Originally posted by bigbran
You mark Silver Surfer as on the same level, as Woondy, and lower than Hulk?Plus, why is logan, and Blade so high?
There is no showings to put Logan in the 1 ton range.
Originally posted by King_MungiHe said he was getting too heavy too.
Never tried doesn't mean he can, on-panel feats are what count. No, Sasquatch caught the 6 story building and needed Thing to stablize it so they could get the people out but it still was falling apart
Originally posted by King_MungiDude I'm a f*cking engineer man. A steel girder can hold alot of tonnage. A wood girder can hold alot of tonnage. I design roof systems for a living man. 😆 There was 100 meters of dirt and rock on top of him. Then on top of that there was snow and ice and rock from the avalanche.over 1000 tons? unlikely. He held up the ceiling and the rest of the building didn't collapse around him, plus an ibeams were used to support the weight... yeah definetly not 1000 tons as I have a background in milright and construction. You know how many you would actually need?
Originally posted by King_MungiI don't have a scan of the hospital handy but it is alot bigger than the tiny building Sasquatch was struggling to hold.That's nice, he isn't holding the entire hospital up or do we know how many floors he is holding. Sasquatch has done similar feats as well.
Originally posted by King_MungiDude I have a 17ft monarch bassboat. It's pretty damm heavy too. But I pull it in the water all the time to get it postioned right so I can get in on the trailer. And Sasquatch just lifted the corner which is still impressive but nowhere close to full weight.Never tried doesn't mean he can. Also the afterburners were on meaning Colossus would not be holding the entire weight of the ship, and if it was so great his base where he was standing would have collapsed. Sasquatch dragged and lifted a destroy and pushed it back out with apparently no problems
Originally posted by King_MungiYour on crack too then. I have a small press in my shop and it can press 1,200 tons. 😆 And I can move it around on a cart. 1,200 tons!Ummm...no. I have a press similar to that at my work, which is a milright shop that max can press 60 tons. Just because it looks like it, doesn't mean it is.
Originally posted by King_Mungi😘 That's....kinda gay. How does Sasqsuatch loose if he has that power? I think your killing his image for me.Right, and Sasquatch can increase his level to take on Dr.Strange level characters on on one. Just by experincing great pain or rage, Tanaraq takes over and amplifies his strength to unreal levels. Just by looking at you, he can attack your mind and soul.
Originally posted by King_MungiSinister was weakened 😱 And Mikhail said the rock was impregnable and was endless.
Right that's the same mini that had COlossus choking Sinister and almost killing him. 🙄 Also what's harder to do? punch a hole in a rock or reality?
Originally posted by King_MungiDude your on drugs man! Juggs has Sasquatch begging for mercy. Then Juggy knocked him through a bus or something then Juggy was attacked by Earthmove to buy Sasquatch some time. Can't you see that?Stop breaching he never tried as he never did, as shown Colossus doesn't not have the strength feats as Sasquatch has on panel. Wrong, Jugy74 was proved wrong, I suggest you read our posts.
Originally posted by King_MungiWell it's like you said. We go by what we see on panel. And Sasquatch was on his knees? How do you think he got there? Did he slip over a banana peel? 😆
Once shown on panel, as after the giant storm he was shown on his knees but we don't know what happened as the fighting stopped.
Originally posted by King_MungiSame with yours. Your the one who said Saquatch "dwarfs" Colossus. 😱Your scans proved nothing to show he has the same strength feats as Sasquatch. Your retort is he never tried...well on-panel feats are what we count on this board.
Actually the press I have in my shop can press 1500 tons. Here is how small it is. It's the column press.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
He said he was getting too heavy too.Dude I'm a f*cking engineer man. A steel girder can hold alot of tonnage. A wood girder can hold alot of tonnage. I design roof systems for a living man. 😆 There was 100 meters of dirt and rock on top of him. Then on top of that there was snow and ice and rock from the avalanche.
I don't have a scan of the hospital handy but it is alot bigger than the tiny building Sasquatch was struggling to hold.
Dude I have a 17ft monarch bassboat. It's pretty damm heavy too. But I pull it in the water all the time to get it postioned right so I can get in on the trailer. And Sasquatch just lifted the corner which is still impressive but nowhere close to full weight.
Your on crack too then. I have a small press in my shop and it can press 1,200 tons. 😆 And I can move it around on a cart. 1,200 tons!
😘 That's....kinda gay. How does Sasqsuatch loose if he has that power? I think your killing his image for me.
Sinister was weakened 😱 And Mikhail said the rock was impregnable and was endless.Dude your on drugs man! Juggs has Sasquatch begging for mercy. Then Juggy knocked him through a bus or something then Juggy was attacked by Earthmove to buy Sasquatch some time. Can't you see that?
Well it's like you said. We go by what we see on panel. And Sasquatch was on his knees? How do you think he got there? Did he slip over a banana peel? 😆Same with yours. Your the one who said Saquatch "dwarfs" Colossus. 😱
No he said the strain from catching it was to much
1000 tons, no they can't. You need a infacture to stabilze that weight, you should know that. 6x6 posts wood posts can hold a few tons, but 1000 tons is a huge huge huge leap. If that were the case then the entire celing around Colossus would have collapsed. Plus there isn't any weight indication in that scan, pure speculation
right, I would like to see this as Colossus isn't stopping it from toppling over just from caving it in. A feat even Cage has done by bracing the weight. Catching it as it teters over is far more impressive, as Sasquatch has stopped Department H floors from toppling over as well.
You cannot compare the two, he dragged a fully equiped destroyer to the shore and pushed it out once again. You can't even compare them my 18.5 ft Nitro baseboat is just over 1 ton and we need the trailer whinch to bring it in.
Ummm...no we have a portable press as well. This is our older model
http://www.fpmiller.com/Inventory/Pages/3403.aspx
this is closer to what we have it. Plus i tried to find the exact serial number and the presses which are bigger than below ranged from 100-175 tons. We don't know how much pressure the press actually generates.
http://www.fpmiller.com/Inventory/Pages/3217.aspx
Banishment or defeat them before the time limit, as noted the Great Beasts need to be defeated in 20 minutes upon entering our reality or they will never be defeated as noted by Snowbird. When Tanaraq took over Sasquatch in AF #23 he merely looked at Talisman and attacked her hidden fires attacking her mind and soul at once.
Still a weakened Sinister getting choked? last time I checked he doesn't even breath. Collector thought catching a Boxer was an impossib;e feat as well. Once again reality punching surpasses punching through rocks.
Ummm...no, read the actual comic he wasn't begging for anything. Jugz hit him on his knees when his guard was down and then after the stone golem Sasquatch charged at him and they clashed shot for shot. Ok mister, who looked worse in the end? whose face was more mangled? Exactally.
No on panel actually showing the event, so basically it's speculation once again no actual facts. Also that storm threatened to endanger all of Canada, and when it got severe the fighting stopped and that was shown actually on panel. Judo toss is not going to defeat a person like Sasquatch
right, I showed scans that surpassed Colossus and even punched a hole in reality. Yet your rebuttal..Colossus never tried. Once again Sasquatch the angry he gets and the more pain he experiences the more his strength grows due to Tanaraq's influence feeding his avatar.
Originally posted by King_MungiIt wa still too heavy for him. 🙂
No he said the strain from catching it was to much
Originally posted by King_MungiFirst off steel>>>>>>>>>>>>wood. So a steel girder than Support alot of weight. A 6x6 post(Wooden) can support more than a few tons if positioned correctly. And for the record Mungi. Please don't apply real life physics into comics. It's not good for business.
1000 tons, no they can't. You need a infacture to stabilze that weight, you should know that. 6x6 posts wood posts can hold a few tons, but 1000 tons is a huge huge huge leap. If that were the case then the entire celing around Colossus would have collapsed. Plus there isn't any weight indication in that scan, pure speculation
Oh and here is a scan to show how far down they were. It was over 100 meters. Then there was the avalanche.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7131/marvelfanfare0304jp9.jpg
Originally posted by King_MungiI need a wench too but I can pull the boat around in the water. Alot easier than lifting it.You cannot compare the two, he dragged a fully equiped destroyer to the shore and pushed it out once again. You can't even compare them my 18.5 ft Nitro baseboat is just over 1 ton and we need the trailer whinch to bring it in.
Originally posted by King_MungiDude that press is nowhere near the size the one Colossus crushed. My Column press can go up to 1500 tons. And it's alot smaller than the one in the Danger Room.this is closer to what we have it. Plus i tried to find the exact serial number and the presses which are bigger than below ranged from 100-175 tons. We don't know how much pressure the press actually generates.
Originally posted by King_MungiDr. Strange thought Nobody could break the Crimson bands also. Maybe nobody has tried. 😉 Anyways Colossus broke the barrier than Dr. Strange could not.Still a weakened Sinister getting choked? last time I checked he doesn't even breath. Collector thought catching a Boxer was an impossib;e feat as well. Once again reality punching surpasses punching through rocks.
Originally posted by King_MungiDude your on crack and I mean that in a nice way. Sasquatch was begging for Juggy to let up after they hit each other. And Juggernaut hit Sasquatch cause Sasquatch was to dazed and bloodied to get up first. Then Vindicator realized Walkter was in trouble and told Earthmover to attack while Sasquatch got his nuts back.
Ummm...no, read the actual comic he wasn't begging for anything. Jugz hit him on his knees when his guard was down and then after the stone golem Sasquatch charged at him and they clashed shot for shot. Ok mister, who looked worse in the end? whose face was more mangled? Exactally.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
It wa still too heavy for him. 🙂First off steel>>>>>>>>>>>>wood. So a steel girder than Support alot of weight. A 6x6 post(Wooden) can support more than a few tons if positioned correctly. And for the record Mungi. Please don't apply real life physics into comics. It's not good for business.
Oh and here is a scan to show how far down they were. It was over 100 meters. Then there was the avalanche.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7131/marvelfanfare0304jp9.jpg
I need a wench too but I can pull the boat around in the water. Alot easier than lifting it.
Dude that press is nowhere near the size the one Colossus crushed. My Column press can go up to 1500 tons. And it's alot smaller than the one in the Danger Room.
Dr. Strange thought Nobody could break the Crimson bands also. Maybe nobody has tried. 😉 Anyways Colossus broke the barrier than Dr. Strange could not.
Dude your on crack and I mean that in a nice way. Sasquatch was begging for Juggy to let up after they hit each other. And Juggernaut hit Sasquatch cause Sasquatch was to dazed and bloodied to get up first. Then Vindicator realized Walkter was in trouble and told Earthmover to attack while Sasquatch got his nuts back.
No it wasn't, he still did it. Plus once again I will make the note that he has the ability to increase his strength to even levels where Exiles Tanaraq easily beat Zarathos and Kulan Gath. Plus this is a feat, Colossus has never done
Thanks, but you should know a girder just placed in a random location is not going to hold 1000 tons. Also once again we have no idea how much weight there actually was. It's all based on speculation, no real facts.
Right, but do we know how much actually weight there is? or how much the ceiling did support? no. The entire ceiling around him didn't collapse so how much weight can there really be?
Once again pulling a 18.5 ft boat isn't even close to pulling a fully equiped destroyed which I believe the average displacement is around 5000 tonnes.
Did you see the links I posted? even giant ones only pressed just 75 tons, we have no idea how much the press actually did. Those were to show that even larger ones than your press don't have the "power" yours did, but do we know how much the press actually did? no.
Galactus couldn't even break the bonds, the power of the bonds greatly depand on his confidence as noted. So Colossus > Galactus then?
He said and I quote "wait, man. hold up a second", how is that begging? Wow were are you getting this? Juggernaut was bloddy as well and how was Sasquatch dazed? no he hit Sasquatch when he was on his knees then she told Earthmover to step in, and then shortly later Sasquatch came back good as new full of rage and they went shot for shot...and once again who looked far far far far worse in the end? that's right Juggernaut. Sasquatch has gone against stronger people than Juggernaut and never "begged". I could also comment the several errors the writer did with the rest of Alpha Flight, but I digress.
Originally posted by King_MungiJibberish.
No it wasn't, he still did it. Plus once again I will make the note that he has the ability to increase his strength to even levels where Exiles Tanaraq easily beat Zarathos and Kulan Gath. Plus this is a feat, Colossus has never done
Originally posted by King_MungiIt is said to weigh "Tons" and they use more than one I-beam too. How many? Who knows but it was more than one and placed right they would be efficient.
Thanks, but you should know a girder just placed in a random location is not going to hold 1000 tons. Also once again we have no idea how much weight there actually was. It's all based on speculation, no real facts.
Originally posted by King_MungiAnytime your in a underground base and it caves in due to a earthquake it's bad news.Right, but do we know how much actually weight there is? or how much the ceiling did support? no. The entire ceiling around him didn't collapse so how much weight can there really be?
Originally posted by King_MungiYour right. But I'm not as strong as Sasquatch either now am I. 😱
Once again pulling a 18.5 ft boat isn't even close to pulling a fully equiped destroyed which I believe the average displacement is around 5000 tonnes.
Originally posted by King_MungiI don't think you understand. The stroke has alot to do with the power a press hass. The one with Colossus had alot of stroke.
Did you see the links I posted? even giant ones only pressed just 75 tons, we have no idea how much the press actually did. Those were to show that even larger ones than your press don't have the "power" yours did, but do we know how much the press actually did? no.
Originally posted by King_MungiActually Namor>Galactus. But yea you get the point I can see.
Galactus couldn't even break the bonds, the power of the bonds greatly depand on his confidence as noted. So Colossus > Galactus then?
Originally posted by King_MungiHow is it not?
He said and I quote "wait, man. hold up a second", how is that begging?
Originally posted by King_MungiWhy was Sasquatch on his knees? Yea that's right he was obviously reeling from the blow. He couldn't keep up with Jobbernaut and that was obvious. And this is the same Jobbernaut who was struggling to lift a weight that was not even at Colossus' level yet.
Wow were are you getting this? Juggernaut was bloddy as well and how was Sasquatch dazed? no he hit Sasquatch when he was on his knees then she told Earthmover to step in
Originally posted by Lucid LuiI assume there is a difference between fighting and jogging. If you fighting somebody and they tells you "Good God wait man, hold up a second" I would assume he is having trouble keeping up.I'f i'm jogging with someone and i tell them to hold up a second, am i begging?
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After the last scan Eearthmove steps in and you don't see Sasquatch for five pages. Vindicators words "Earthmover get Juggernaut now!"
Originally posted by snoopdoggHe's obviously having trouble, but he's not begging. He tells Juggernaut to hold up. When you beg, you don't tell people what to do.
I assume there is a difference between fighting and jogging. If you fighting somebody and they tells you "Good God wait man, hold up a second" I would assume he is having trouble keeping up.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Jibberish.It is said to weigh "Tons" and they use more than one I-beam too. How many? Who knows but it was more than one and placed right they would be efficient.
Anytime your in a underground base and it caves in due to a earthquake it's bad news.
Your right. But I'm not as strong as Sasquatch either now am I. 😱
I don't think you understand. The stroke has alot to do with the power a press hass. The one with Colossus had alot of stroke.
Actually Namor>Galactus. But yea you get the point I can see.
How is it not?Why was Sasquatch on his knees? Yea that's right he was obviously reeling from the blow. He couldn't keep up with Jobbernaut and that was obvious. And this is the same Jobbernaut who was struggling to lift a weight that was not even at Colossus' level yet.
No, that's actually the truth.
Tons, yes I'm sure it was more than 1 ton but how much? we have no idea as I said it's pure speculation. Do you get what I'm saying? It's a feat, but how high...we don't know.
Oh for sure, but once again we have no idea how much weight there was
Maybe if you worked out more and stopped watching the television
No I understand, but each press has a different stroke and or ton power.We don't know what that press was capable of as even giant presses range greatly in ability.
Why? it was stated that it relys on confidence, a full confident Strange showed his bands can hold Galactus.
As Lucid mentioned, begging is completly different
Ok, I never said he wasn't reeling as both were reeling and both were bleeding. When Sasquatch told Jugz to hold up a second, Jugz continued the attack. Ok, and Sasquatch has punched a hole in reality but was he at that level of strength? doubtful? was he fully empowered by Tanaraq? no.
