Beast vs. Wolverine

Started by Tshern10 pages

Originally posted by Grimm22
THE THING DOSENT HAVE A NORMAL HUMAN BODY!! 😠

God I cant say it any more clearly!

Attacks such as pressure points and what not wouldnt hurt Ben because his body isnt NORMAL!

And yet Gamora one-shotted him.

Originally posted by marvelprince
I say Beast. Logan has wicked reflexes but Beast has been shown to react faster than most of the X-men, when Wolverine is around. You can argue that since Wolverine can heal he doesn't feel the need to dodge certain things but on the same vein I can argue that he just couldn't react in time

not when wolverine's also displayed feats proving he can react in time. 😬

Originally posted by Tshern
And yet Gamora one-shotted him.

Scan?

Check the Infinity Crusade. I have the comic, but my scanner is f*cked.

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Thing was still wearing his fancy helmet.

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Beast has lots of agility feats, check everytime he trains the the danger room, that's a lot. There's a nice one in the Contests of Champions 1 too. Check the Danger series, he rips through some pretty impressive tech and saves Xavier..

Originally posted by capt it up
no it not it just denser unless u can prove other wise which I doubt you can

Another quick question.

Can you prove without a doubt that Thing is human-like? I mean, you're asking Grimm to prove it. But can you?

Originally posted by capt it up
now your trying to wiggle around the fact you said a whole bunch of crapp with out any prove.

you had no prove face it you got nuthing.

you have no prove to prove that beast has any agility advantage or speed advantage or even strength

And now you're still not answering my question. Wiggling or not, you're the one not following through here now.

Hey, I just thought of something. Since you have "every Beast showing" there is, why don't you go ahead and post every Beast showing you have? And ya know, without bias. I don't think that's asking too much. Just post them all, and then we'll compare the feats. This shouldn't be too hard for you to do, since you have all of Beast's showings afterall. Wouldn't you agree?

Originally posted by Grimm22
First, Beast is well as his name implies A BEAST!

Wolverine has animal senses, but he isnt an animal.

Beast is 😐

That was absolutely PATHETIC Grimm. 😆

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And now you're still not answering my question. Wiggling or not, you're the one not following through here now.

Hey, I just thought of something. Since you have "every Beast showing" there is, why don't you go ahead and post every Beast showing you have? And ya know, without bias. I don't think that's asking too much. Just post them all, and then we'll compare the feats. This shouldn't be too hard for you to do, since you have all of Beast's showings afterall. Wouldn't you agree?


how about no. Im not going to post beast showings to help u. not a chance in hell. That just be a waist of my time. not only would I have to drive about 2 and haft hours to my house but then I have to load on my cd's of every x-men issue and avenger issue. Then after I did that I would have to figure a way to post the pictures which again is no easy thing.
so no how about I don't. how about you not stated info with out the proper evdience to back it up.

your question was nuthing to do with this debate. yes we know beast is agile and superhuman agile but again so is wolverine and the two are close you would need evdeince to prove that one is more agile then the other which of course you do not have.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And now you're still not answering my question. Wiggling or not, you're the one not following through here now.

Hey, I just thought of something. Since you have "every Beast showing" there is, why don't you go ahead and post every Beast showing you have? And ya know, without bias. I don't think that's asking too much. Just post them all, and then we'll compare the feats. This shouldn't be too hard for you to do, since you have all of Beast's showings afterall. Wouldn't you agree?

He said he has all the Avengers comic, but still your correct on one part he could show some feats.
To prove to us he got the comic.

Like in Avengers 137, I think that is the first issue with beast because he applies for Avengers membership, and he proves himself in battle against the Stranger.

I think in that issue he also shows a lot of good agility skills.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Another quick question.

Can you prove without a doubt that Thing is human-like? I mean, you're asking Grimm to prove it. But can you?


I can once I go home for thanksgiving break. I think it the heaven run they had when they show that ben has musscles and blood under his rocks skin.

also u are the one saying ben structure is not like a humans so actaully u have to prove it not.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Another quick question.

Can you prove without a doubt that Thing is human-like? I mean, you're asking Grimm to prove it. But can you?

If this were, like, a real, actual, legal debate, though, the burden of truth would be on you, since you're claiming that Grimm is not, in fact, similar to a regular human, regarding his internal structure. Therefore, you would have to provide the "evidence." ✅

Not that I disagree with you, just saying...

Originally posted by H. S. 6
If this were, like, a real, actual, legal debate, though, the burden of truth would be on you, since you're claiming that Grimm is not, in fact, similar to a regular human, regarding his internal structure. Therefore, you would have to provide the "evidence." ✅

Not that I disagree with you, just saying...


yup this is true

Originally posted by H. S. 6
If this were, like, a real, actual, legal debate, though, the burden of truth would be on you, since you're claiming that Grimm is not, in fact, similar to a regular human, regarding his internal structure. Therefore, you would have to provide the "evidence." ✅

Not that I disagree with you, just saying...

Also true but to say you have all the avengers comics, but can't show a feat, I don't have all the comics, however I do remember some feats so I say the issue and than let him post it how about that??

Originally posted by Brutacus
Also true but to say you have all the avengers comics, but can't show a feat, I don't have all the comics, however I do remember some feats so I say the issue and than let him post it how about that??

u assume I have a scanner. I how ever can tell u the issues. but then why would I I am argueing for wolverine.

Also I have all the avenger comcis on cd rom. don't you just love computers. I need to have my parents drop that shit off I can't believe I left thaat and the x-men one at home lol. not that it really matter since I can't post the pictures any ways it won't let me

Ok fair enough but for his agility check avengers 137.
Pretty good agility feat of beast.

Originally posted by capt it up
how about no. Im not going to post beast showings to help u.

Ah. So what you're saying is, your comic book evidence WOULD in fact HELP my argument?

Interesting...interesting...holding back helpful information because it benefits you...

Okay. Just making sure I understand your motives here. Thanks anyway. 😉

Originally posted by capt it up
I can once I go home for thanksgiving break. I think it the heaven run they had when they show that ben has musscles and blood under his rocks skin.

also u are the one saying ben structure is not like a humans so actaully u have to prove it not.

Actually, I'm not the one saying anything. Grimm is. I just happen to agree with his correct assumption.

Now, the burden of proof lies on both of you. Can you prove without a doubt that what you say is true? I expect the same of Grimm.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Ah. So what you're saying is, your comic book evidence WOULD in fact HELP my argument?

Interesting...interesting...holding back helpful information because it benefits you...

Okay. Just making sure I understand your motives here. Thanks anyway. 😉


no not at all. there just no piont in posting his feats, becuase it in no way bennfits me. it will just mean I will ahve to find a wolevrine feat to match it or one thats better which I can and easiliy would. that just a lot of work. why would I post scanns to help the opposit side? also you just love to wiggle aroudn the fact you got nuthing.

Originally posted by capt it up
u assume I have a scanner. I how ever can tell u the issues. but then why would I I am argueing for wolverine.

Also I have all the avenger comcis on cd rom. don't you just love computers. I need to have my parents drop that shit off I can't believe I left thaat and the x-men one at home lol. not that it really matter since I can't post the pictures any ways it won't let me

Ah, this is getting better and better.

I thought you said you had all of the Avengers comics on disc (computer)? Last time I checked, a scanner isn't necessary to take images already on the computer.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, I'm not the one saying anything. Grimm is. I just happen to agree with his correct assumption.

Now, the burden of proof lies on both of you. Can you prove without a doubt that what you say is true? I expect the same of Grimm.


I dont need to prove shit till grimm does. since he the one saying his structure is not that of a humans.