Originally posted by Inhuman
You mean regular GL hal right? Not paralax right?
Because Current surfer beats regular GL hal more time than not.
When? Hal Jordan is doing stuff in this new POST IC that I have never seen him do before. Hal Jordan can do anything Kyle could do as GL and then some. "He's Still the best". Does that ring a bell?
Originally posted by galan7777777
thanos was speedblitzed by the runner while thanos had the time gem....so speed blitzing is possible
The time gem. Was he even using the time gem? if He was, the runner would have just been frozen. Thanos being in possesion of the artifact does not automatically mean he was using it.
I've been thinking about it, and Hal would actually have a hard time just mounting a real offence against the Runner. Think about it, Hals power depends on his will, right? Well since he's going to be finding himself LIKING the Runner, that's going to effect his attacks. I'm not saying that it would totally kill Hal's ability, just that IMO he's not going to be bringing his A game to the table.
And if Flash needs no time to accelerate in a planetary atmosphere, then how is Deathstroke able to keep up with him for the first few steps?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlyes but thanos didnt have a chance to use the time gem untill the runner stopped his assult
The time gem. Was he even using the time gem? if He was, the runner would have just been frozen. Thanos being in possesion of the artifact does not automatically mean he was using it.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I've been thinking about it, and Hal would actually have a hard time just mounting a real offence against the Runner. Think about it, Hals power depends on his will, right? Well since he's going to be finding himself LIKING the Runner, that's going to effect his attacks. I'm not saying that it would totally kill Hal's ability, just that IMO he's not going to be bringing his A game to the table.
For some reason that runner power had slipped my mind as well.
It looks even worst for hal & flash 🙁
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And exactly what can Silver Surfer do to Hal jordan to guantee such a quick win? And what can the Runner do that flash cannot? Hell Flash has been shown punking WHite martians and fighting quantum zealots. This battle is not as lopsided as people like to think it is. Maybe I should have made it Takion/flash so that it could really be lopsided. 😛
White martians are such a hunk of crap to use for an example they were punked by everyone.....................
Also Hal is human his "will" isn't infinte he will run out of steam then he dies.
There is no way Flash and Hal Jordan...two human beings could defeat The runner and Surfer...
not one win is coming their way....
Flash/GL couldn't even defeat Silver Surfer if it came down to it...
and the Runner housed Surfer with EASE....
this thread is a massacre...the puny humans have no shot...especially with the Surfer upgrade recently...
and Flash can steal speed...but the Runner is speed incarnate basically...Flash can't handle all of that...lol..he'd accidentally send himself forward through time and lose the battle on accident
Hal his willed himself to be able to beat the entire corps, and remake the universe. His will won't have any problem shakinig off the pathetic little power of the runner. This battle is 5/10 either way. And let's not forget that flash has that dandy trick of stealing his opponents speed all together. He could give the runner's speed to hal jordan. Making hal even harder for the surfer to keep up with while making the Runner stand still while flash does a couple of IMP on him.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hal his willed himself to be able to beat the entire corps, and remake the universe. His will won't have any problem shakinig off the pathetic little power of the runner. This battle is 5/10 either way. And let's not forget that flash has that dandy trick of stealing his opponents speed all together. He could give the runner's speed to hal jordan. Making hal even harder for the surfer to keep up with while making the Runner stand still while flash does a couple of IMP on him.
uh huh ok the team still loses to Runner/SS.
Flash isn't going to be able to act faster then SS or Runner so it's not like they get a leg up for stealing speed especially that much.
Team Human gets killed.
SS/runner wins this 8/10.. Flash being the weak point of the team.. both cosmics then tagteam Hal.. Still cant see Flash fight as well in space, he does'nt have much feat in that regards.. Against CB's who can easily destroys planetary mass they would bring the advantage to themselves fighting in space...
Originally posted by Jesse7
Flash moved at twenty trillion times the speed of light to save the population of korea, Flash has also used the speed formula well on earth multiple times, Flash also effortlessly transcends time, space, and reality well on earth via race with death.Flash 10/10
I am sorry but I have to stop you here. You keep talking about Flash moving at 20 trillion times the speed of light. If you are talking about the Korea incident, which I now know you are, you are going to need something else. In that very same page, the WRITER says that the Flash was moving at "NEAR LIGHT TRAVEL"
I think this is a case where you can't apply math to the comic (as most comics) the writer didn't realize how fast he would actually have to move to do this. You need better backup to say something like that.
I am not saying it is impossible that Flash moves that fast, but I need a LOT more proof.
What is to prevent SS from destroying the planet. He wouldn't die, nor would the runner. I think Flash would, and then if GL survives it is 2 on 1.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I am sorry but I have to stop you here. You keep talking about Flash moving at 20 trillion times the speed of light. If you are talking about the Korea incident, which I now know you are, you are going to need something else. In that very same page, the WRITER says that the Flash was moving at "NEAR LIGHT TRAVEL"I think this is a case where you can't apply math to the comic (as most comics) the writer didn't realize how fast he would actually have to move to do this. You need better backup to say something like that.
I am not saying it is impossible that Flash moves that fast, but I need a LOT more proof.
What is to prevent SS from destroying the planet. He wouldn't die, nor would the runner. I think Flash would, and then if GL survives it is 2 on 1.
lol so your saying because actual math is shown to prove he traveled at twenty trillion times the speed of light your going to dismiss it because some one said some thing else? Doesn't work that way on these boards, a feat is a feat, otherwise if you want to go purely by narraration I could use some nifty PIS examples for Flash, or for SS against him.
Board rules say no PIS, and PIS is subjevtive, but their is actual proof for flash's feat and its cannon, the panel description is inaccurate just as many are, but do we take hyperbole and speculative narrative over on panel feats that have been proen? No we don't.
If you want to get really technical, Flash uses the speed formula and e is now on a level where time is frozen yet he can still inteact, harm, destroy others on the non frozen level, yeah moving at his speeds on a frozen time line that has full access to the non frozen one means instant win.
And by the way I guess youve never seen Hals feats, the ring protects him from speed blitzes and allows him to react to them and move at those speeds.
Originally posted by Rols
Yeah hes talkin about that one in Korea, Just waitin for him to mention it.. Anyhow im pretty sure Hal would survived an attack of that kind but that would mean itd be SS/Runner vs Hal..
Waiting for me to mention it? Your a bit late I mentioned it was the korea incident a few post back.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Real life science<< Written descriptions in comics Jesse.If he left it open to debate, then its would hold.
But since the fool was dumb enough to say only near lightspeed, he's cut himself in the foot.
Then I guess I could take some on panel descriptions for SS, since by your knowledge they are more cannon on this site then actual explinations with proof? I don't think so, nor do I think would Avalon, Juanti, Mr. Masters, etc. would think so either
Well by your logic ill try to find some scans that involve SS and on panel narraration since they seem to be above actual proof in your set of logic and use them as undisputable proof.
Need I remind you how often people on panel are said to be immortal or all powerful, or unbeatable, and then they are killed, destroyed, erased, beaten, etc.
Proof and on panel showings>on panel narration.