Originally posted by Validus
If you use the system at it's face value (with actual tons) anyone Class 50 and above should be Class 100 without a doubt. For the record though, Marvel hasn't used "tons" in any of the 2006 handbooks.
Still punching a hole in reality, and doing some of the feats he has done put him high up there. Plus he has the ability to increase his strength as well, due to being an avatar.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Because what you just said makes a lot more sense 🙄 😆
Bah! here's breif descriptions of it
Trans-Spaital Displacement:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Trans-Spatial_Displacement
imho, the whole 100 ton scale thing is ridiculous. they should throw that out the window and look at feats of different characters and actually try to calculate some of the lifting feat weights, and based on those come up with a more accurate system.
seriously, when you have characters listed as below 100 class or at 100 class and they are lifting things that are well over 1000 tons, and at the same time, you have characters that way outclass them in the same weight bracket, there is something wrong with the system.
She-Hulk's strength, like a lot of gamma monsters, stems in part from her subconscious thingy or mental perceptions. Like Samson and his hair, Hulk and his rage, and Abomination and his fear. When She-Hulk initially fought with Champion (IIRC, it's been almost half a year I think) she realized she wasn't anywhere near strong enough. Working out as She-Hulk wasn't working to make her much stronger so using psychology or somezit she (or someone) came up with the ideal of working out as Jennifer Walters. Jen became quite buff and thus when she changed back to She-Hulk her strength became even more magnified.
It's a reasonable upgrade considering how the other gamma's have their own psyche hook to their power.
Originally posted by lft4ded
She-Hulk's strength, like a lot of gamma monsters, stems in part from her subconscious thingy or mental perceptions. Like Samson and his hair, Hulk and his rage, and Abomination and his fear. When She-Hulk initially fought with Champion (IIRC, it's been almost half a year I think) she realized she wasn't anywhere near strong enough. Working out as She-Hulk wasn't working to make her much stronger so using psychology or somezit she (or someone) came up with the ideal of working out as Jennifer Walters. Jen became quite buff and thus when she changed back to She-Hulk her strength became even more magnified.It's a reasonable upgrade considering how the other gamma's have their own psyche hook to their power.
thats the thing with all gamma beings...thats is the ones that can change at will..the more robust they become in thier human form, thier strentgh increases proportionately when they transform...now back to Warpath, he's been plagued with the same things as colossus, he was class 70 when he was a teenager, but now that he's a grown, fully matured man..just like colossus he's class 100 now
Originally posted by ankur29You would put Colossus over Sassy?
ain't colosuss 100 tons?1. Namor-100 tons(+)?
2. Thing-90 tons
3. Doc Samson-60-70 tons
4. Rhino-80 tons(+)?
5. Colossus-100 tons
6. She-Hulk-100 tons
7. Warpath-75 tons....??
8. Strong Guy-50 tons
9. Sasquatch-90 tons
In Colossus' latest bio in the 2006 X-men Encyclopedia is does say now that he reached his physical peak he can now lift weights over 100 tons.
Sasquatch is still 70 tons as far as I know.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossus100tons.jpg
Originally posted by snoopdogg
85 tons is for Box Langkowsky. Sasquatch was 70 tons.
and yet it was said....."I once occupied the Box armor, too! Heather! I know its strengths! Its might's not half that of Sasquatch's, but Box's power lies more than the armor's strength."
Sasquatch's strength feats greatly outdwarf Colossus, he is for sure class 100
Originally posted by King_MungiSasquatch has done nothing out of Colossus' league. Well maybe in your eyes.
and yet it was said....."I once occupied the Box armor, too! Heather! I know its strengths! Its might's not half that of Sasquatch's, but Box's power lies more than the armor's strength."Sasquatch's strength feats greatly outdwarf Colossus, he is for sure class 100
Sasquatch when he was written his best could not beat a teenage Colossus.
Sasquatch has not had a descent lifting feat at all for the last 27 years. And that was when he lifted the corner of the battle ship which was impressive but not the full weight or even close. Sh!t Sasquatch was getting beat on by a depowered Juggernaut. Atleast Colossus stood toe to toe with him at full power.(Colossus still sucks) I remember when he fought Thing and he tried like hell to knock Thing out but he could not.
Anyways I heard Thing is class 90 now. Not bad.
Warpath is around 75 tons.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Sasquatch has done nothing out of Colossus' league. Well maybe in your eyes.Sasquatch when he was written his best could not beat a teenage Colossus.
Liar, when has Colossus caught a 6 story building, when has he dragged a destroyer and lifted it out of the water, when has he easily tossed a 250 ton DC-10 1000 feet while the engines were still on, when has Colossus punched a whole in reality, gone toe to toe with Hulk for 30 minutes, etc.
Ummm..as shown COlossus's punches didn't even phase Sasquatch and as shown Sasquatch was literally toying with him.
