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Re: If God does exist, then why is hiding from us?
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
We are His "so-called" children and He loves us right, but loving parents are always around their children spiritually and emotionally but most importantly,..visually.
Fist,
I am a little confused by the post, dear. Are you wondering why God is not visible to us as his children? Cause in the mind of a believer, he is with us all day, every day. We pray to him, he lives within us and we feel the spirit of God.
Could you be a little more specific in terms of what you would like to chat about here? This does sound interesting, I just want to make sure I am fully understanding what you want here. Thank you. *smiles*
Perhaps after walking among men and being hung on a cross, he decided that it might be wise to allow man to do what he would for a bit, without much aid, they were called the Dark Ages for a reason 😆
Just to clear this up before someone comments:
The Dark ages were initially the 500 odd years from ~476 AD - ~1000 AD, coined by humanists critical of the lack of Latin literature during this period. The term then grew and expanded to refer to the entire backwardness of the period, and expanded the period to the ~17th or 18th century whenever the Age of Enlightenment occurred. But, even the Age of Enlightenment was considered a part of the Dark ages, and so someone referred to the period between ~476 to sometime in the early 19th century as being the Dark ages. It has since been altered somewhat by various scholars, but fact is someone referred to this period as the Dark Ages regardless of whether it was or is agreed upon.
Originally posted by Regret
Perhaps after walking among men and being hung on a cross, he decided that it might be wise to allow man to do what he would for a bit, without much aid, they were called the Dark Ages for a reason 😆
Though to be fair he wanted that to happen. Humans were bastards in doing it, but they had been doing it for a long time, and God apparently intended for it to happen to Jesus. It is hard to believe he would get all sulky when his plan went so well. And of course if that were the case it took him hundreds of years to withdraw - which is ironic because it happened when Christianity was doing well.
Just to clear this up before someone comments:The Dark ages were initially the 500 odd years from ~476 AD - ~1000 AD, coined by humanists critical of the lack of Latin literature during this period. The term then grew and expanded to refer to the entire backwardness of the period, and expanded the period to the ~17th or 18th century whenever the Age of Enlightenment occurred. But, even the Age of Enlightenment was considered a part of the Dark ages, and so someone referred to the period between ~476 to sometime in the early 19th century as being the Dark ages. It has since been altered somewhat by various scholars, but fact is someone referred to this period as the Dark Ages regardless of whether it was or is agreed upon.
True, but historians of late are becoming more and more reluctant to use the term which is horribly eurocentric and based upon the faulty concept held by those later on that the period following the western Roman Empires disintegration but before the enlightenment or Renaissance was lacking in value or "light" compared to the lamentably lost Roman Empire.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Though to be fair he wanted that to happen. Humans were bastards in doing it, but they had been doing it for a long time, and God apparently intended for it to happen to Jesus. It is hard to believe he would get all sulky when his plan went so well. And of course if that were the case it took him hundreds of years to withdraw - which is ironic because it happened when Christianity was doing well.
Yes, I was trying to be a bit facetious. Mormons believe that the true gospel of Christ began degrading around the end of the first century and beginning of the second BC. We like the fact that the Dark Ages were considered to have ended in the early nineteenth century 😉
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
True, but historians of late are becoming more and more reluctant to use the term which is horribly eurocentric and based upon the faulty concept held by those later on that the period following the western Roman Empires disintegration but before the enlightenment or Renaissance was lacking in value or "light" compared to the lamentably lost Roman Empire.
Yes, I know, but regardless of the change in historical view, the period was referred to as such. I'm not saying it was, but it was referred to as such 😉
Originally posted by Regret
Yes, I was trying to be a bit facetious.
I know, I was just using my serious voice.
Yes, I know, but regardless of the change in historical view, the period was referred to as such. I'm not saying it was, but it was referred to as such 😉
True, which is unfortunate when an inaccurate label made by people in the past without perspective sticks so well. A bit like "Gothic" in "Gothic Architecture" originally being derogatory in nature. Fortunately that didn't stick.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I know, I was just using my serious voice.
😆
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
True, which is unfortunate when an inaccurate label made by people in the past without perspective sticks so well. A bit like "Gothic" in "Gothic Architecture" originally being derogatory in nature. Fortunately that didn't stick.
Yes, there are many issues with it. LDS refer to them as the period when priesthood authority, that we recognize, was not present on the Earth
Originally posted by Regret
Yes, there are many issues with it. LDS refer to them as the period when priesthood authority, that we recognize, was not present on the Earth
Wouldn't that last then from the death of the last Disciple of Jesus up until the early 1800's with Joseph Smith? Or was there other holders of it in between that time?
Originally posted by Trickster
Why doesn't the poll have an option that denies the existence of God? 😉
I haven't voted yet, every time I look at it I get the giggles - "hiding for a reason" just makes me think he is playing a cosmic game of hide and seek. I'd be very upset if it turned out he was behind the lounge. Someone always hides there.
Basically, yes. When the twelve died off and were not replaced.
Well I guess from a religious stand point that would be qualifications for thinking of the period dark, but it seems harsh not to take into account human achievement in the time (like the "no Latin writings" ones who labeled the period that failing to also take into accounts the East and the west continuing achievements in the period.)
Makes me wonder though - with the close ties between certain Disciples and the Catholic Church (or at least Early Christians and Rome), why wasn't this "authority" passed on to them?