Wolverine/Sabretooth run the Gauntlet Pt. 2

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Originally posted by Grimm22
Upgrades?!? 🀨

Wolverine never got upgrades.

Writers just started ruining the character by making him invincible 😐


again your ignorence and laim excuses. Wolverine got his adamatium skeleton torn out and his healing factor was upgrade dramaticly. Then the failed attempt to put the adamatium back in by cable son tylor raise his healing prowess even higher. Not to mention he a mutant and keeps getting more powerfull over the years such as every other mutant for the most part. you would not know this becuase you do not read x-men or wolverine.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
are you blind? i wrote to you that in ultimate x-men 72 colossus is knocked out and he is laying on theground in his human form with a broken arm ..... do i need to write it in jibrish?

yes i call you a fanboy because you wont admit facts that already were showed that colossus gets back to his human form when he is knocked out ..... people here called me a fanboy in my first day here... they knew everything about me in the first day so why the hell shouldnt i know everything about you after a week

wolverine was trying to cut colossus not to stab him with full force... unless they show wolverine trying to stab him it all doesnt count , he tryed to cut him in his what? chest? what about his eyes? even lets say that his eyes are from metal they have a thin layer of metal wolverine should just penetrate those... or even colossus ears... wolverine should penetrate his brain thrue his ears.... and i will say it again i think wolverine can stab colossus with full rage and strength just like he did to thing... and you cant say anything about that because you cant prove that he cant stab colossus

God you're dumb.

"Ultimate X-men #25. Colossus is knocked out, but remains in his metallic form."

I know of the instance you're referring to. In fact, I have it right here in my hands. Ultimate X-men #72. Yes, I see it. I also know that he has shown previous precedent that contradicts this.

Did you understand that last sentence?

Arg. Your lack of intelligence hurts. Wolverine's claw would have to bend all sorts of ways in order to go through Colossus's ear to his brain. Which I also assume to be steel. Not that Wolvie will make it through Colossus's ear anyway.

And honestly? I don't care what you think. You're wrong. If you were right, I'd care. 616 Wolverine has never been able to stab 616 Colossus. So far, Ultimate Wolverine has never been able to stab Ultimate Colossus. What else do you want? Are you referring to an Image Comics Wolverine? Or perhaps Darkhorse? πŸ˜• Cuz I'm afraid you're in the wrong thread then.

And now, I'm calling you a fanboy. Because, even though he's NEVER been able to do it, you, for some reason that is beyond me (I blame stupidity), believe that Wolverine can indeed cut Colossus.

Even. Though. He. Can't.

Bigger question. How the HELL is Wolverine, or Sabretooth for that matter, gonna knock Ult. Colossus out? 🀨

Even BIGGER question. Why the hell am I still arguing this? The duo doesn't get past #3.

Originally posted by capt it up
again your ignorence and laim excuses. Wolverine got his adamatium skeleton torn out and his healing factor was upgrade dramaticly. Then the failed attempt to put the adamatium back in by cable son tylor raise his healing prowess even higher. Not to mention he a mutant and keeps getting more powerfull over the years such as every other mutant for the most part. you would not know this becuase you do not read x-men or wolverine.

No, Wolverine's healing factor went up because he didn't have to keep healing to prevent Adamantium poisoning 😐

And no mutants do not get more powerful over time goes on. Some of them have second mutations, but Wolverine hasn't had a second mutation and even if he did it wouldn't upgrade his healing factor.

Now that he has adamantium again, his healing factor should be around the same level as before.

Oh and its not MY ignorance and "laim" excuses, its yours. As you continuously try to say I don't read Wolverine books, even though I do.

WTF?!? I do read X-men, I don't know what your smoking, but I suggest you stop

Originally posted by Grimm22
No, Wolverine's healing factor went up because he didn't have to keep healing to prevent Adamantium poisoning 😐

True, but not true. He started to evolve and his healing went through dramatic changes and if you had read the issue you would know this. Wolverines healing was up grade dramatically and when he finally got his adamatium bonded back his healing stated at the level it had evolved too, but of course you would not know this ebcuase you enevr read onslaughts entire run.

Originally posted by Grimm22
And no mutants do not get more powerful over time goes on. Some of them have second mutations, but Wolverine hasn't had a second mutation and even if he did it wouldn't upgrade his healing factor.

Actually your completely incorrect. As the years goes on and mutants use there powers more and more they get stronger. This is true for almost any mutant and not just second mutantions. Cyclopes power got stronger, beast, storm ,jublee, iceman pre second evolution, sabertooth, bishop , kurt the list goes on and on. So I suggest you read x-men from the beginning before you speak.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Now that he has adamantium again, his healing factor should be around the same level as before.

Not at all. His healing factor had evolved from when he had gotten it ripped out and all through onslaught which you most definitely never read or you would know this. So when they put it back in he would have had a far greater healing factor any ways, not to mention apoc bonding process was designed not to affect wolverine healing factor nearly as much if I am not mistaken.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Oh and its not MY ignorance and "laim" excuses, its yours.

Trust me it you. You repeatedly say every thing wolverine does is BS even though he does it over and over and over and over.

Originally posted by Grimm22
As you continuously try to say I don't read Wolverine books, even though I do.

You don’t. You show that you don’t all the time with your ignorant remarks.

Originally posted by Grimm22
WTF?!? I do read X-men, I don't know what your smoking, but I suggest you stop

Try showing it once in a while.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
God you're dumb.

"Ultimate X-men #25. Colossus is knocked out, but remains in his metallic form."

I know of the instance you're referring to. In fact, I have it right here in my hands. Ultimate X-men #72. Yes, I see it. I also know that he has shown previous precedent that contradicts this.

Did you understand that last sentence?

Arg. Your lack of intelligence hurts. Wolverine's claw would have to bend all sorts of ways in order to go through Colossus's ear to his brain. Which I also assume to be steel. Not that Wolvie will make it through Colossus's ear anyway.

And honestly? I don't care what you think. You're wrong. If you were right, I'd care. 616 Wolverine has never been able to stab 616 Colossus. So far, Ultimate Wolverine has never been able to stab Ultimate Colossus. What else do you want? Are you referring to an Image Comics Wolverine? Or perhaps Darkhorse? πŸ˜• Cuz I'm afraid you're in the wrong thread then.

And now, I'm calling you a fanboy. Because, even though he's NEVER been able to do it, you, for some reason that is beyond me (I blame stupidity), believe that Wolverine can indeed cut Colossus.

Even. Though. He. Can't.

Bigger question. How the HELL is Wolverine, or Sabretooth for that matter, gonna knock Ult. Colossus out? 🀨

Even BIGGER question. Why the hell am I still arguing this? The duo doesn't get past #3.

Lol i can see that i am getting to you too much so you start with the unsults.... you know you can just admit your wrong instead of having nerve attack from me πŸ™„

so you trust ultimate x-men 25 more then 72? why is that? because in 25 you can see what your faboy eyes want to see? in 72 colossus was knocked out with bigger force so thats why he did return to his human form and no matter what a stupid fanboy say or want to belive its a fact deal with it fany

your a true idiot let me shake your hand and donate something for you maybe i will buy for you a book about human body so you would know that in order to penetrate human brain thrue his ear you can just penetrate in straight line, which means that if wolverine penetrate with his claw thrue colossus ear he pops his brain.... why shouldnt wolverine do it? theres a thin peice of meta there.... you say his brain is made out of metal? how do you know? was it stated? no... its just a speculation from a fanboy that will say anything to keep colossus durable, wolverine penetrate thrue colossus ear to his brain and kills him , wolverine couldnt cut colossus but he was never showen to try and stab him, theres a difference, thats how he took out thing with a stab, theres a difference between a cut and a stab when you stab it goes all the presure of the sharp claws in you , i can see that what i say is too much for you little twit ....wolverine tried to cut colossus in the chest where the metal of colossus is thick, but what about his eyes hiw ears his neck his throat, they all have less mass of metal , anyway those were just exemples but overall i say wolverine can stab colossus and no idiot fanboy can prove that i am wront because wolverine never tried to stab colossus and wolverine was showed to cut almost thrue anything, when deathstrike nedden wolverine to cut a whole thrue titanium alien space ship she admited that only his claws can cut thrue eny element, and wolverine was showed to cut meny metals and elements that are hery hard, so i say that wolverine will penetrate colossus with a stab with rage and his full power

but an idiot like you just going to say again and again that wolverine couldnt scratch colossus because its to much for someone like you to understand that theres much much more presure in a stab then in a cut .. read some book not just comic book maybe it will add some information for you πŸ™‚

This is the ear canal:

The brain lies in the cranial cavity above the ear canal. Even if Wolverine's claws could enter the inner ear canal - which they couldn't since on average the passage is somewhere around 1cm in diameter - they would have to break through the temporal bone - one of if not the hardest bone(s) in the body. Additionally they'd have to curve upwards instead of down.

In both 616 and Ultimate Wolverine has tried and cannot pierce Colossus' armoured form.

still if you penetrate someones head thrue his ear he is dead because there are too much systems in there , wolverine was showen to try and scratch colossus but never was showen to actually try to stab him so you cant say athing, but i got on my side everything wolverine has done and the fact that he can penetrate thrue elements as hard if not harder then colossus

He can't penetrate the head. The ear canal is too small, the wrong shape, and composed of the same substance as the rest of Colossus, and therefore can't be pierced.

The onus is on you to provide proof of positive, when the negative has already been exhibited.

Show Wolverine piercing Colossus; otherwise as shown on panel he cannot.

Put up. Or shut up.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
still if you penetrate someones head thrue his ear he is dead because there are too much systems in there , wolverine was showen to try and scratch colossus but never was showen to actually try to stab him so you cant say athing, but i got on my side everything wolverine has done and the fact that he can penetrate thrue elements as hard if not harder then colossus

Thats IF he could penetrate Colossus's ear, which he can't cause he's failed to do so in both Ult and 616 universe. If your arguement is "Yes, he can" even though he's been shown to not be able to you need to provide something to back it up. Burden of proof rests on you

show me a prove where wolverine is trying to stab colossus, not to cut or scratch but stab the claws in him just like he did to the thing, show me where he tried to stab colossus and couldnt and i will admit that i am wrong

Originally posted by wolvertooth
wolverine and sabretooth are two of the most brutal characters in marvel , they tear and brute there enemies in every way they can... do you really think they are not going to try that on colossus? they are faster then him, and who ever say they have to cut him to take him down? even if they cant cut him they are still tough , sabretooth got now 15 ton super strength , wolverine is low super human strength he can lift till 2 tons , each of them can lift colossus and throw him somewhere, or hell even like wolverine took down the hulk he just cut a freakin bridge on the hulk , those are two most brutal fighters of marvel they will come up with something to take him down , they are very smart in a fight , both got healing factor, both are strong enough to lift colossus, and i think that if wolverine and sabretooth together will try to cut colossus after some cuts i am sure they can damage him , but even if we leave the cutting part they can still take him down together, if colossus would fight against each of them 1v1 i would give it to colossus, but those two deadly fighters? they are too smart in a fight sorry its not all about strength, and who ever said that 550 ninjas can take them is a special boy that needs to get a cure right away.... because theres no way those two lose to 550 ninjas, wolverine alone took down more then 100 in enemy of state, sabretooth in hunting alone with one blow took down 20 ninjas and that was early sabretooth without the powerup, and even if the ninjas gona cut them with there swords..... wolverine and sabretooth got healing freakin factor that heals them from bombs, burning down, shots from machin guns like it all was nothing, and you want to tell me that there healing factor is not going to heal them from a cuts?? grimm 22 .... well writen ninjas? they always were punching bags when the hell did you ever saw hand ninjas do something other then get there ass kicked by the hero, NEVER.

First of all, anything short of a nuclear explosion isn't going to do anything to ult. colossus. They can sit there and hack all they want while colossus just stands there and smiles. They can pick him and throw him around like a rag doll, beating his body against any material they can find, all they want and still no damage. I feel you are desperate in trying to find ways your precious wolverine can win. At least admit that they stop at Ult. Colossus.

if you would read my all posts you would know that right now i am talking about him penetrating colossus, i just mentioned that if they could throw him into a trap it could help but if its an open area and they can just fight then it wont help to them, but the penetration part is posible unless your going to show me avidents that wolverine cant penetrate colossus and i repeat penetrate not try to cut him or scratch but penetrate.... then i will say wolverine stabs him end of story and you cant prove that i am wrong

Originally posted by wolvertooth
show me a prove where wolverine is trying to stab colossus, not to cut or scratch but stab the claws in him just like he did to the thing, show me where he tried to stab colossus and couldnt and i will admit that i am wrong

I've seen scans on this forum were wolverine couldn't cut colossus.
I used to be like you supporting wolverine against colossus until I saw the scan.

But that doesn't matter. One never has to prove a negative. The negative is always true unless the positive can be proven. This is a law of logic.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
if you would read my all posts you would know that right now i am talking about him penetrating colossus, i just mentioned that if they could throw him into a trap it could help but if its an open area and they can just fight then it wont help to them, but the penetration part is posible unless your going to show me avidents that wolverine cant penetrate colossus and i repeat penetrate not try to cut him or scratch but penetrate.... then i will say wolverine stabs him end of story and you cant prove that i am wrong
The only thing your posts exhibit and prove is that in this day and age illiteracy still exists.

Filibuster all you want it doesn't change three simple facts.

1) Unless proof of positive is provided, Wolverine in both 616 and Ultimate cannot pierce Colossus.
2) Colossus beats Wolverine.
3) You're a fanboy.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
if you would read my all posts you would know that right now i am talking about him penetrating colossus, i just mentioned that if they could throw him into a trap it could help but if its an open area and they can just fight then it wont help to them, but the penetration part is posible unless your going to show me avidents that wolverine cant penetrate colossus and i repeat penetrate not try to cut him or scratch but penetrate.... then i will say wolverine stabs him end of story and you cant prove that i am wrong

Your funny yet stubborn.
Okay! If there is a trap around then it is possible for them to win.
Are you satisfied?
If colossus can't be scratch by wolverine then what will possess you to think he can be stabbed. Think about a minute before you respond.

yea, those are some good points, his eyes not exploding underwater or melting cuz of the nuclear explosion, so id assume they couldnt pierce them that easy. not to mention, Colossus has been said to have invulnerability, so yea. and also, if all else fails, Colossus can just close his eyes, and grab Wolverine off him and break him. πŸ™‚

Originally posted by h1a8
I've seen scans on this forum were wolverine couldn't cut colossus.
I used to be like you supporting wolverine against colossus until I saw the scan.

But that doesn't matter. One never has to prove a negative. The negative is always true unless the positive can be proven. This is a law of logic.

thats right he cant cut or scratch, but they never showed him trying to penetrate colossus like he did to the thing ..... when you try to cut somone you can slightly harm him because the blade goes horizontal, but if he will try to stab him with the edge of the claws right into colossus then it is very possible for him to do it because he could cut very durable elements.... i cant show a prove because it has never been done, but so does everybody here cant show me a prove that wolverine cant penetrate colossus , join the wolverine side once again... and we will win this battle, we will bring end to wolverine hatters..... no i just kiding but anyway you know that what i wrote is right

Originally posted by braz
yea, those are some good points, his eyes not exploding underwater or melting cuz of the nuclear explosion, so id assume they couldnt pierce them that easy. not to mention, Colossus has been said to have invulnerability, so yea. and also, if all else fails, Colossus can just close his eyes, and grab Wolverine off him and break him. πŸ™‚

he can just close his eyes? and wolverine will still penetrate them you know why? because even is there is a metal protecting his eyes its a very thin layer of metal its not like colossus body... and you said he will break wolverine?? alright does 95% of this board knows who the hell is wolverine?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The only thing your posts exhibit and prove is that in this day and age illiteracy still exists.

Filibuster all you want it doesn't change three simple facts.

1) Unless proof of positive is provided, Wolverine in both 616 and Ultimate cannot pierce Colossus.
2) Colossus beats Wolverine.
3) You're a fanboy.

unless you understand that i am not your freakin friend and i dont like you jokes i wont even answer to you

Ha, you? Ha, friend? That made me chuckle. Not answer me? So?

If you're not going to respond to anybody who perceives you as a relatively rabid fanboy, then pretty soon you're going to have nobody to respond to.