Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let's Look at the Match upStrength= Even or Nearly Even ( Unless you can somehow conclusively say she is weaker than any of the top tiers.Which no one can. ONly speculation and obvious hateration. )
Dmg Resistance= Thor has a High Dmg resistance to Bulletns and Stuff Like that. Diana Has the Higher resistance to Blocking with vambraces and force field
Combat Speed= Diana
Reflexes= Even
Skill= Debatable.
Defense= WW's favor. Thor can block Blast and magic well. Diana Blocks Every thing well, Punches, Lasers, Magic blast, you name it.
Flight= Diana
Offense= Thor has the Clear advantage. Now how much it effects Diana, who is made to resist magical beings and was made to kill Gods, one can only speculate. IT may not work out like some would seem to think.Diana's Defense is Well suited to Thor's Offense. Diana has Shown High resistance to pretty much any Magical Based attack thor could throw. There will be no shrinking WW or turning her into anything or Teleporting her anywhere. Her sandles are every bit as good as transdimensional travel as Thor's Hammer. Circe can't turn Diana into anything and her Magical abilities are far above Thor's. Thor can get some good licks in with The weather and such. Not as many as people like to think. She can block Lighting fast punches and lasers and Omega effects and stuff.
With every thing being balanced out in one way or the other, The only thing Thor has on WW is that he is bullet proof and she is not. THo I can't figure out how she survives a light speed punch from the sun and crashes into the earth making a mile wide crater and isn't bullet proof. OH well What ever. Thor will get 5.5/10 victories do to the Boy factor. It's intersting to note that, WW, with all of her weapons, beats Thor 10/10 handily. The guantlet of Atlas would Send Thor to the emergency room, and The sword of hephastious would end his life if it lands one of her precision swipes.
Sweetie I like her too but, come on. No one is saying she wouldn't win just that he'd win more but, it's not like he beats her easily or even through the entire fight but he does win 6/10.✅
Originally posted by the Darkone
🤨 Thor is stronger than Wonder Woman, Thor pulled the midgard serpent which weights as much as earth with a tug, Thor flies 3x the speed of light and plus he can open portals, Thor is 2,000 years old has benn trained by his father and other gods in the art of war has been fighting since he was child. Thor's durability is greater and so also his reflexes, hell even Hella a death goddess couldn't see Thor since he was running so fast.Thor=Superman=Captain Marvel=Orion=Black Adam>>> Wonder Woman
I would go with > or maybe an > and a half.😬
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now why do you suppose That is? Maybe becuz he's the flag ship hero? IF he was stronger than her, as you proclaim, THen How come when he thought she was DOOMSDAY WHO KILLED LOIS, he didn't punch her into powder? He had just lost the love of his Life. WW wasn't even Combating him in bloodlust like he was her, and yet she lived? And they both came away very injured? Is that the kind of feats Ur talking about? Or How she and Him lifted the Spectre? The weight of the concious of the Cosmos? Seems like DC is going thru Great Lengths to show her in comparison to him in the strength Dept. What do you think? Superman has never had it as tuff battling any other hero like Diana. He always comes away very worn for the wear.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well what do you call it? How can you have a hero, Powered By SIX Gods, and then blessed with more power by GEAE and ZUES themselves, and then Allowed to Tap the entire pantheon for more powers as she needs them, be considered so low? If she was named Mighty Man,and had on some long johns, this wouldn't even be a discussion.
Some of this is true. I know for a fact if Diana had magical offensive powers she'd own his along with a few others asses but, she doesn't and the her vs superman thing is always weird to me.If he's weak against magic and she is pure magic shouldn't she be pounding him like cm does? also added with her skills compared to his which are basically nonexistent shouldn't she be owning him? I would so hate for the reason he owns her so many times to be because the boy girl debate or because he's more popular that would just kinda cheapen he victory.😬
But after all that is said and done can we please keep this o Thor and WW?
Originally posted by LethalFemme
Some of this is true. I know for a fact if Diana had magical offensive powers she'd own his along with a few others asses but, she doesn't and the her vs superman thing is always weird to me.If he's weak against magic and she is pure magic shouldn't she be pounding him like cm does? also added with her skills compared to his which are basically nonexistent shouldn't she be owning him? I would so hate for the reason he owns her so many times to be because the boy girl debate or because he's more popular that would just kinda cheapen he victory.😬
No.... just no.
Originally posted by LethalFemme
Some of this is true. I know for a fact if Diana had magical offensive powers she'd own his along with a few others asses but, she doesn't and the her vs superman thing is always weird to me.If he's weak against magic and she is pure magic shouldn't she be pounding him like cm does? also added with her skills compared to his which are basically nonexistent shouldn't she be owning him? I would so hate for the reason he owns her so many times to be because the boy girl debate or because he's more popular that would just kinda cheapen he victory.😬But after all that is said and done can we please keep this o Thor and WW?
What she needs to do is learn how to cook, seriously because obviously her learning how to fight isn't helping.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First off, If she can break his ribs, She can break any bone in his body. Which means she has the power to kill superman. Or don't you remember Max lord saying, either your going to kill superman or he's going to kill you. Max new what he was doing. He wanted to get either one or Both of them out of the way.And Doomsday beat the snot out of Wonder Woman after he had evolved. Maybe you should try that one again.
Doomsday had no strength feats beyond the comic ordinary in his first appearances, but the minute he Hurt Superman badly, We all knew that he was just as strong.
And one thing you forget, WW lifting the Meteor that was the size of an island was easy for her. No strain at all. She seems to be getting stronger as the comics go on.
So Just how strong does someone have to be to break one of the man of steels bones. Becuz if you have her being so far below Him in strength, your actually discrediting his Uber invulnerability. You can't have it both ways.
How strong you need to be? Top tier strong at least. And we know WW is. So is Thor. But not all top tiers are at the same level.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And just what are you basing your argument off of? You can't just spout what Thor is compared to Wonder Woman without listing her feats in comparison. Maybe becuz you don't know of any? Becuz according to DC, The Hyperclan, where just as fast as Superman, just as Tuff as Superman, just as strong as Superman. And Guess What? Wonder Woman Speed blitzed one and knocked him the **** out and then beat the crap out of Primaid, the best fighter amongst them. She has also stalemated a daxamite, Who are stronger than Superman is. She also beat the crap out of SuperWoman. An evil Kryptonian from the anti matter universe. So exactly Where are you getting your math from? Seems like you might need to go back and rethink your equation. It seems a bit off. Especially since Wonder Woman Gets her strength Str8 from the Gods and Captain Marvel gets his in portion. He doens't even have the strength of a God. He has the strength of a Demi-God. So tell me, Exactly How did you come up with this Formula? I'm so curious to know how did you compare strength Feats? Or speed feats? Do you have every single Wonder Woman appearance? Was it some issues that I missed? DId you happen to read the Book where wonder woman battled a clone of Doomsday that was stronger than the original? Did you catch when her and Superman held the Spectre? It didn't look like Her side was lower than superman's side. They were both shown to be using ALL of thier might. IF he was stronger, then How come the spectre wasn't lagging on WW's side? You do know about weight distibution right? IF you pick up something on one side, and I pick up somethign on the other side, and I"m weaker than you, then it's going to sag on my side right? That wasn't the case at all now was it? NOt with them. And THor is no where near as Tuff as Superman in the INvulnerable Dept. WW Broke Superman's Ribs, and used her Tiara to Cut his throat. SO again, Exactly how did you come up with your equation? I"m fascinated to know.
1- The Hyperclan were Superman ballpark, the same way MM is. They are martians. But MM isent SM -equal- despise being also top tier. You can see in the last match Superman had, that when there wasent no sneak attack he showed to be stronger than his opponent. Obviously being in the same ballpark means they *can* beat each other. But the strength difference is there.
2- When did WW speedblitz someone of the Hyperclan?
3- Heracles is a god like the others. And here is where the inconsistancy among the writers at DC shows. CM usually stalemates SM *alone* with having his strength. WW usually *needs" to use also skills to tip the scales. You also have of course to prove that in the DCU, having the strength of Gaea makes you automatically stronger than Heracles. Because WW level of strength is top tier. And CM level is top tier. So either:
a) WW doesnt have all Gaea`s strength.
b) Gaea`s whole strength is only top tier lvl.
c) She actually has Demeter`s strength, like Perez showed.
As for Captain Marvel, he either:
a) Has the full measure of Heracles strength. Wich is top tier.
b) Only has a portion. And here is where hell breaks loose. Because man, if CM only has a portion of Heracles and *still* makes it to the top tier (like we all know he does) then Heracles has to be automatically *above*.
Lets continue now.
- Yes WW battled a clone stronger than the original. So did the Champion who was actually Heracles. Guess what, they wer showed in the same ballpark, both lasting and figthing together until the end.
- We just know Superman is stronger because when they are trading punches he regulary comes up better. The difference isent obvioulsy *huge* that the artist would bother be that detailed and make WW`s side battling with the strain.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlIt's a sexist world we live in. That's why.
I still want to know why Bats said Cap and Superman Are equal and WW is not and Cap doesn't have the strength showings that superman does. how come cap gets this title of being equal and ww does not. And ww actually has hurt supers alot more than cap. What gives with that?