Originally posted by capt it up
so your using an excuse becuase you can't prove a word of what you have said? that nice, so if you can't prove it then your just plain wrong.
I'm using no such excuse. I don't have the particular scans you long for because I just don't have them. I'm sorry I don't have every single showing of Beast.
Without them, I can't show you the truth. So I'll just have to be right and hope that you'll one day understand.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Like how Wolverine "beat" Thing in one stab 😆Logan apparently has mastered the art of the "somehow beat someone in one hit even though they have taken 100x worse than this and still kept fighting, that and its completely against the character" attack 😛 😄
If you took martial art's you would know that in the arm/ shoulder there is a pressure piont a rather large one and if you hit it will paralize you and make your arm quite useless for a time. Wolverine was shown to stabb in the genral area of that pressure piont which means he was more then likly aim for the piont.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I'm using no such excuse. I don't have the particular scans you long for because I just don't have them. I'm sorry I don't have every single showing of Beast.Without them, I can't show you the truth. So I'll just have to be right and hope that you'll one day understand.
seems kinda funny that you can't prove a thing you have been saying in this thread hmmm. looks like beast losses this one
Originally posted by capt it up
I have explained that to you about 100 times now.If you took martial art's you would know that in the arm/ shoulder there is a pressure piont a rather large one and if you hit it will paralize you and make your arm quite useless for a time. Wolverine was shown to stabb in the genral area of that pressure piont which means he was more then likly aim for the piont.
THE THING DOSENT HAVE A NORMAL HUMAN BODY!! 😠
God I cant say it any more clearly!
Attacks such as pressure points and what not wouldnt hurt Ben because his body isnt NORMAL!
Originally posted by Grimm22
THE THING DOSENT HAVE A NORMAL HUMAN BODY!! 😠God I cant say it any more clearly!
Attacks such as pressure points and what not wouldnt hurt Ben because his body isnt NORMAL!
Originally posted by capt it up
I happen to own every showing of beast excpt I think 2. You dont need every single showing to prove some thing. You don't have the prove to back up what you say and thats that.seems kinda funny that you can't prove a thing you have been saying in this thread hmmm. looks like beast losses this one
Perhaps you didn't get the exaggeration. I don't really own many Beast showings at all.
I don't have any Hulk showings either. But I know for a fact that he is really strong. Would you disagree? I don't have any evidence to show to you as proof, so I must be wrong.
Originally posted by capt it up
actaully he has the same structure as a human excpt much desner. he still has blood musslce and nerves. if not then when he kept changing back from thing to normal he would have died.
Err...why would he die? Piotr transforms into a being of solid organic steel. Back and forth. And yet, he doesn't die.
Knowledge of Wolverine or not, Grimm's knowledge of Thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your knowledge of the Thing.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Err...why would he die? Piotr transforms into a being of solid organic steel. Back and forth. And yet, he doesn't die.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Knowledge of Wolverine or not, Grimm's knowledge of Thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your knowledge of the Thing.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Perhaps you didn't get the exaggeration. I don't really own many Beast showings at all.I don't have any Hulk showings either. But I know for a fact that he is really strong. Would you disagree? I don't have any evidence to show to you as proof, so I must be wrong.
Originally posted by capt it up
defferences is I am not saying that beast is not superhumanly agile I am merely saying that there is no evdeicne that he more agile then wolverine who is also superhumanly agile. unless you can prove other wise which you can't then the fact is beast agility is on par with logans maby at best a slight edge which would not matter in battle since beast will be stabbed and then either die or get KOed
Answer my previous question.
"I don't have any Hulk showings either. But I know for a fact that he is really strong. Would you disagree? I don't have any evidence to show to you as proof, so I must be wrong."
Originally posted by capt it up
HMMM lets see shall we?
Lets
Originally posted by capt it up
Stamina goes to wolverine
Yup
Originally posted by capt it up
Fighting skill goes to wolverine
Yup
Originally posted by capt it up
Experience goes to wolverine
Yup
Originally posted by capt it up
urability goes to wolverine
Yup. Even without his healing factor he is still very resistant to pain and has that whole adamantium skeleton
Originally posted by capt it up
Healing factor goes to wolverine
Without a doubt
Originally posted by capt it up
Strength is a tossup since beast has no strength feats over wolverines unless you can prove other wise.
This goes to Beast. There was scan showing his strength from his time in the Avengers. Still only puts him at like 10 tons though
Originally posted by capt it up
Agility again a tossup since wolverine can match the feats’
Because Wolverine has more feats and Beast hardly has any. Doesn't mean Beast isn't as agile just means he hasn't had many opportunities to show it off. However his showing against Cap seems to say his agility would only be slightly above Wolverine's.
Originally posted by capt it up
Speed another tossup.
I'd also go with Beast on this. Not by much but an advantage nonetheless
Originally posted by capt it up
Reflex I believe would go to logan.
I say Beast. Logan has wicked reflexes but Beast has been shown to react faster than most of the X-men, when Wolverine is around. You can argue that since Wolverine can heal he doesn't feel the need to dodge certain things but on the same vein I can argue that he just couldn't react in time
Originally posted by capt it up
Beast has no advantage in this fight. He may at best have a slight advantage in one maybe 2 areas.
He has a few. Not much but enough to ensure this isn't a curbstop
Originally posted by capt it up
Beast gets stabbed once and he ko or dead.
Think thats more of an exaggeration. Beast does have superhuman durability. I give him three hits
Originally posted by capt it up
Now if beast stabs wolverine, wolverine won’t even flinch
He'd flinch, but then heal
Originally posted by capt it up
actaully he has the same structure as a human excpt much desner. he still has blood musslce and nerves. if not then when he kept changing back from thing to normal he would have died.
No 😐
Ben's body is NOTHING like our bodies.
He dosent have any veins or anything like that.
He LOOKS like a human, but his inner structure is completely different than ours
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Answer my previous question."I don't have any Hulk showings either. But I know for a fact that he is really strong. Would you disagree? I don't have any evidence to show to you as proof, so I must be wrong."
you had no prove face it you got nuthing.
you have no prove to prove that beast has any agility advantage or speed advantage or even strength
Originally posted by marvelprince
This goes to Beast. There was scan showing his strength from his time in the Avengers. Still only puts him at like 10 tons though
Originally posted by marvelprince
Because Wolverine has more feats and Beast hardly has any. Doesn't mean Beast isn't as agile just means he hasn't had many opportunities to show it off. However his showing against Cap seems to say his agility would only be slightly above Wolverine's.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I'd also go with Beast on this. Not by much but an advantage nonetheless
Originally posted by marvelprince
I say Beast.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Logan has wicked reflexes but Beast has been shown to react faster than most of the X-men, when Wolverine is around. You can argue that since Wolverine can heal he doesn't feel the need to dodge certain things but on the same vein I can argue that he just couldn't react in time
Originally posted by marvelprince
He has a few. Not much but enough to ensure this isn't a curbstop
Originally posted by marvelprince
Think thats more of an exaggeration. Beast does have superhuman durability. I give him three hits