Pre Ret Con Beyonder Vs. THe Presence

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok, now I have NEVER agreed that the Beyonder is Supreme. A badass, absolutly, but supreme in no way shape or form. And when was it stated that he made the multiverse up? I'll need a scan to understand that.
i think he was talking about post retcon beyonder, when he was revealed to be part of the universe, not multiverse

Originally posted by galan7777777
i think he was talking about post retcon beyonder, when he was revealed to be part of the universe, not multiverse

No I was refering to the scan Mr. M posted up where it said that All reality was a dream created by Beyonder.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No I was refering to the scan Mr. M posted up where it said that All reality was a dream created by Beyonder.
but that was post retcon beyonder correct? if so it cant be used in this pre retcon beyonder thread

The beyonder was not any where near God's power lvl. He even stated that he put a good portion of his power in the cup that killed death. God would have no problem making every single thing in the universe immortal. It wouldn't even dent his power. The beyonder looses this fight badly.

Originally posted by galan7777777
but that was post retcon beyonder correct? if so it cant be used in this pre retcon beyonder thread

No... It was Pre-retcon Beyonder, it was used in he and MM agaisnt the Omniverses.

yes it was said beyonder is millions of times more powerful blah, blah, blah...... but even that dosent compare to the infinate power of god

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonder was not any where near God's power lvl. He even stated that he put a good portion of his power in the cup that killed death. God would have no problem making every single thing in the universe immortal. It wouldn't even dent his power. The beyonder looses this fight badly.

Limits are relative:
Presence + Swapthing > GEB = Presence
Presence isnt truley omnipotent.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No... It was Pre-retcon Beyonder, it was used in he and MM agaisnt the Omniverses.
well if so then i apologize, but still their powers arent infinite

Originally posted by galan7777777
yes it was said beyonder is millions of times more powerful blah, blah, blah...... but even that dosent compare to the infinate power of god

I was refering to the post when Beyonder said that all reality was a dream created by him, read the thread again.

He was just "millions" because Molecule man was inside it.
They are almost at the same level.

Originally posted by galan7777777
well if so then i apologize, but still their powers arent infinite

Why?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I was refering to the post when Beyonder said that all reality was a dream created by him, read the thread again.

He was just "millions" because Molecule man was inside it.
They are almost at the same level.

ok, even if the beyonder is trillions of times more powerful then the multiverse combined........ what is that to infinite? im not doubting what the beyonder can do, he was badass, but he was not god

Originally posted by galan7777777
ok, even if the beyonder is trillions of times more powerful then the multiverse combined........ what is that to infinite? im not doubting what the beyonder can do, he was badass, but he was not god

You must understand the difference between: releasing powers millions of times all the other foreces in the Multi-verse combinded and being omni-potent.
Molecule man and Beyonder had access to the same power source, just that Beyonder could use the source (beyond-realm) to it's full potential.

Beyonder was everything inside and outside the Multi-verse, there is nothing more left.
Besides a universe alone is infinite.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No... It was Pre-retcon Beyonder, it was used in he and MM agaisnt the Omniverses.

Wait are you talking about the one where he says "I might have just dreamed all this up"? Cause that's far from proof. Even HE wasn't sure about that.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You must understand the difference between: releasing powers millions of times all the other foreces in the Multi-verse combinded and being omni-potent.
Molecule man and Beyonder had access to the same power source, just that Beyonder could use the source (beyond-realm) to it's full potential.

Beyonder was everything inside and outside the Multi-verse, there is nothing more left.
Besides a universe alone is infinite.

as long as the beyonder existed in the multiverse (including the beyond realms) he was part of gods creation, part of gods plan.....and a universe has infinite power? so u think that a single eternity's power is infinite?

Originally posted by galan7777777
as long as the beyonder existed in the multiverse (including the beyond realms) he was part of gods creation, part of gods plan.....and a universe has infinite power? so u think that a single eternity's power is infinite?

There was not actually a "God" back than...

Originally posted by galan7777777
as long as the beyonder existed in the multiverse (including the beyond realms) he was part of gods creation, part of gods plan.....and a universe has infinite power? so u think that a single eternity's power is infinite?

Yes it's stated that Eternity have infinite power.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
There was not actually a "God" back than...
well in these hypothetical threads, we have to assume there would be a god back then or else how could we compare them

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yes it's stated that Eternity have infinite power.
and multi-eternity may be infinate, but a single eternity clearly isnt..... if there is anything whos power is greater then a certain character, then that being does not possess infinate power

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
There was not actually a "God" back than...

😱 Wait now how does that work? Because I'm pretty sure there have been people in comics refering to God for a while now.