Don't Shave you Beards !

Started by Mr. Sandman6 pages
Originally posted by Regret
Not all people, there are those that are good and do great things without religion, but they are a severe minority. On the whole, man fails at being good, even with religion, imo. The absence of religion would be a detriment to man's attempts at being good.

Funny how America, a 'Christian' nation, has the highest crime rate in the world, while Japan, a 'Godless' country(90% believe there is no god) has the lowest crime rate on the planet.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
Funny how America, a 'Christian' nation, has the highest crime rate in the world, while Japan, a 'Godless' country(90% believe there is no god) has the lowest crime rate on the planet.

Ahhh...were are these stats from?

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
Funny how America, a 'Christian' nation, has the highest crime rate in the world, while Japan, a 'Godless' country(90% believe there is no god) has the lowest crime rate on the planet.

Japn doesn't have the lowest. Singapore does.

And i'm sure those aren't per-capita numbers.

Here's somethign at least:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=3231

As I said...his stats were wrong.

Yup. Where the hell did he get the 90% Godless? Is he counting Shintoism too?

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
Funny how America, a 'Christian' nation, has the highest crime rate in the world, while Japan, a 'Godless' country(90% believe there is no god) has the lowest crime rate on the planet.

Although, Shinto Japan believed until after the war that the Emperor was God. Given this, do they not believe in a God, or do they not admit to believing? Also, there are religions currently in Japan, and as far as Godless, they have only been without their "Emperor God" since the war, when he was forced to make a public announcement that he was not a God.

I there are religions in Japan....

I think this link is telling: its just a picture.

Countrys with stricter punishments are usually going to have lower rates of crime. Criminals in the us have little to fear in the way of retribution.

馃槅 except for capital punishment....which clearly condradicts your statement.

WHEEEEEE

The Japanese murder rate is about 1.1 per 100,000 people; West German has a rate of 3.9, Britain a rate of 9.1, and the U.S. 8.7 per 100,000 people.

http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/crime.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Japan

Today, about one to two million Japanese are Christians (about 1% of Japan's population). Most of them live in Western Japan where the missionaries' activities were greatest during the 16th century.

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2298.html

"Godless" as in the top 3 religion's view of the monotheistic triad excuse for a Judeo-Christian God.

And the original article I read: http://www.humaniststudies.org/enews/index.html?id=219&article=7

and it's source http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html

Originally posted by Alliance
馃槅 except for capital punishment....which clearly condradicts your statement.

As a professional int he correction system I can enlighten you some there. The death penalty is rarely carried out to the individuals givin it. They get up to 13 appeals and many just die on death row or knocked down to life in prison. I dont remember the exact stats but its higher than you would think. A very low % actually. Not that I advocate corporal punishment at all but its quit the deterrent. Eye for an eye ect.

I know it is rarely carried out, but the idea that we stil have it is rediculous...only countries like China, Iran, and North Kora have the death penalty...the legal system is not at all. In the civilized world it is illegal and crime is lower than in the US. I don't see it being an deterrent at all.

Originally posted by Alliance
I know it is rarely carried out, but the idea that we stil have it is rediculous...only countries like China, Iran, and North Kora have the death penalty...the legal system is not at all. In the civilized world it is illegal and crime is lower than in the US. I don't see it being an deterrent at all.

I agree, it's ineffective. I personally believe in harsher punishment, but to each their own.

I believe that the state has no right to take away someones life. Life in prison no parole.

Originally posted by Alliance
I know it is rarely carried out, but the idea that we stil have it is rediculous...only countries like China, Iran, and North Kora have the death penalty...the legal system is not at all. In the civilized world it is illegal and crime is lower than in the US. I don't see it being an deterrent at all.

Look at my post. I said the death penalty was not a deterrent. Its hardly ever used. I said harsher punishments were a deterrent. I have spoke to,,,,god knows how many inmates who say they dont mind prison. That the crime is worth the punishment. Crime is not lower in the us either, We now house more inmates than any country in the world. Our crime rate is horrible.

Originally posted by Alliance
I believe that the state has no right to take away someones life. Life in prison no parole.

I believe we should put serial killers on a barge, sail it to the middle of the Pacific, give one of them rations for a week, and come back a month later. Anyone who survives gets life without parole.

nah...thats called torture

Originally posted by Alliance
nah...thats called torture

In my mind, some deserve it.