times stronger and bigger than the child. Then, The child, goes to daddy, who is INFINITELY more powerful than both kids, and feels safe. NO matter how strong Bully A is over the child, He is still no where near the power of the FATHER. And let me state it one more time so that maybe you can understand it.

The Beyonder =Millions of Times more powerful than The MU
The Presence= INfinite Power.
INfinite power>>>>>>>>>Millions of times more powerful than The MU