Professor Hulk vs Wonder Woman in a fist fight

Started by xmarksthespot24 pages

Originally posted by olympian
They = Thor vs WW tread.

Im not even going to argue the "shoulds". Yeah, yeah. The main problem is that characters arent only about powerset, but what they do with it. Hulk is alot less versatible than Supes, but has beaten guys alike his powerset because of the way he uses his stuff.

This is the very reason why handbooks or secret files, suck to the bone. Comics arent a set of powerset grades to determin who should win or not. They are based on characters, how they use the stuff. The power debate is there but its obviously not -just- that.

Why, by your logic Spiderman should never be the comic star he is based only of his powerset. Want to answer, why he is?

Maybe because the way he uses it makes it so effective? Maybe thats a new word we should learn today.

I think you mean "By your logic Hercules can't beat a lot of people, which is preposterous."

i wonder if in this board someone ever read a Marvel's comic

Hulk,at the top of power, could beat the Justice League alone as Doomsday did with the difference that DD has no dynamic strenght (not comparable to Hulk's one)

Wonder Woman ? any version vs the Merged Hulk , she would last 3 panels and i'm generous

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
Hulk,at the top of power, could beat the Justice League
Chuckle. Chortle even.

Wonder Woman is so far above the Hulf strength wise it would take a very long time for his anger to make him mad enough so he would reach her level. He would be knocked out in minutes if that. She is stronger by far, and a better fighter. More skilled. Noty that she'd even need that.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Chuckle. Chortle even.

well actually he can, the hulk once lifted a 150 billion mountain............yes i know.......... but it still happened.

deal with it

but also the hulk at the top of his game is mindless hulk as he is not holding back, normal hulk though raged is never at full potentila(holding back) because of banners influence same for proffessor hulk.

i'm not saying she would lose but i don't care but hulk should'nt be taken lightlty espiically with his ability to adapt to ceratin situations

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
well actually he can, the hulk once lifted a 150 billion mountain............yes i know.......... but it still happened.

deal with it

but also the hulk at the top of his game is mindless hulk as he is not holding back, normal hulk though raged is never at full potentila(holding back) because of banners influence same for proffessor hulk.

i'm not saying she would lose but i don't care but hulk should'nt be taken lightlty espiically with his ability to adapt to ceratin situations

And Superman, WW, GL and Martian Manhunter can pull planets and moons together.

I'm assuming the most recognizable roster was the one that's being implied. The big 7. And Hulk doesn't stand a snowballs chance in a particularly warm day in hell against them all, alone.

Therefore chuckle and chortle.

[/QUOTE] I never said that Diana could use an IMP, what are you talking about.
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If your that big on feats as proof, then why don't you come up with some feats of Professer Hulks that happened at his base level, so that the rest of us, now what will qualify as proof of her supperior strength over his base. [/B][/QUOTE]

The figths against Red Norvell, Thor and Hercules, all at theyr peak. Stalemates with strength alone.

WW vs Sooperman = usually needs skills to tip the scales, not -just- strenght.

Should i make a drawing of the difference here, or ts too dark for one to notice? I mean its not even a matter of versability because CM and BA are also more versatible than the mere brick and against SM they usually stalemate him via strength alone as well.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I think you mean "By your logic Hercules can't beat a lot of people, which is preposterous."

Means if you insist of using that previous logic, then you dont get a single clue how comics work. You do seem to know alot of how handbooks work tho. Maybe we should all do a new forum. The Handbook one where we just use the powercharts to decide who wins or whatnot.

Originally posted by Richv1
Wonder Woman is so far above the Hulf strength wise it would take a very long time for his anger to make him mad enough so he would reach her level. He would be knocked out in minutes if that. She is stronger by far, and a better fighter. More skilled. Noty that she'd even need that.

Shes far above a guy that on official encounters has gone toe to toe with SM and punched him into orbit?

I do have a question tho, if Hulk takes THAT long to anger up, how the hack he stalemates top tiers then? Or is it that he doesnt take long at all, like comics constantly show.

Jeezas.

Originally posted by olympian
Means if you insist of using that previous logic, then you dont get a single clue how comics work. You do seem to know alot of how handbooks work tho. Maybe we should all do a new forum. The Handbook one where we just use the powercharts to decide who wins or whatnot.
Or we can just use the current forum and go by the current forum rules whereby a pure strength/durability brick akin to Hulk (or Hercules) loses to far more versatile characters like Superman or Martian Manhunter or Wonder Woman, because they're multifaceted in abilities, when they fight to the best of said abilities. This isn't a comic. It's the comic book versus forum.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
i wonder if in this board someone ever read a Marvel's comic

Hulk,at the top of power, could beat the Justice League alone as Doomsday did with the difference that DD has no dynamic strenght (not comparable to Hulk's one)

Wonder Woman ? any version vs the Merged Hulk , she would last 3 panels and i'm generous

hysterical2 crylaugh hysterical 😆 😂

In case you were wondering, I'm laughing at your stupidity. 😐

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
i wonder if in this board someone ever read a Marvel's comic

Hulk,at the top of power, could beat the Justice League alone as Doomsday did with the difference that DD has no dynamic strenght (not comparable to Hulk's one)

Wonder Woman ? any version vs the Merged Hulk , she would last 3 panels and i'm generous

😐

Im speechless

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Or we can just use the current forum and go by the current forum rules whereby a pure strength/durability brick akin to Hulk (or Hercules) loses to far more versatile characters like Superman or Martian Manhunter or Wonder Woman, because they're multifaceted in abilities, when they fight to the best of said abilities. This isn't a comic. It's the comic book versus forum.

A comic book versus forum that has its basis where, comics or handbooks? I have no problem whatsoever with saying you think a more versatible character will have the advantage, because it naturaly will. Its by saying that a brick has NO chances to win that your naturally wrong, unless you dont use the handbook logic.

The way you describe the rules makes it handbook reasoning. And i surely belive it isent what its intended, otherwise Rhino cant be a jobber based on powerset alone and neither can Superman stand to guys above his "class". How we know those two are wrong? Yeah, because we take those examples from comics.

Using the handbook logic for some debates and then the comics one for others sure stricks me as faulty. Just take a look at the current WW/Thor debate and compare with this one.

And the last post is equally as insane as those 10/10 for Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by olympian
The figths against Red Norvell, Thor and Hercules, all at theyr peak. Stalemates with strength alone. [/B]

Yes but those aren't examples of his BASE strength. YOU wanted examples of how she outclassed his BASE strength level. So I'm saying that your going to have to provide examples of his base strength level, so I know what qualifies. In other words, he can't be more than just prepared to fight, he can't have taken any hits, or been the subject of any real aggravation.

Prof- Merged Hulk track record consisted in having fougth those, including also Wonder Man and Classic Juggernaut. Even if he wasent at base level, considering that since the start of the respective figths he did well against them, how low you would think his base is?

WW loses another fight yet again.

Hulk is to much for her.

She loses this pure fist fight more often than not. And i give her the edge in a standart match where she can use her advantages.

I need to know what Hulk's greatest strength feat is while calm and while angry. He doesn't seem to be at her lvl in skills, speed, reflexes so I gotta see just how strong he can get. He's shouldered a mountain,not lifted it, he's punches somethings. But I need to see more. I just can't see him getting any more than 2/10.

If Batman can spar with WW then Hulk is taking her down, low, I mean really low.

Hulk is honestly just out of her league she needs to stick with barbie dolls and cooking.

2/10?

In a FIST figth?

Man, this thread has just gone to hell now. You`ve got to be kidding!

Oh, and since you asked: http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=96073

Originally posted by Soleran
If Batman can spar with WW then Hulk is taking her down, low, I mean really low.

Hulk is honestly just out of her league she needs to stick with barbie dolls and cooking.

You do know that WW can Depower herself for sparring matches right?

Does it matter Hulk has infinite rage and with infinite rage comes strength and that my friend is going to be the end of Diana.