Superboy Prime (/w/ Power Armor) v.s. These Heralds

Notice ripe open a whole in fabric of realities..

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Which clearly shoots him right up to Skyfather level.

Again with this baggage from some other thread.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
How many times have you brought up the retcon punch now while continually saying: I'm not bringing up the retcon punch.

Depends, how many times have your tried rephrasing the same crap in a new package like it isn't obvious?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes, lots and lots of jobbing GLs that thought they were all Jubilee.Yes, planet moving strength was clearly shown in his inability to elude Earth's heroes to "destroy the universe".

So you nitpick for low moments and try to make the heralds infallible. Amazing!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Asked a question. Still no answer.

I must have gotten lost between all your attempts to make a complicated branch of worthless questions over something so simple. Let's not forget how many times you've dropped certain branches of "debate" due to them having nothing to do with the real battle here.

Let's try what you've apparently missed about 10 times. The heralds win due to SBP not being a strategist. Physically he is more than powerful enough to one shot any of them.

LOL, Morg defeated 6 herads on his own at the same time as if they were nothing. The only one capable of stoping him was Galactus himself. He would slaughter SBP.

And yes heralds can speedblitz as well.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
LOL, Morg defeated 6 herads on his own at the same time as if they were nothing. The only one capable of stoping him was Galactus himself. He would slaughter SBP.

And yes heralds can speedblitz as well.

Surfer and Nova were each able to fast enough to travel through time. So heralds can travel faster then the speed of light.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Surfer and Nova were each able to fast enough to travel through time. So heralds can travel faster then the speed of light.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Again with this baggage from some other thread.

Depends, how many times have your tried rephrasing the same crap in a new package like it isn't obvious?

So you nitpick for low moments and try to make the heralds infallible. Amazing!

I must have gotten lost between all your attempts to make a complicated branch of worthless questions over something so simple. Let's not forget how many times you've dropped certain branches of "debate" due to them having nothing to do with the real battle here.

Let's try what you've apparently missed about 10 times. The heralds win due to SBP not being a strategist. Physically he is more than powerful enough to one shot any of them.

I think SBP could take the majority, even though he is not a great tactician, he is also not a rock, he can think and strategize. As already said he could one shot any of them and when has any herald in combat shown the speed that Flash or SBP has?

I say SBP for the majority.

He takes everyone but Surfer and Morg.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Again with this baggage from some other thread. Depends, how many times have your tried rephrasing the same crap in a new package like it isn't obvious?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So you nitpick for low moments and try to make the heralds infallible. Amazing!

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I must have gotten lost between all your attempts to make a complicated branch of worthless questions over something so simple. Let's not forget how many times you've dropped certain branches of "debate" due to them having nothing to do with the real battle here.

Let's try what you've apparently missed about 10 times. The heralds win due to SBP not being a strategist. Physically he is more than powerful enough to one shot any of them.

Originally posted by Rols
yeah but did you see how he holds up against SBP by himself, gaving him a bloody lip by just physical force and Connor blitz SBP, where is that 1 shot herald leveling punch your talkin a bout...

MM wasnt punch out to a diff. dimention by SBP, he was transpported to his own Earth... and MM wasnt owned at all by SBP in fact he couldnt even hit him because he was intangible but before he started to retalliate they got transported because of Luthors playing around mixing realities...

When did Flashes beat him in the speed force, they didnt even fight in the speed force they keep him in prison on red sun but he found a way out and made that antimonitor armor design after the tower..
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=8b81re2.jpg&.src=ph

Wrong, PC Supes was severely weakeend from the collision course with the Kryptonite asteroid after they went through it, thats why MM stop Power Girl to join both Supes.. They were hoping that the kryptonite would work against SBP conjunction w/ red sun radiation it did not but weakend PC Supes...
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=d958re2.jpg&.src=ph

Again they werent fighting in there, quite jumping to conclusions.. All well be revealed in the upcomin new Flash series.. Until then stop w/ your speculation...

Silver Surfers has done this about at least more than 3 times ( im sure his done this more than 3 times) so far not w/ punching but 2 with PC and 3r is w/ his speed, so how fast do you have to be going to rip a whole in the fabric of reality? Not to mention SS also manage to open up a whole to go through Wildstorm Universe..
Ive got to give this to the heralds 8/10.. Thats being very generous, just dont want to sound like a fanboy..

Bump man.. There been a few misleading info..

IMO all this crap about trying to distinguish SBP from the other PC Supermen is a really dumb thing, and I mean no offense with this. Anyway you look at it he was created before the Crisis started and as soon as it ended we never heard from SBP until the new Crisis. Amazing isn't it? Besides E2 Superman is considered a PC Superman. His powers were on par with E1 Superman's by the time they met. Note how E2 Supes is from an alternate reality and so was SBP. It matters not if Earth Prime was supposed to be our earth. Now you can question all you want about SBP's power level when compared to the other kryptonians but it's a matter of fact that SBP is a PC kryptonian.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
IMO all this crap about trying to distinguish SBP from the other PC Supermen is a really dumb thing, and I mean no offense with this. Anyway you look at it he was created before the Crisis started and as soon as it ended we never heard from SBP until the new Crisis. Amazing isn't it? Besides E2 Superman is considered a PC Superman. His powers were on par with E1 Superman's by the time they met. Note how E2 Supes is from an alternate reality and so was SBP. It matters not if Earth Prime was supposed to be our earth. Now you can question all you want about SBP's power level when compared to the other kryptonians but it's a matter of fact that SBP is a PC kryptonian.

Exactly.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
IMO all this crap about trying to distinguish SBP from the other PC Supermen is a really dumb thing, and I mean no offense with this. Anyway you look at it he was created before the Crisis started and as soon as it ended we never heard from SBP until the new Crisis. Amazing isn't it? Besides E2 Superman is considered a PC Superman. His powers were on par with E1 Superman's by the time they met. Note how E2 Supes is from an alternate reality and so was SBP. It matters not if Earth Prime was supposed to be our earth. Now you can question all you want about SBP's power level when compared to the other kryptonians but it's a matter of fact that SBP is a PC kryptonian.

Originally posted by Rols
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=be7fscd.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=d958re2.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=9d81scd.jpg&.src=ph
Let me try to make sense of this based on the scan above.. E2 Superman is a PC superman of diff. reality whose on par w/ powers and weakness of E1 Superman that is why they were affected by the kryptonight and redsun on above scan but SBP is also a PC
kryptonian who is only affected by Kryptonite on his reality but
since it does not exist (Planet krypton was disintegrated/Obliterated)
he is not affected w/ any Kryptonite at all but is still weak to any RedSun.. There is just so many S shields running around its hard to know each one's weakness...

Post-Pre-Crisis Superman ( 🤪 ) doesn't = the zany ACTUAL Pre-Crisis Superman days of before 1985. 😉 They can say it, but he wasn't NEARLY as looney.

Originally posted by batdude123
Post-Pre-Crisis Superman ( 🤪 ) doesn't = the zany ACTUAL Pre-Crisis Superman days of before 1985. 😉 They can say it, but he wasn't NEARLY as looney.

The main point is Morg and SS are mroe then powerful enough to kill him. And they can move past the speed of light and travel in time. so he's not going to speedblitz them.

The heralds win 9/10 I leave 1 open for jobbing and PIS.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Tell me what exactly does punching out of phantom zone mean to you? All it was meant to show is he's strong, and no one's denying that.

If it's a strength thing only then why can't other strong characters do the same thing? How do you explain punching Darkness away?

I asked you a long time ago what you think punching out of the zone is.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Nitpick for low moments? The heralds aren't infallible, but the numerous characters who jobbed to SBP clearly aren't either and can clearly be written with the mental capacity of Forrest Gump.

On that note, SBP should have been knocking more heads off at the strength level he was introduced at. Going by writing he's simply going to knock the heads off less important characters. It's a double edged sword.

Hell, they even made up the red sunlight weakness for him on the spot. In his original showings he never had that weakness at all.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
My question was in regards to this thread, I was even so kind as to bump it for you.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t422469.html

Prime 10/10

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If it's a strength thing only then why can't other strong characters do the same thing? How do you explain punching Darkness away?

I asked you a long time ago what you think punching out of the zone is.

On that note, SBP should have been knocking more heads off at the strength level he was introduced at. Going by writing he's simply going to knock the heads off less important characters. It's a double edged sword.

Hell, they even made up the red sunlight weakness for him on the spot. In his original showings he never had that weakness at all.

Prime 10/10

P.S. Why didn't you answer Lucid Lui when he (I'm assuming) asked you then?

Going by forum rules that exclude PIS showings, SBP has no major weaknesses then, no weakness to k-nite, no weakness to red sunlight, no weakness to magic; and all the while he is at pc level stats and powers.

The one showing where he was weak to red sunlight was pis as in all his previous showings he has been immune to it.

Its like saying the showing in which SS was brought to his knees by a thunderbolt from Storm isnt pis.

SBP has superior strength and speed to any of the heralds, SBP is not in the "herald" level, he is past it.