Flash/Hal Jordan vs. The Runner and Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Validus
Thanks for repeating what I just said. Jesus Christ, you wonder why nobody respects you on this site.

You can't prove WW is 100x stronger than Namor. She has no feats to show that AT ALL. You're wrong (as usual). Accept it.

YOu think I care if anyone respects me on here. Half the people they do respect on here dont' even make good cases. People believe all the hyperbole and twisting of words on page. and they go wow in awe like the person just proved a point. making a bunch of noise with pretty scans and twisted words do not make for a respected debater IMO. And your the idiot saying WW has no feats to show that she is 100x stronger. But just to satisfy. I"ll do the research and make you look extra silly.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOu think I care if anyone respects me on here. Half the people they do respect on here dont' even make good cases. People believe all the hyperbole and twisting of words on page. and they go wow in awe like the person just proved a point. making a bunch of noise with pretty scans and twisted words do not make for a respected debater IMO. And your the idiot saying WW has no feats to show that she is 100x stronger. But just to satisfy. I"ll do the research and make you look extra silly.

Now you go make a desperate plunge into the WW Respect Thread looking for something to validate yourself. Everyone else knows how this will end. You looking like a fool and complaining about how I have a Marvel bias.

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crylaugh

5.98 sextillion metric tons is the weight of the Earth.

Divided by 3, That's A little under 2 sextillion Metric Tons each that SUperman, Wonder Woman, and Martain Manhunther were pulling WHen they moved the Earth.

Namor has Class 90 tons capability when he's fully hydrated. ANd He degrades the longer he is out of Water.

Class 90 is 180 thousand pounds.

Like I said, Wonder Woman is at least, 100 times stronger than Namor.

YOur the idiot that called me out on my statement. I knew what I was talking about. juts cuz you didn't like it, didn't mean I wasn't right. And it doesn't matter where I checked my info, as long as I checked it, to make sure my memory wasn't wrong, I can look at the respect thread until christ comes back. That is what it is there for. As a tool of reference. Or should I bring all of my comics with me into the office every day So i can scan them and put them on the sight? Get real.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
5.98 sextillion metric tons is the weight of the Earth.

Divided by 3, That's A little under 2 sextillion Metric Tons each that SUperman, Wonder Woman, and Martain Manhunther were pulling WHen they moved the Earth.

Namor has Class 90 tons capability when he's fully hydrated. ANd He degrades the longer he is out of Water.

Class 90 is 180 thousand pounds.

Like I said, Wonder Woman is at least, 100 times stronger than Namor.

YOur the idiot that called me out on my statement. I knew what I was talking about. juts cuz you didn't like it, didn't mean I wasn't right. And it doesn't matter where I checked my info, as long as I checked it, to make sure my memory wasn't wrong, I can look at the respect thread until christ comes back. That is what it is there for. As a tool of reference. Or should I bring all of my comics with me into the office every day So i can scan them and put them on the sight? Get real.

Originally posted by Validus
I find it funny how you can complain hyperbole while at the same time saying WW is 100x stronger than Namor. 😂

Now you go make a desperate plunge into the WW Respect Thread looking for something to validate yourself. Everyone else knows how this will end. You looking like a fool and complaining about how I have a Marvel bias.

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crylaugh

Is that how it ended? becuz In another thread I Said that Wonder Woman was at least 100 times Namor's strenght. You were the one who doesn't like me and tried to call me out on my claim. It seems that you are the one who looks a fool as the math does not lie. If you didn't find it your civic duty to try and challenge every single thing I said, you wouldn't be the one looking like the fool. As I have just backed up my statement. By the way, the statement wasn't even against you or to you. it was just a statement made in the thread. YOu made your self the Nvr Police and decided you had to attack every chance you got. Now you prove that she ISN"T at least 100 times the strength of namor. I did my job. you do urs.

Please stop this and debate the thread. I am still waiting for Jesse7 to respond to my posts

Last time I checked I can push a ford explorer but I cannot lift one over my head....................WW didn't lift the weight.

More importantly to the discussion Runner and SS don't have human durability or weakness's. Hal and Flash do, they lose🙂

Originally posted by Validus
First off Namor is Class 100. Second off, they were failing to move Earth. Kyle Rayner saved them. Third, you can't prove the weight of the Earth was equally supported by Superman, WW, and Manhunter. Fourth, I refuse to believe any place hired you work in an office.

Originally posted by Soleran
Last time I checked I can push a ford explorer but I cannot lift one over my head....................WW didn't lift the weight.

Then Thor didnt' lift the midgard serpent so much as pull it. Get real. You can push your explorer becuz of the ground and the reference of gravity in relation to what your doing.The Earth is held in place by the Suns Gravity. This gravity is spread evenly around the planet. There is no the earth is easier to push than lift. It's all the same.

They moved the earth. Your also forgetting that the earth sits in space as a spherical object. You can't push or lift the earth. You can only move it. Becuz there is nothing as a point of reference to differentiate a lift from a pull.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then

I had to edit your quote to show how much of your last comment added to the discussion and that's all that was left when I did that.

Runner and SS win this fight.

Originally posted by Soleran
I had to edit your quote to show how much of your last comment added to the discussion and that's all that was left when I did that.

Runner and SS win this fight.

Your insult not withstanding, My comment to what you posted still stands. There is no such thing as pushing and lifting when it comes to objects in space. There is no point of reference for push or lift. A celestial body can only be moved.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Is that how it ended? becuz In another thread I Said that Wonder Woman was at least 100 times Namor's strenght. You were the one who doesn't like me and tried to call me out on my claim. It seems that you are the one who looks a fool as the math does not lie. If you didn't find it your civic duty to try and challenge every single thing I said, you wouldn't be the one looking like the fool. As I have just backed up my statement. By the way, the statement wasn't even against you or to you. it was just a statement made in the thread. YOu made your self the Nvr Police and decided you had to attack every chance you got. Now you prove that she ISN"T at least 100 times the strength of namor. I did my job. you do urs.

You haven't proved a thing as is usual from you. Keep trying though.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually they didn't fail. They MOved it. Kyle saved them by helping them along. And secondly, What strenght feats do namor have that put him even above one billion pounds. Lastly, Even if WW was only moving one Tenth of the weight and the others were moving the other 90 percent, She would still be at least 100 times stronger than namor. Lastly, If WW wasn't moving an equal amount of the weight as the other two, then how come Her strength rating is exactly like Superman's? How come The spectre called her And superman two of the mightiest beings in existance.

Originally posted by Validus
You really don't have to repeat everything I said.

You haven't proved a thing as is usual from you. Keep trying though.

Oh so now your the Forum expert who decides who hasn't or has proved something. LMAO. get lost buddy. you made your self look stupid. Like I said, if you didn't make it your business to attack every thing I said, you wouldn't have had to look a fool. I already proved my statement. Which was not directed at you, or made to you.

Im going to split hairs here and say Thor actually did lift the serpent off the ground in a different issue. Though just barely. Just a bit of useless info from yours truly.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Oh so now your the Forum expert who decides who hasn't or has proved something. LMAO. get lost buddy. you made your self look stupid. Like I said, if you didn't make it your business to attack every thing I said, you wouldn't have had to look a fool. I already proved my statement. Which was not directed at you, or made to you.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your insult not withstanding, My comment to what you posted still stands. There is no such thing as pushing and lifting when it comes to objects in space. There is no point of reference for push or lift. A celestial body can only be moved.

Great, so what, engage Val in that piece I merely stated that to illustrate whatever you push/pull move doesn't equate to lifting strength that marvel uses for their system of strength.

I am saying that Runner and SS win.

Originally posted by Validus
The Spectre saying Superman and Wonder Woman are two of the mightiest beings is alive is pure hyperbole. Any moron can see that see that by just looking at what beings actually exist in the DCU. If you actually believe that trash you need more help than I thought.

Well from where i'm looking, it doesn't look to be trash. Anytime two beings can breifly hold the weight of the concieness of infinity. And there aren't many beings in comics who can move the earth. And since he didnt' say the Two mightiest beings in all creation, his statement still stands. Maybe you should stop trying to insult me and attack me and think about what you say before you say it.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Im going to split hairs here and say Thor actually did lift the serpent off the ground in a different issue. Though just barely. Just a bit of useless info from yours truly.

I already explained why I thought that Thor lifting the snake was at least the weight of the world. I also think Thor is 100's of times stronger than namor as well.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well from where i'm looking, it doesn't look to be trash. Anytime two beings can breifly hold the weight of the concieness of infinity. And there aren't many beings in comics who can move the earth. And since he didnt' say the Two mightiest beings in all creation, his statement still stands. Maybe you should stop trying to insult me and attack me and think about what you say before you say it.

You're right about there not being many beings who can the Earth. WW certainly isn't one of them. Her best lifting feat is Asmodel's chariot which was roughly the size of San Francisco.