If God does exist, then why is hiding from us?

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
So does he decide to do this when he wishes or is it a joint decision? This particular proclamation, is it in response to something? Because the things it advocate I thought were what Christian's in general are meant to believe.

Sorry for the delayed response, I didn't see your post.

We believe in unity. The prophet is absolute, his authority over-arches the entire Church. But, unless it is direct revelation from God, all decisions are put before the Twelve and then sustained by the Twelve. Any decision that affects the organization or doctrines of the church is also put before the general body of the church and is sustained by them as well. Although below the Twelve it is mainly just a matter of commitment to the subject presented, and no veto type authority really exists below the Twelve.

As to the Proclamation I used as an example, these concepts it advocates should be believed by Christians in general, but various aspects of it are not strongly supported among Christians today.

It does advocate gender as being absolute, girls should be girls, boys should be boys, and they should behave as such, an idea that isn't extremely popular at the moment. It is an anti-homosexual behavior document, and various Christian faiths are questioning this. It discourages single parent situations, although it does make the statement, "Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation."

Originally posted by Regret
It does advocate gender as being absolute, girls should be girls, boys should be boys, and they should behave as such, an idea that isn't extremely popular at the moment. It is an anti-homosexual behavior document, and various Christian faiths are questioning this. It discourages single parent situations, although it does make the statement, "Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation."

Yeah...people usually think that having a role defined for you is improper.

Originally posted by lord xyz
There is no god. God's as real as magic, hypnotism and karma.

Originally posted by Alliance
Yeah...people usually think that having a role defined for you is improper.

It's more a statement that girls shouldn't be boys type attitude.

I dont understand how that changes anything.

Your statement seemed more broad in scope.

Are you suggesting that homosexuals take on opposite gender roles?

No, it wasn't in reference to homosexuality at all. It was in reference to behavior. Girls and Boys should attempt to be attractive to the opposite sex, but maintain a modest behavior. This is in reference to girls that behave in such a manner that boys find them unattractive, and vice versa.

sounds sexist.

It doesn't make sense to me.

If it was a simple as that. They would have said: "be modest"

Originally posted by Alliance
sounds sexist.

It doesn't make sense to me.

If it was a simple as that. They would have said: "be modest"

It is sexist, but I do not believe it to be in a negative manner. Women are women, men are men. The LDS Church frowns on androgyny and confusion between the sexes. Sexism can be a simple discrimination based on gender, and discrimination can be the ability or power to see or make fine distinctions; discernment. It doesn't need to be negatively defined.

There is a distinction between men and women. This is a fact with more evidence than evolution ever had. I do not understand why the differences are not celebrated instead of being the object of negative connotation. Sexist views, that are not negative, celebrate the virtues of these distinctions, but it is currently politically incorrect to make the statement as such.

No. Its morally incorrect to have defined gender roles for individuals. Sexism is discrimination and discrimination is itself a negative concept.

There are clear reasidues of anti-homosexuality as well.

Originally posted by Alliance
No. Its morally incorrect to have defined gender roles for individuals. Sexism is discrimination and discrimination is itself a negative concept.

There are clear reasidues of anti-homosexuality as well.

Discrimination is not a negative concept, differential treatment of others is the negative concept to which you are referring. Discrimination is a misnomer.

No. I dont think there's really a trick to this one.

So I should treat a girl much like I would a fllow man? So if a woman slaps me, I should punch her back?

Thats what I do when I sleep with men with women who think they are men women man.

So your bisexual?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
We are His "so-called" children and He loves us right, but loving parents are always around their children spiritually and emotionally but most importantly,..visually.

Because if there was a "god," we would be insignificant to said "god."

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
We are His "so-called" children and He loves us right, but loving parents are always around their children spiritually and emotionally but most importantly,..visually.

The Lord works in mysterious ways......

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
So your bisexual?

No. I just don't think that men and women have defined roles that they should follow because fo their sex.

Women can work wherever and be a woman. A man can be gay and be a man. Gender roles are shit.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The Lord works in mysterious ways......

That's the biggest and cheapest excuse I have ever heard on Christianity's defense....what a cop out

Let me send people to places where they will be tortured for only a DAY, and as I go to prison, my defense will be "I work in mysterious ways" and "I did it out of love"

Yet God sends "good" people to Hell, who are non beleivers, and then all of a sudden it's okay, and it's out of his "love".... 🙄