Handbook Strength Rankings

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Yea I know but I meant it as a whole. And right after Juggy punched Sasquatch through a cop car then he was attacked by Earthmover for...like 4 pages or maybe even 5. That gave Sasquatch enough time to heal back to 100%.

As a whole he was recovered when he charged back at Jugz. He didn't appear till 5 pages later, but that doesn't mean much as there isn't a way to tell how long he was gone.

Remember it was just one punch, and then after they did the shot for shot

Why are you guys wasting time debating about something that Chuck Austen wrote anyway? Surely we could debate something written by someone with some talent.

Juggernaut was just getting up after his fight with Earthmover and was still on his knees when Sasquatch punched him. And Sasquatches massive blow actually hurt him more than it did Juggernaut.

Juggernaut looked better in that fight.

I would love to continue this but I only have access to a computer on Sunday.

So until the next time.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Juggernaut was just getting up after his fight with Earthmover and was still on his knees when Sasquatch punched him. And Sasquatches massive blow actually hurt him more than it did Juggernaut.

Juggernaut looked better in that fight.

Sasquatch was on his knees when he hit when after the "big" hit. Once again back to square one. How do you know it hurt Sasquatch more than Jugz? as that really doesn't make sense

Not really did you see his face when he was talking to Fishboy? he was a mangled wreck

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I would love to continue this but I only have access to a computer on Sunday.

So until the next time.

Only on a sunday? oh sorry to hear that

until next time

Originally posted by juggernaut74
And Sasquatches massive blow actually hurt him more than it did Juggernaut.

1. Namor-85 tons - Should be Class 100

2. Thing-85 tons - Should be Class 100

3. Doc Samson-25 tons - Should be Class 90

4. Rhino-80 tons - Right.

5. Colossus-70 tons - Should be Class 100.

6. She-Hulk-75 tons - Should be Class 100.

7. Warpath-75 tons - Should be Class 90.

8. Strong Guy-50 tons - Should be Class 100 (Through Absorbtion)

9. Sasquatch-70 tons - Should be Class 100.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
What blow are you talking about? The big double page splash at the beggining of the fight? I've always seen that as a double hit. It seems pretty clear to me that they both connected with each other. Hence Sasquacth being down aswell. If only Sassy landed a punch, he wouldn't be bleeding from the mouth.

The way Juggernaut was positioned after Sas hit him is hard to hit Sasquatch, and there was only one star "action" hit image. If it was a double hit it makes more sense, as I don't see how he could hurt himself from his own blow

Originally posted by lft4ded
She-Hulk's strength, like a lot of gamma monsters, stems in part from her subconscious thingy or mental perceptions. Like Samson and his hair, Hulk and his rage, and Abomination and his fear. When She-Hulk initially fought with Champion (IIRC, it's been almost half a year I think) she realized she wasn't anywhere near strong enough. Working out as She-Hulk wasn't working to make her much stronger so using psychology or somezit she (or someone) came up with the ideal of working out as Jennifer Walters. Jen became quite buff and thus when she changed back to She-Hulk her strength became even more magnified.

It's a reasonable upgrade considering how the other gamma's have their own psyche hook to their power.

Yep, and Jens weight is 145. At 5'10 and in shape, that means Jens packed on a bit of muscle.

Jen was listed as cl 100? Seems good to me.

What rantings did they give to other guys in that Civil War files?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Uhhhh as stated in the issue, Sasquatch was weakened. Have you actually seen his strength feats? probally not.

No, it's canon

No he didn't, Sasquatch hit him and the ground shoke. Then Sasquatch said hold up, but Jugz hit him and then later Sas came charging back. Compare Jugz's face to Sasquatch's...who was worse off? exactally.

it des not matter if it is cannon , wolverin eregenerating from nitro's blast in cannon

btw standing toe to toe with ulk is not special at all , many people have done it , venom stood toe toe with juggernaut that does not make him uberstrong

sasquatch done justice woudl be able to lift 100 tons under optimal conditions as would the Thing , and i believe that collosuus is stronger than both of them 😛 😛 (ps i wish hulk was classs 100 while in a calm state)

Originally posted by ankur29
they should have the follwing catergorys for strength (press lifting potential)

regular strength..................(lift own body weight..cyclops)
engages in regular excercise..300lbs (hawkeye)
intense excercise......... 300lbs - 400lbs(punisher)
olympic athlete level ....... 400lbs - 500lbs (daredevil , kingpin)
peak human.................... 8000lbs -1600lbs (captain america)
enchnaced human............ 2000lbs-2200lbs(1ton)logan,blade
lowlevel superhuman......... 1.5-2 tons (dr.doom)
superhuman........
class1 2 tons -10tons
class2 11-25 (spiderman,venom ,lukecage)
class3 25-50(rogue /carnage)
class4 50-100(doc samsonson,strong guy, thing)
class5 100-500 (sasquatch,colossus,ironman suits)
class6 500-1,000(abomination)
class7 1,000-50,000(namor,wonderman,silversurfa

uberstrong..........................100,000tons - 100,000,000 tons (million)+

(thor,hercules,thanos,sentry,gladiator,hulk,juggernut,mangog e.t.c)

incalculable ,limitless literally .............Galtactus

🍺 🍺 💃 💃 😮‍💨 😮‍💨

how marvel should rate the strength according to me

Originally posted by ankur29
it des not matter if it is cannon , wolverin eregenerating from nitro's blast in cannon

btw standing toe to toe with ulk is not special at all , many people have done it , venom stood toe toe with juggernaut that does not make him uberstrong

sasquatch done justice woudl be able to lift 100 tons under optimal conditions as would the Thing , and i believe that collosuus is stronger than both of them 😛 😛 (ps i wish hulk was classs 100 while in a calm state)

Which Wolverine's incident is going to be explained in the next issue, and you do relaise Sasquatch can increase his strength to skyfather levels. Probally not.

He stood toe to toe with a completly enraged savage Hulk for 30 minutes, and this was even before the Tanaraq aspect was introduced. Right, you compare Venom's feats to Sasquatchs. Good lord, please do.

You would be wrong, as there has been nothing to indicate Colossus is stronger than Sasquatch.

Marvel needs to dump this class 100 crap 😐

Seriously

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Liar, when has Colossus caught a 6 story building,

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusavalancheMFF3.jpg

Here Colossus holds up a massive callapsing hospital.(Without help)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossusholdinahospital.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi

when has he dragged a destroyer and lifted it out of the water,

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/SecretWars009-09.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/SecretWars009-10.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi

when has he easily tossed a 250 ton DC-10 1000 feet while the engines were still on,

But he did carry the X-jet on his back for two miles underwater to shore while it was sunk in the ocean. The X-jet weighs 85 tons and was completely filled with water.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusliftingX-jet_2.jpg

He also overpowered a massive press that was way over 250 tons that was stuck at FULL POWER. The one WonderMan tried to stop was set at 50,000 tons and looked smaller than this one imo.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossuspress.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossuspress-2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossussmashinthedangerroom.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi

when has Colossus punched a whole in reality,

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossusannual_4.jpg

He also punched his way through endless tons of rock that was suppose to be impregnable as Mikhail desribed the rock.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossussmashin.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi

gone toe to toe with Hulk for 30 minutes, etc.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

Ummm..as shown COlossus's punches didn't even phase Sasquatch and as shown Sasquatch was literally toying with him.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

You would be wrong, as there has been nothing to indicate Colossus is stronger than Sasquatch.

*still thinks Yahman should contact Marvel and show them the great strength system he came up with*

Originally posted by snoopdogg
The handbooks have Sasquatch as a level 5 character. Colossus is a 6 and actually I saw one with him listed as a 7.

As shown with many characters, handbooks are wrong. Also isn't this what the thread is about?

Originally posted by ankur29
how marvel should rate the strength according to me

Plus, why is logan, and Blade so high?
There is no showings to put Logan in the 1 ton range.

Originally posted by snoopdogg

He never tried. Is that the one where Thing was helping him? Colossus has braced ceiling of a undeground base that caved in even with a massive avalanche to make things even worse. Being they were over 100 meters down and add the weight of the avalanche this is most likley over 1000 tons.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusavalancheMFF3.jpg

Never tried doesn't mean he can, on-panel feats are what count. No, Sasquatch caught the 6 story building and needed Thing to stablize it so they could get the people out but it still was falling apart

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_12.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_13.jpg

over 1000 tons? unlikely. He held up the ceiling and the rest of the building didn't collapse around him, plus an ibeams were used to support the weight... yeah definetly not 1000 tons as I have a background in milright and construction. You know how many you would actually need?

Originally posted by snoopdogg

Here Colossus holds up a massive callapsing hospital.(Without help)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossusholdinahospital.jpg

That's nice, he isn't holding the entire hospital up or do we know how many floors he is holding. Sasquatch has done similar feats as well.

Originally posted by snoopdogg

He never tried. But he did catch a huge star ship that was falling out of the sky while he was injured. A ship this size would be pretty heavy then you have to add the momentum of it falling which makes it even hader yet.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/SecretWars009-09.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/SecretWars009-10.jpg

Never tried doesn't mean he can. Also the afterburners were on meaning Colossus would not be holding the entire weight of the ship, and if it was so great his base where he was standing would have collapsed. Sasquatch dragged and lifted a destroy and pushed it back out with apparently no problems

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Hulk_Annual_1979_008_11.jpg

Sasquatch ripping apart Tundra, an elder god who considered Sasquatch a threat

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-30.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AlphaFlight01-31.jpg

Originally posted by snoopdogg

He never tried.

But he did carry the X-jet on his back for two miles underwater to shore while it was sunk in the ocean. The X-jet weighs 85 tons and was completely filled with water.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/ColossusliftingX-jet_2.jpg

Once again Colossus doesn't have the same on panel feats as Sasquatch, speculation doesn't mean fact. That feat is nothing compared to tossing a 250 ton DC-10 1000 feet with the engines will on, and would have gone further but crashed in the hanger....and all with ease.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Sasplane1.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men120b.jpg

Originally posted by snoopdogg

He also overpowered a massive press that was way over 250 tons that was stuck at FULL POWER. The one WonderMan tried to stop was set at 50,000 tons and looked smaller than this one imo.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossuspress.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossuspress-2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossussmashinthedangerroom.jpg

Ummm...no. I have a press similar to that at my work, which is a milright shop that max can press 60 tons. Just because it looks like it, doesn't mean it is.

Originally posted by snoopdogg

He never tried. But he did punch through a barrier that Dr. Strange, Wolverines claws, and Storms lightning could not break.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossusannual_4.jpg

He also punched his way through endless tons of rock that was suppose to be impregnable as Mikhail desribed the rock.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossussmashin.jpg

Right, and Sasquatch can increase his level to take on Dr.Strange level characters on on one. Just by experincing great pain or rage, Tanaraq takes over and amplifies his strength to unreal levels. Just by looking at you, he can attack your mind and soul.

Right that's the same mini that had COlossus choking Sinister and almost killing him. 🙄 Also what's harder to do? punch a hole in a rock or reality?

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AlphaFlight0423.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AF5_03.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AF5_04.jpg
4. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AF5_0405.jpg

The Collector, an Elder of the Universe thought halting one of the boxes an Inter-dimensional traps from the Vegan timeline was impossible. Yet Sasquatch did it with ease

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/MarvelTeam-UpAnnual7-15.jpg

Originally posted by snoopdogg

He never tried. Sasquatch got his @ss handed to him by Jobbernaut and like Juggy74 pointed out was saved by Earthmover. 😱 Colossus is stronger than Jobbernaut.

Colossus took Sasquatch down atleast twice in that fight. And that was towards the end after Cyclops told him to use his head. Actually the last panel of the fight Sasquatch was on his knees while Colossus was beating him like a mangy mutty.

Stop breaching he never tried as he never did, as shown Colossus doesn't have the strength feats as Sasquatch has on panel. Wrong, Jugy74 was proved wrong, I suggest you read our posts.

Once shown on panel, as after the giant storm he was shown on his knees but we don't know what happened as the fighting stopped. Mangy mutty? man your full of it, notice Sasquatch was literally toying with COlossus as a bully would a child. If you actually believe a judo toss can beat a class 100, with high durability and a healing factor you have another thing coming. Here's a quote from Sasquatch after he was judo tossed by another person..."Nice judo toss. But if you think I've fallen and I can't get up--your're wrong "

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg07.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg09.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg10.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg11.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg12.jpg

Your scans proved nothing to show he has the same strength feats as Sasquatch. Your retort is he never tried...well on-panel feats are what we count on this board.