Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Can you show the scan please? Or is it a pre-crisis issue?
It was post-crsis, check the Hal respect thread, if its not there, message Juanti he might have the scans (I don't have a scanner).
Yes hal had limitations, but Emerald twilight he overcame them, and this was Hal not parallax.
Originally posted by Jesse7
The fastest speed shown on panel that SS has moved at was 300 million times the speed of light, Flash has on panel instantly (didnt need acceleration) was able to move at and do things twentry trillion times the speed of light, SS is not going to even be able to react to this if some one of the runners speed can speed blitz SS.
Not really. You're only describing the fastest ones that were clocked and more famous(due to being in IG). The ones i could pick up was bending the fabric of matter as he goes. And that feat of flash was also done by gaining momentum before doing reaching those speeds.
Originally posted by galan7777777
u talk about the runner like he's slow lol! he has moved so fast it was thought he was using the space gem and with this gem someone can be anywhere or nowhere in an instant. One can even be in multiple places, or can move any object anywhere throughout the cosmos. One can also warp or rearrange space as they see fit to suit their purposes. (but it was revealed he wasnt using the gem to achieve such speeds)
I know the runner is not slow, but compared to Flash hes slow, SS whos fastest on panel speed feat (not speculation) was 300x the speed of light, Flash's on panel feat was when instantly (needed to acceleration) moved at twenty trillion times the speed of light, and then he wasn't even using the speed formula which takes him to a level where time is frozen, and moving at twenty trillion times the speed of light when time is frozen is, I don't even know how much/high that would be.
Flash has also on panel defeated instant warping before, as well as Flash being able to trascend space, time, and reality instanty (his race with Death)
Flash needs no acceleration (this was shown when he fought the hunter)
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Not really. You're only describing the fastest ones that were clocked and more famous(due to being in IG). The ones i could pick up was bending the fabric of matter as he goes. And that feat of flash was also done by gaining momentum before doing reaching those speeds.
Moving at twenty trillion times the light? Needed no acceleration and showed none.
When flash fought zoom and Flash used the speed formula to go to a level of speed where time is frozen and he can move at twentry trillion times the speed of light and more? Showed no and used no acceleration.
Flash showed clearly in his battle with the Hunter, yet again, that he needs no acceleration.
The runner only used the gem to instant teleport. He was always as fast as he was without the gem. I Have the scan. Its in the respect thread. I made the respect thread. 🙄
surfer(especially current surfer) can cosmic blast though any green lantern shield. Dont say this is ION either. regular hal goes down.
He stil is limited by will power. Hal has human limits on his will power.
Runner and surfer have virtually no limits. Plus one is immortal and surfer is nearly indestructable.
If flash can move a gagillion trillion stupillion miles per nano secons then he would never lose right? sadly he does lose. so get that crap outa here.
Originally posted by Jesse7
It was post-crsis, check the Hal respect thread, if its not there, message Juanti he might have the scans (I don't have a scanner).Yes hal had limitations, but Emerald twilight he overcame them, and this was Hal not parallax.
It's not there.
And are you counting ET hal. Isn't Hal parallax around that time. don't tell me your counting him too.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Moving at twenty trillion times the light? Needed no acceleration and showed none.When flash fought zoom and Flash used the speed formula to go to a level of speed where time is frozen and he can move at twentry trillion times the speed of light and more? Showed no and used no acceleration.
Flash showed clearly in his battle with the Hunter, yet again, that he needs no acceleration.
That and Flash's gained other speedsters sacrificing their speeds to improve his?
Originally posted by galan7777777
the runner toyed with surfer, and actually speedblitzed thanos, he is hardly the weak link
He is compared to the the other three. He's fast and cosmic and all that, but He doesn't have the combat showings of the other Three. He can't beat HAL period. His best best is against FLash. He has never fought a being like flash. That would be one ruff fight for him. Not that the flash would have it easy. it's just seems like the match is more even than people are saying.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirli agree that he dosent have the showings as some of the others, but the showings he does have are very impressive, and he is immortal what could flash or hal really do to him?
He is compared to the the other three. He's fast and cosmic and all that, but He doesn't have the combat showings of the other Three. He can't beat HAL period. His best best is against FLash. He has never fought a being like flash. That would be one ruff fight for him. Not that the flash would have it easy. it's just seems like the match is more even than people are saying.
Originally posted by galan7777777
i agree that he dosent have the showings as some of the others, but the showings he does have are very impressive, and he is immortal what could flash or hal really do to him?
Besides beat the crap out of him? immortality does not mean that you can't get ur ass handed to you. Even Galactus knows that. He's immortal and my God if he hasn't gotten some good beat downs. Immortality does not equal invincibility.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlactually galactus isnt truly immortal as the elders of the universe are, he has been killed, and runner could just speedblitz hal while surfer transported flash into a star or something
Besides beat the crap out of him? immortality does not mean that you can't get ur ass handed to you. Even Galactus knows that. He's immortal and my God if he hasn't gotten some good beat downs. Immortality does not equal invincibility.